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American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

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Catholic America
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Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:37 pm

"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"

Look at me im inciting people to go riot.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:38 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I would wonder why it even needs to be asked? Intimidation could be done in soft ways.

Uni is an experience. It’s not programming as the republicans declare. Hell I once had a raging Marxist for an economics professor. The guy would debate you to no end. And yet? When it came to the grades he judged the work rather then the ideology behind it.


The bill makes a survey asking if people feel comfortable expressing their political beliefs.

Which I think can backfire if Left leaning people feel like they can’t express themselves then maybe a victory for Liberals etc can be found in this.

You think Leftist, Democrats and Real Leftists as Therm calls them, think they can't express themselves, many Conservative Republican, Right Wingers, think they can't express themselves, :) :rofl: lol.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:38 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Curses.

You know if Alabama was independent it could pull a regime change on an independent Florida…


Not to worry. I think the Floridians have better reading comprehension skills. :p


*Regime changes your state*

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:39 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The bill makes a survey asking if people feel comfortable expressing their political beliefs.

Which I think can backfire if Left leaning people feel like they can’t express themselves then maybe a victory for Liberals etc can be found in this.

You think Leftist, Democrats and Real Leftists as Therm calls them, think they can't express themselves, many Conservative Republican, Right Wingers, think they can't express themselves, :) :rofl: lol.


I don’t see the joke.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:42 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:You think Leftist, Democrats and Real Leftists as Therm calls them, think they can't express themselves, many Conservative Republican, Right Wingers, think they can't express themselves, :) :rofl: lol.


I don’t see the joke.

What do I always say about Politics?
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I don’t see the joke.

What do I always say about Politics?


It’s the same both ways. Plus laughing emojis and the same sentences.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Triple Posted.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:44 pm

-snip- My internet lagged.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I don’t see the joke.

What do I always say about Politics?


What you always say is you have your own reality and own set of facts. You do not and quite frankly never will understand the difference between fact and opinion and anything that disagrees with your narrative you call it an opinion.

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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:45 pm

Senkaku wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/colorado-river-drought-california-arizona-00044121

Feds are going to enforce emergency cuts to keep Hoover & Glen Canyon's generating capability online; Colorado River states now have less than sixty days to sort out new allocations amongst themselves. I think this might've gotten missed when it got announced, but looks like growing alfalfa and rice in the desert may become a thing of the past pretty soon.


Alfalfa and rice in the desert? Really? How much are we talking about here?
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:48 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:What do I always say about Politics?


It’s the same both ways. Plus laughing emojis and the same sentences.

In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way. All the complaints Leftists and Leftist Democrats have about Republican, Trump Supporters, Republican Trump Supporters have about Leftists and Leftist Democrats, because It is a Fact.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:50 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
It’s the same both ways. Plus laughing emojis and the same sentences.

In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way. All the complaints Leftists and Leftist Democrats have about Republican, Trump Supporters, Republican Trump Supporters have about Leftists and Leftist Democrats, because It is a Fact.


I know.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:51 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way. All the complaints Leftists and Leftist Democrats have about Republican, Trump Supporters, Republican Trump Supporters have about Leftists and Leftist Democrats, because It is a Fact.


I know.

Then don't put us down for it.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:51 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way. All the complaints Leftists and Leftist Democrats have about Republican, Trump Supporters, Republican Trump Supporters have about Leftists and Leftist Democrats, because It is a Fact.


I know.

you need to stop nodding along or soon enough you will find yourself at a Trump rally thinking "how the bloody hell did i get here"

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San Lumen
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Founded: Jul 02, 2009
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
It’s the same both ways. Plus laughing emojis and the same sentences.

In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way. All the complaints Leftists and Leftist Democrats have about Republican, Trump Supporters, Republican Trump Supporters have about Leftists and Leftist Democrats, because It is a Fact.


Tell me the difference between fact and opinion and give an example of each.

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American Legionaries
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Founded: Nov 03, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby American Legionaries » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I know.

you need to stop nodding along or soon enough you will find yourself at a Trump rally thinking "how the bloody hell did i get here"


Could be worse, he could end up at a Biden rally thinking "what the bloody hell is this fossil saying?"

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:55 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I know.

you need to stop nodding along or soon enough you will find yourself at a Trump rally thinking "how the bloody hell did i get here"

Ill welcome TJR and all of you to my Pro Trump Rallies anytime, :) :rofl: lol. I invited SL, during the 2020 campaign, and I stated If any of them attack you or give you a hard time, I GMS will defend you from them, as my guest.
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I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:56 pm

"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:57 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:you need to stop nodding along or soon enough you will find yourself at a Trump rally thinking "how the bloody hell did i get here"

Ill welcome TJR and all of you to my Pro Trump Rallies anytime, :) :rofl: lol. I invited SL, during the 2020 campaign, and I stated If any of them attack you or give you a hard time, I GMS will defend you from them, as my guest.


Id never attend a Trump rally.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:59 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:you need to stop nodding along or soon enough you will find yourself at a Trump rally thinking "how the bloody hell did i get here"

Ill welcome TJR and all of you to my Pro Trump Rallies anytime, :) :rofl: lol. I invited SL, during the 2020 campaign, and I stated If any of them attack you or give you a hard time, I GMS will defend you from them, as my guest.

Imagine me making one of those classical disgusted faces.

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Nationalist Northumbria
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Linking to a Wikipedia article is not proof that there was a party switch.


Just as how socialism is not when the government does stuff, conservatism is not when the government doesn't do stuff.

Ok, so A. You didn't actually read my source, B. That's not what we were talking about to begin with and IDK where you pulled that from, and C. Wanting the government not to do shit is a staple of American Conservatism.

I did read your source. 'Government does stuff' is your source's entire argument. Did you read your source? This is exactly the sort of mindset which leads to Democrats venerating Alexander Hamilton (with a musical!), which I guess actually does make sense for some of them but the idea he was a progressive because he supported powerful government is very LOL.
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Ill welcome TJR and all of you to my Pro Trump Rallies anytime, :) :rofl: lol. I invited SL, during the 2020 campaign, and I stated If any of them attack you or give you a hard time, I GMS will defend you from them, as my guest.


Id never attend a Trump rally.

and Id never attend a Biden Rally or other leftist Democrat Rally, :) :rofl: lol.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:01 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Abolishing all federal welfare isn’t good. I suggest a balance between federal welfare and private charities religious organizations and communities. With Roe gone and abortion being banned now more than ever is the time to overhaul our welfare and legal systems.

One more thing with private charities is that they are free to withhold generosity from people they don't like.

Not to mention it limits it to things rich people want.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:02 pm

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/06/11091939 ... t-compromi

The first Gen Z candidates are running for Congress — and running against compromise

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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:03 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Remember my Conservative, Republican, GMS Political Manifesto, all religious and non profit organizations should provide government services, not the government.


Why?

Poor people might influence priorities otherwise. If you leave it to the government it's hard to put moral conditions on aid.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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