American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

[The Jamesian Republic]

We’ve seen evidence of at least one.

Do you even know what psychosis is?

Yes. I’ve seen it the last president.

[The Black Forrest]

You mean the wheel grab video? I couldn’t make out what was going on inside the vehicle. Not saying he didn’t; just wasn’t obvious to me.

Not that.

From November 7 2020- The Present

Oh yea when he was grasping at anything for a reason why he didn’t lose…..

[The Jamesian Republic]

Not that.

From November 7 2020- The Present

Oh yea when he was grasping at anything for a reason why he didn’t loose…..

Yes.

[Zurkerx]

War Crimes no but other charges perhaps. Of course, those charges would have to stick (unless the GOP turned the country into what Russia does) but yes, the new norm would then be Presidents being charged.

And we'll see. I am cautiously pessimistic myself though the most likely would be Georgia: she seems determined to go after the former President.

War crimes is a possibility that many republicans are warming up to. A lot are blaming bush and co for all the current problems so i wouldn’t be surprised if a new R president did exactly that

Hmm, tough to say considering people like Trump I believe did so as well. But if it does keep the President and other politicians straight, I'll take that.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

I have stated many times, I support and many of us support Trump DeSantis 2024 and Ron DeSantis 2028. We have an awesome Republican Governor of Florida.

Who wants the State Board of Education to survey people on their political beliefs. Which is kind of weird. I know Gallup Pew and Ipsos does it but when it’s the government something about doesn’t sit right.

Here is an article debunking this leftist Democrat lie.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... ts-n589231

[San Lumen]

Then just drop all the investigations and declare a president as above the law even after leaving office.

If it was up to me Trump would have been indicted already.

Aye, but you are going after the King - and unfortunately, that requires a higher burden of proof, which yes, it has been met but you and I wouldn't be on the jury: your average jurist might be a different story. It's going to be exceptionally difficult to find an impartial jury given almost 160 million Americans voted in 2020 and opinions on Trump are well-defined.

You also have to consider the extra steps of vetting and protection: Trump supporters are bound to intimidate and attack those on the jury, as well as the judge and prosecutors.

Of course, none of that should deter Garland but if you're going after the King, you need to make sure your case is air tight, and criminal referrals by the committee may make Garland even less likely to touch it though it would increase pressure on him.

It already is air tight. What more evidence is needed? Indict him already.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Who wants the State Board of Education to survey people on their political beliefs. Which is kind of weird. I know Gallup Pew and Ipsos does it but when it’s the government something about doesn’t sit right.

Here is an article debunking this leftist Democrat lie.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... ts-n589231

Never mind then.

Even Politifact Said So: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ies-surve/

[American Legionaries]

Aye, but you are going after the King - and unfortunately, that requires a higher burden of proof, which yes, it has been met but you and I wouldn't be on the jury: your average jurist might be a different story. It's going to be exceptionally difficult to find an impartial jury given almost 160 million Americans voted in 2020 and opinions on Trump are well-defined.

You also have to consider the extra steps of vetting and protection: Trump supporters are bound to intimidate and attack those on the jury, as well as the judge and prosecutors.

Of course, none of that should deter Garland but if you're going after the King, you need to make sure your case is air tight, and criminal referrals by the committee may make Garland even less likely to touch it though it would increase pressure on him.

It already is air tight. What more evidence is needed? Indict him already.

You really think twelve randomly selected Americans would unanimously vote against Donald Trump?

[Thermodolia]

No they won’t because the people who elect them want them to be a proverbial wrench in the works. They aren’t going to be irrelevant because that’s what their voters want

I think they’d only need to lose two seats to become irrelevant in the Senate.

What makes you think they’d lose those? They clearly didn’t lose them in the last election and that was after the walk out.

[San Lumen]

I think they’d only need to lose two seats to become irrelevant in the Senate.

What makes you think they’d lose those? They clearly didn’t lose them in the last election and that was after the walk out.

The entire senate is not up in any election.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Here is an article debunking this leftist Democrat lie.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... ts-n589231

Never mind then.

Well, if you guys are going to dismiss sources that think differently than you guys, no wonder, proving my point, no matter what we say, post and link from you guys dismiss it all anyway, on all issues.

[Thermodolia]

Aye, but you are going after the King - and unfortunately, that requires a higher burden of proof, which yes, it has been met but you and I wouldn't be on the jury: your average jurist might be a different story. It's going to be exceptionally difficult to find an impartial jury given almost 160 million Americans voted in 2020 and opinions on Trump are well-defined.

You also have to consider the extra steps of vetting and protection: Trump supporters are bound to intimidate and attack those on the jury, as well as the judge and prosecutors.

Of course, none of that should deter Garland but if you're going after the King, you need to make sure your case is air tight, and criminal referrals by the committee may make Garland even less likely to touch it though it would increase pressure on him.

It already is air tight. What more evidence is needed? Indict him already.

It’s not anywhere close to air tight. There’s a lot of holes in the case that could cause problems

[The Jamesian Republic]

Never mind then.

Well, if you guys are going to dismiss sources that think differently than you guys, no wonder, proving my point, no matter what we say, post and link from you guys dismiss on all issues.

I edited my post even Politifact backs it up.

[San Lumen]

It already is air tight. What more evidence is needed? Indict him already.

It’s not anywhere close to air tight. There’s a lot of holes in the case that could cause problems

Like what?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

It already is air tight. What more evidence is needed? Indict him already.

It’s not anywhere close to air tight. There’s a lot of holes in the case that could cause problems

Thank You Therm.

[Thermodolia]

What makes you think they’d lose those? They clearly didn’t lose them in the last election and that was after the walk out.

The entire senate is not up in any election.

The number of senators didn’t change, in fact in 2020 the vote share of the democrats went down by 8% while republicans went up by 6%.

On top of that the democrats lost one seat in the house while also losing 2% of the vote to the republicans gain of 4%.

Clearly the walkouts didn’t have the effect you claim they’d have and have actually made the republicans more popular not less

[The Black Forrest]

Here is an article debunking this leftist Democrat lie.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... ts-n589231

Never mind then.

Even Politifact Said So: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ies-surve/

I would wonder why it even needs to be asked? Intimidation could be done in soft ways.

Uni is an experience. It’s not programming as the republicans declare. Hell I once had a raging Marxist for an economics professor. The guy would debate you to no end. And yet? When it came to the grades he judged the work rather then the ideology behind it.

[The Jamesian Republic]

The entire senate is not up in any election.

The number of senators didn’t change, in fact in 2020 the vote share of the democrats went down by 8% while republicans went up by 6%.

On top of that the democrats lost one seat in the house while also losing 2% of the vote to the republicans gain of 4%.

Clearly the walkouts didn’t have the effect you claim they’d have and have actually made the republicans more popular not less

You can make a religion out of this. No don’t.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Never mind then.

Even Politifact Said So: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ies-surve/

I would wonder why it even needs to be asked? Intimidation could be done in soft ways.

Uni is an experience. It’s not programming as the republicans declare. Hell I once had a raging Marxist for an economics professor. The guy would debate you to no end. And yet? When it came to the grades he judged the work rather then the ideology behind it.

The bill makes a survey asking if people feel comfortable expressing their political beliefs.

Which I think can backfire if Left leaning people feel like they can’t express themselves then maybe a victory for Liberals etc can be found in this.

[San Lumen]

The entire senate is not up in any election.

The number of senators didn’t change, in fact in 2020 the vote share of the democrats went down by 8% while republicans went up by 6%.

On top of that the democrats lost one seat in the house while also losing 2% of the vote to the republicans gain of 4%.

Clearly the walkouts didn’t have the effect you claim they’d have and have actually made the republicans more popular not less

Why don’t they just run on if elected we will not show up to the capitol?

[Thermodolia]

It’s not anywhere close to air tight. There’s a lot of holes in the case that could cause problems

Like what?

Testimony of certain individuals like the one about Trump grabbing a wheel. Conflicting testimonies and also there’s the fact that even if he was charged I’d say his likely hood of getting convicted is under 1%.

The fifth and straight up lying in court (not outright lies but saying I was forced to claim false testimony by congress) will be used

[Thermodolia]

The number of senators didn’t change, in fact in 2020 the vote share of the democrats went down by 8% while republicans went up by 6%.

On top of that the democrats lost one seat in the house while also losing 2% of the vote to the republicans gain of 4%.

Clearly the walkouts didn’t have the effect you claim they’d have and have actually made the republicans more popular not less

Why don’t they just run on if elected we will not show up to the capitol?

They literally have. Lol.

Why do you think I said the republicans voters do give a flying fuck if they don’t show up

[San Lumen]

Like what?

Testimony of certain individuals like the one about Trump grabbing a wheel. Conflicting testimonies and also there’s the fact that even if he was charged I’d say his likely hood of getting convicted is under 1%.

The fifth and straight up lying in court (not outright lies but saying I was forced to claim false testimony by congress) will be used

Because there are still to many who worship him like a cult leader.

[Thomasi]

The United States is headed to an "uncivil" war, a cold war where people will openly call for the end of the Union. Not just on forums like this but actually on TV brodcast from both sides. This country will not be 50 states strong by 2030 I bet.

[American Legionaries]

The number of senators didn’t change, in fact in 2020 the vote share of the democrats went down by 8% while republicans went up by 6%.

On top of that the democrats lost one seat in the house while also losing 2% of the vote to the republicans gain of 4%.

Clearly the walkouts didn’t have the effect you claim they’d have and have actually made the republicans more popular not less

Why don’t they just run on if elected we will not show up to the capitol?

That'd be pretty damn awesome tbh.