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American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

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Inflation
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Eahland
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Posts: 4331
Founded: Apr 18, 2006
Libertarian Police State

Postby Eahland » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:23 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:None can escape the immortal science.


The Power of Christ compels you!

Your primitive superstitions won't save you from godless communism.
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Vassenor
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Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:24 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, people being equal is oppressive and evil.

Regardless of what communism is supposed to be on paper... the eastern bloc was indeed oppressive and evil.


And they specifically called the ideology (ie what it is on paper) oppressive and evil.
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Forsher
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Founded: Jan 30, 2012
New York Times Democracy

Postby Forsher » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:26 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Forsher wrote:
If you've got the commie gene, I'm afraid you don't have a choice.


That’s not real.


Firstly, that was a joke.

Secondly, if we're being serious, it's probably not a gene, yes, but whether you are or aren't a communist (or any ideology) is probably epigenetic.
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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:27 am

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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:30 am

Forsher wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
That’s not real.


Firstly, that was a joke.

Secondly, if we're being serious, it's probably not a gene, yes, but whether you are or aren't a communist (or any ideology) is probably epigenetic.


Okay
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Rusozak
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6978
Founded: Jun 14, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rusozak » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:30 am

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Catholic America
Diplomat
 
Posts: 731
Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:31 am

Karl Marx wasnt real
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Catholic America
Diplomat
 
Posts: 731
Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:32 am

Rusozak wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:why the fuck is oil so low while gas is so high


Price gouging.

Putin, Biden, and exxon
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Rusozak
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Founded: Jun 14, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rusozak » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:34 am

Catholic America wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Price gouging.

Putin, Biden, and exxon


If you believe the oil industry's PR The Republican Party.
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Catholic America
Diplomat
 
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Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:36 am

Rusozak wrote:
Catholic America wrote:Putin, Biden, and exxon


If you believe the oil industry's PR The Republican Party.

No its the oil industrys fault. They blame putin for the gas and then whore for a new federally funded refinery because subsidizing a oil refinery will solve everything (being sarcastic). And believe it or not the republicans are starting to turn on big industry.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:37 am

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Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 68113
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:45 am

Catholic America wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
If you believe the oil industry's PR The Republican Party.

No its the oil industrys fault. They blame putin for the gas and then whore for a new federally funded refinery because subsidizing a oil refinery will solve everything (being sarcastic). And believe it or not the republicans are starting to turn on big industry.


OK, so how is Biden personally making gas prices so high then?
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Ethel mermania
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Posts: 129570
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:46 am


Takes a couple weeks for the price to catch up. Here gas is 30 cents a gallon down from its peak
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Catholic America
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Posts: 731
Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
Catholic America wrote:No its the oil industrys fault. They blame putin for the gas and then whore for a new federally funded refinery because subsidizing a oil refinery will solve everything (being sarcastic). And believe it or not the republicans are starting to turn on big industry.


OK, so how is Biden personally making gas prices so high then?

lets see. Biden for sure, but putin aint helping and the gas companies, are contributing by refusing to refine oil and Joe biden is making it worse by causing inflation and making it harder for the companies to drill and refine.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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HISPIDA
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8640
Founded: Jun 21, 2021
Anarchy

Postby HISPIDA » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:47 am

Catholic America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, so how is Biden personally making gas prices so high then?

lets see. Biden for sure, but putin aint helping and the gas companies, are contributing by refusing to refine oil and Joe biden is making it worse by causing inflation and making it harder for the companies to drill and refine.

fun fact about that actually: the keystone pipeline expansion that was stopped by biden would probably have raised gas prices even more
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Vassenor
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Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:55 am

Catholic America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, so how is Biden personally making gas prices so high then?

lets see. Biden for sure, but putin aint helping and the gas companies, are contributing by refusing to refine oil and Joe biden is making it worse by causing inflation and making it harder for the companies to drill and refine.


Causing inflation how? What is he personally doing?
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Ifreann
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Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:01 am

Vassenor wrote:
Catholic America wrote:lets see. Biden for sure, but putin aint helping and the gas companies, are contributing by refusing to refine oil and Joe biden is making it worse by causing inflation and making it harder for the companies to drill and refine.


Causing inflation how? What is he personally doing?

Using a big pump that's attached to the economy.
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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Causing inflation how? What is he personally doing?

Using a big pump that's attached to the economy.

No he pressed the make inflation button and the high gas prices button obviously
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Catholic America
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Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:41 am

Vassenor wrote:
Catholic America wrote:lets see. Biden for sure, but putin aint helping and the gas companies, are contributing by refusing to refine oil and Joe biden is making it worse by causing inflation and making it harder for the companies to drill and refine.


Causing inflation how? What is he personally doing?

Hows about dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy through the covid stimulus. I have said this to you before.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:43 am

Catholic America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Causing inflation how? What is he personally doing?

Hows about dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy through the covid stimulus. I have said this to you before.

Dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy is what you do when it's dying.
The Centre Party of Germany didn't in 1930. They tried to be all "fiscally conservative" and shit. They were replaced by people who did put money into the economy.
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Catholic America
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Founded: Jun 22, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:47 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Catholic America wrote:Hows about dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy through the covid stimulus. I have said this to you before.

Dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy is what you do when it's dying.
The Centre Party of Germany didn't in 1930. They tried to be all "fiscally conservative" and shit. They were replaced by people who did put money into the economy.

and look how that went for the germans. Literally lead to hitler
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Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:48 am

Catholic America wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Dumping a shit ton of cash into the economy is what you do when it's dying.
The Centre Party of Germany didn't in 1930. They tried to be all "fiscally conservative" and shit. They were replaced by people who did put money into the economy.

and look how that went for the germans. Literally lead to hitler

Yes because the Centre Party tried to be "fiscally conservative" in a volatile societal situation that had a massive economic crisis on top of it.
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Nationalist Northumbria
Senator
 
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Founded: Apr 27, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:55 am

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Provide proof that there was a party switch.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

read this, for a start
this was when the republicans became the party of the south and the democrats of the north.

Linking to a Wikipedia article is not proof that there was a party switch.

New haven america wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Provide proof that there was a party switch.

NP.

https://www.livescience.com/34241-democ ... forms.html

Anything else?

Just as how socialism is not when the government does stuff, conservatism is not when the government doesn't do stuff.
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New haven america
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Founded: Oct 08, 2012
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:09 am

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

read this, for a start
this was when the republicans became the party of the south and the democrats of the north.

Linking to a Wikipedia article is not proof that there was a party switch.


Just as how socialism is not when the government does stuff, conservatism is not when the government doesn't do stuff.

Ok, so A. You didn't actually read my source, B. That's not what we were talking about to begin with and IDK where you pulled that from, and C. Wanting the government not to do shit is a staple of American Conservatism.
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