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Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

San Lumen wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

You are leaving out what happened four years prior. Tilden was probably the winner of that election.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump is on the cusp of running for President again. I'd have to say I approve. I'm all in for him getting back into office. Unless DeSantis prevails in the power struggle for control of the party. He's a rising star, but it remains to be seen- is he bright enough to vanquish Trump and become the new God Emperor to rally behind?

This January 6th stuff is just a nonsense sideshow compared to what matters, which is throwing out Biden and all of his people and making them just a bad memory. And to turn this US economy around and defeat China.

Wayneactia wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Comparing the Democrats from 1880, is like comparing the GOP to Lincoln who was a Republican and would be a Democrat in this day and age. Hell I'm not sure how LBJ managed to convince so many people he was a Democrat. I wouldn't even consider Truman to be a Democrat if we are going by todays standards.....

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Celritannia wrote:

Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump is on the cusp of running for President again. I'd have to say I approve. I'm all in for him getting back into office. Unless DeSantis prevails in the power struggle for control of the party. He's a rising star, but it remains to be seen- is he bright enough to vanquish Trump and become the new God Emperor to rally behind?

This January 6th stuff is just a nonsense sideshow compared to what matters, which is throwing out Biden and all of his people and making them just a bad memory. And to turn this US economy around and defeat China.

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Catholic America wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

Catholic America wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

Celritannia wrote:

Catholic America wrote:Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

I mean, it's also up to Congress to see to the economy.
And let's not forget the embargo on Russia due to its war with Ukraine causes prices for oil and foodstuffs to go up.

Catholic America wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
I mean, it's also up to Congress to see to the economy.
And let's not forget the embargo on Russia due to its war with Ukraine causes prices for oil and foodstuffs to go up.

Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Celritannia wrote:

Catholic America wrote:Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Blame Putin.

Catholic America wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Did you just reach back 140 years for a whataboutism?

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Did you just reach back 140 years for a whataboutism?

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win) [emphasis mine]

The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi- faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome ofthe 2016 presidential election.

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win) [emphasis mine]

the (republican-led) Senate Committee report on this topic has this to say (volume 5, part I):

The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi- faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome ofthe 2016 presidential election.

American Legionaries wrote:

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
the (republican-led) Senate Committee report on this topic has this to say (volume 5, part I):

It's Russia, this isn't news. It also isn't fraud, or hacking of voting machines.

Celritannia wrote:

Catholic America wrote:Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Blame Putin.

Cannot think of a name wrote:

American Legionaries wrote:
It's Russia, this isn't news. It also isn't fraud, or hacking of voting machines.

Yeah, but you lot are the only ones on about that pretending it's what the Democrats are upset about.

American Legionaries wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Yeah, but you lot are the only ones on about that pretending it's what the Democrats are upset about.

Frankly I pay very little attention to what Democrats are upset about.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Vassenor wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Who actually thinks Russia hacked the voting machines? It's a known fact that US voting machines are hilariously insecure but does anyone actually think Russia tampered with them?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Who actually thinks Russia hacked the voting machines? It's a known fact that US voting machines are hilariously insecure but does anyone actually think Russia tampered with them?

Yes, a great many liberal sorts made those claims back in 2016 and early 2017. I'm not sure if anyone still does today, but it wasn't some insane outlandish idea.