American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

[San Lumen]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

You are leaving out what happened four years prior. Tilden was probably the winner of that election.

[Catholic America]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

You are leaving out what happened four years prior. Tilden was probably the winner of that election.

Who knows? No evidence exists anymore.

[WayNeacTia]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Comparing the Democrats from 1880, is like comparing the GOP to Lincoln who was a Republican and would be a Democrat in this day and age. Hell I'm not sure how LBJ managed to convince so many people he was a Democrat. I wouldn't even consider Truman to be a Democrat if we are going by todays standards.....

[Celritannia]

Donald Trump is on the cusp of running for President again. I'd have to say I approve. I'm all in for him getting back into office. Unless DeSantis prevails in the power struggle for control of the party. He's a rising star, but it remains to be seen- is he bright enough to vanquish Trump and become the new God Emperor to rally behind?

This January 6th stuff is just a nonsense sideshow compared to what matters, which is throwing out Biden and all of his people and making them just a bad memory. And to turn this US economy around and defeat China.

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

[Celritannia]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Comparing the Democrats from 1880, is like comparing the GOP to Lincoln who was a Republican and would be a Democrat in this day and age. Hell I'm not sure how LBJ managed to convince so many people he was a Democrat. I wouldn't even consider Truman to be a Democrat if we are going by todays standards.....

Truman would have been labelled a socialist by now.

[Kannap]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

In 1880, there were only 38 states and Wabash, Indiana became the first electrically lit city in the world; France annexed Tahiti; and John Venn created the Venn Diagram. Lots to think about, plenty to consider. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

[Catholic America]

Donald Trump is on the cusp of running for President again. I'd have to say I approve. I'm all in for him getting back into office. Unless DeSantis prevails in the power struggle for control of the party. He's a rising star, but it remains to be seen- is he bright enough to vanquish Trump and become the new God Emperor to rally behind?

This January 6th stuff is just a nonsense sideshow compared to what matters, which is throwing out Biden and all of his people and making them just a bad memory. And to turn this US economy around and defeat China.

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

[Celritannia]

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

I mean, it's also up to Congress to see to the economy.
And let's not forget the embargo on Russia due to its war with Ukraine causes prices for oil and foodstuffs to go up.

[Diarcesia]

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

No

[Catholic America]

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

I mean, it's also up to Congress to see to the economy.
And let's not forget the embargo on Russia due to its war with Ukraine causes prices for oil and foodstuffs to go up.

Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

[Celritannia]

I mean, it's also up to Congress to see to the economy.
And let's not forget the embargo on Russia due to its war with Ukraine causes prices for oil and foodstuffs to go up.

Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Blame Putin.

[Catholic America]

Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Blame Putin.

Putin made it worse, but its just pouring gas on the already raging fire. The titanic was the waters fault. Same logic.

[WayNeacTia]

Trump made the economy worse, and he has a bank account in China.
He's a coward and a snowflake, all talk no action. He only says what will keep him popular.

Yeah but if Joe Biden dumbs a fuck ton of cash into the economy and causes a recession he is a genius.

Genius and Joe Biden have never been in the same sentence before. I am amazed. Joe Biden was the highest of the lowest bars and that's it. People were so desperate to get rid of Trump that they would have voted for Bernie had he won the nomination.

[Cannot think of a name]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Did you just reach back 140 years for a whataboutism?

[Untecna]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Did you just reach back 140 years for a whataboutism?

That is a new record. I think.

[Catholic America]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Did you just reach back 140 years for a whataboutism?

OH SHIT

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win) [emphasis mine]

the (republican-led) Senate Committee report on this topic has this to say (volume 5, part I):

The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi- faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome ofthe 2016 presidential election.

[American Legionaries]

The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win) [emphasis mine]

the (republican-led) Senate Committee report on this topic has this to say (volume 5, part I):

The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi- faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome ofthe 2016 presidential election.

It's Russia, this isn't news. It also isn't fraud, or hacking of voting machines.

[Cannot think of a name]

the (republican-led) Senate Committee report on this topic has this to say (volume 5, part I):

It's Russia, this isn't news. It also isn't fraud, or hacking of voting machines.

Yeah, but you lot are the only ones on about that pretending it's what the Democrats are upset about.

[The Black Forrest]

Well I can blame nancy and chuck too

Blame Putin.

I blame Canada.

[American Legionaries]

It's Russia, this isn't news. It also isn't fraud, or hacking of voting machines.

Yeah, but you lot are the only ones on about that pretending it's what the Democrats are upset about.

Frankly I pay very little attention to what Democrats are upset about.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah, but you lot are the only ones on about that pretending it's what the Democrats are upset about.

Frankly I pay very little attention to what Democrats are upset about.

Mm-hm...

[Vassenor]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Who actually thinks Russia hacked the voting machines? It's a known fact that US voting machines are hilariously insecure but does anyone actually think Russia tampered with them?

[Washington Resistance Army]

A lot of Democrats criticise the Republicans for talking about fraud. Have they ever read the 1880 Democratic platform? The Democrats are no stranger to baseless accusations of fraud (of course, there is more recent proof of this: like the fact almost half of Democrats thought Russia hacked the voting machines in 2016 to make Trump win). Of course, this could go the other way. Constantly yapping on about FRAUD!, the Democrats lost the 1880 election even with a strong candidate. Perhaps Republicans should remember this.

Who actually thinks Russia hacked the voting machines? It's a known fact that US voting machines are hilariously insecure but does anyone actually think Russia tampered with them?

Yes, a great many liberal sorts made those claims back in 2016 and early 2017. I'm not sure if anyone still does today, but it wasn't some insane outlandish idea.

[Neutraligon]

Who actually thinks Russia hacked the voting machines? It's a known fact that US voting machines are hilariously insecure but does anyone actually think Russia tampered with them?

Yes, a great many liberal sorts made those claims back in 2016 and early 2017. I'm not sure if anyone still does today, but it wasn't some insane outlandish idea.

From what I recall the claim was interference, which does not necessarily mean hacking....