American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

[Umeria]

That's right, FDR, who advocated for a second bill of rights "for all, regardless of station or race or creed" was totally running on racism.

Oh, are you saying Democrats like James Eastland weren't racists?

That is very clearly not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the Democratic party, as a whole, was not running on racism during the time period you specified. Responding by pointing to individual politicians is like if I said the current Democratic party is pro-life because Joe Manchin is pro-life.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

No, it's true, and you're unknowingly saying so yourself. 1936 was before the party switch.

Not really, no. The party switch was a 50-year work-in-progress and began in the 1910s when the Democrats co-opted the policies of the Populists, the Progressives, and the growing Socialist movement. As the decades wore on, the northern unions abandoned outright racism and began to favour integration by the 1930s. The 1960s was just the final move in a half-century long transition.

The party switch began in the 1910s... when Woodrow Wilson, a progressive Democrat, but also a racist (even 'by the standards of his time') and a leading Lost Causer, was president? Yeah, OK.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Oh, are you saying Democrats like James Eastland weren't racists?

That is very clearly not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the Democratic party, as a whole, was not running on racism during the time period you specified. Responding by pointing to individual politicians is like if I said the current Democratic party is pro-life because Joe Manchin is pro-life.

Except the comparison would be to Democrats who weren't racists. Even Truman was privately against anti-lynching legislation.

[Umeria]

That is very clearly not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the Democratic party, as a whole, was not running on racism during the time period you specified. Responding by pointing to individual politicians is like if I said the current Democratic party is pro-life because Joe Manchin is pro-life.

Except the comparison would be to Democrats who weren't racists. Even Truman was privately against anti-lynching legislation.

Who gives a shit what their private views are? We're talking about what they campaigned on.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

That's some desperate bullshit. Mostly to muddy up the waters when discussing Trump's state of mind because that dude is nucking futs.

No but you see Trump is the greatest genius in history. He can identify a picture of a giraffe after all.

Well, you got the first part right.

[Big Bad Blue]

Six killed in mass shooting at Chicago-area Independence Day parade

Happy 4th of July. Happy 2nd Amendment.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Except the comparison would be to Democrats who weren't racists. Even Truman was privately against anti-lynching legislation.

Who gives a shit what their private views are? We're talking about what they campaigned on.

Like Adlai Stevenson, who campaigned alongside his VP candidate arch-segregationist John Sparkman?

[Torisakia]

Six killed in mass shooting at Chicago-area Independence Day parade

Happy 4th of July. Happy 2nd Amendment.

Still waiting for the country’s dissolution. Any day now…please…

[Salus Maior]

Six killed in mass shooting at Chicago-area Independence Day parade

Happy 4th of July. Happy 2nd Amendment.

Still waiting for the country’s dissolution. Any day now…please…

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

[Torisakia]

Still waiting for the country’s dissolution. Any day now…please…

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

And people are already killing each other enough as it is.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Hello this is my first post on this thread. Decided to check out this forum thing. I'm not American. I'm guessing this thread is mostly about Dem/GOP debates and social/religious related topics?

Welcome to NS, but I see you have a population of 2.163 billion and very few posts. At least 95 % of the Posters on this thread and most threads, are anti Republicans, anti Trump. I account for at least 95 % of the Pro Republicans, Pro Trump Posts and Posters on this thread and most threads. I am a native Cuban and American citizen. Your NS and Discord Friend and all Persons NS and Discord Friend. GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto.

[Umeria]

Who gives a shit what their private views are? We're talking about what they campaigned on.

Like Adlai Stevenson, who campaigned alongside his VP candidate arch-segregationist John Sparkman?

And here's what he campaigned on

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

lol

[Untecna]

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

And people are already killing each other enough as it is.

"Easy" how?

[American Legionaries]

Still waiting for the country’s dissolution. Any day now…please…

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

In the long run, maybe not.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Like Adlai Stevenson, who campaigned alongside his VP candidate arch-segregationist John Sparkman?

And here's what he campaigned on

I have repeatedly pointed out that Democrats could still be liberals. Just racist ones.

[Torisakia]

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

lol

Laugh now. But the day of reckoning will come.

[Untecna]

lol

Laugh now. But the day of reckoning will come.

-Papa John

[Torisakia]

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

And people are already killing each other enough as it is.

"Easy" how?

Not sure given I’ve never attempted to dissolve a real country before. But all I want is a nonexistent USA.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Despite everything I would rather not have the country balkanize considering Alabama would collapse and easily become a part of the Holy Floridian Empire ruled by Dear Leader Donald Trump and his deputy Ron DeSantis.

[Salus Maior]

Because that wouldn't just kill more people, clearly.

Then just dissolve the country without killing anyone. Easy.

And people are already killing each other enough as it is.

Yeah, that never happens. Also, what happens to all the people dependent on the state to live?

[Torisakia]

Despite everything I would rather not have the country balkanize considering Alabama would collapse and easily become a part of the Holy Floridian Empire ruled by Dear Leader Donald Trump and his deputy Ron DeSantis.

I resent that. Alabama would become its own empire with Nick Saban at the helm. Actually it kinda already is.

[Washington Resistance Army]

lol

Laugh now. But the day of reckoning will come.

Oh I know it will, but the idea that you can just dissolve a country without killing anyone is nonsensical.

[Alcala-Cordel]

No but you see Trump is the greatest genius in history. He can identify a picture of a giraffe after all.

Well, you got the first part right.

implying he can't identify a picture of a giraffe lol

[Untecna]

Well, you got the first part right.

implying he can't identify a picture of a giraffe lol

"Mr. Trump, what animal is this?"

"Well, you see, we're very educated on the animals, very educated; we have the best animal education in the world, the best, we beat China, we beat China easily. We have the best knowledge of animals, best anywhere, the socialist Democrats, they want to take that away, they want to make China the best."