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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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The video where he thrust his genitals at a guy, which he defended as drunk shenanigans.

Oh ya that one.

Ya even if it didn’t make you think he was gay it definitely made you think he was totally immature


Which I actually don't get why that's news. He'd openly said in the past that he was bi, what the hell did people think that meant?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:10 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:A lot of Trump endorsements are losing. Kemp is going to blow Purdue out of the water soon.


Erm..so far, his endorsement record is still pretty good. He was expected to lose his gubernatorial picks since it's been mostly arrogance and vanity that decides who he select, but his Congressional record's still pretty strong. Budd won tonight, Oz still has a good shot at doing so. Next week though....he's going to get shellacked in Georgia AND Alabama.


The big question is does Governor Ivey avoid a runoff.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 9:12 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh ya that one.

Ya even if it didn’t make you think he was gay it definitely made you think he was totally immature


Which I actually don't get why that's news. He'd openly said in the past that he was bi, what the hell did people think that meant?

Wait he did?
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Erm..so far, his endorsement record is still pretty good. He was expected to lose his gubernatorial picks since it's been mostly arrogance and vanity that decides who he select, but his Congressional record's still pretty strong. Budd won tonight, Oz still has a good shot at doing so. Next week though....he's going to get shellacked in Georgia AND Alabama.


The big question is does Governor Ivey avoid a runoff.


The really interesting thing is that if she does go to one, it might not be against Blanchard but Tim James. Either way, she'd win.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Which I actually don't get why that's news. He'd openly said in the past that he was bi, what the hell did people think that meant?

Wait he did?


No, my mistake, I got the news stories mixed up.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:15 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The big question is does Governor Ivey avoid a runoff.


The really interesting thing is that if she does go to one, it might not be against Blanchard but Tim James. Either way, she'd win.


What’s your reasoning?

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
The really interesting thing is that if she does go to one, it might not be against Blanchard but Tim James. Either way, she'd win.


What’s your reasoning?


My reasoning? I've looked at the more recent polls, Blanchard and James are more or less in a dead heat for second with Ivey ranging between 43-53%.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:21 pm

Shrillland wrote:
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What’s your reasoning?


My reasoning? I've looked at the more recent polls, Blanchard and James are more or less in a dead heat for second with Ivey ranging between 43-53%.


I think Ivey wins outright. The Democratic primary will go to runoff.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:25 pm

Oz has taken the lead with a majority of 736 thanks to a huge bundle of votes from Bucks County.
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Postby Corrian » Tue May 17, 2022 9:29 pm

I bet Republican operatives are panicking at the idea of Oz winning. I don't know anything about McCormick but I would assume he's got a better chance than Oz.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:31 pm

Corrian wrote:I bet Republican operatives are panicking at the idea of Oz winning. I don't know anything about McCormick but I would assume he's got a better chance than Oz.


It might be a few days before we know the outcome but I agree Oz would have less of a chance than McCormick.

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Postby Kowani » Tue May 17, 2022 9:32 pm

Shrillland wrote:Oz has taken the lead with a majority of 736 thanks to a huge bundle of votes from Bucks County.

A .006 lead!
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 9:33 pm

Oz and McCormick are definitely going to a runoff
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Tue May 17, 2022 9:34 pm

I love how when a literal far-right great replacement larpy shooter kills 10 people, Tucker Carlson seriously has the nerve to call him apolitical. Sorry, but I haven't seen a centrist or an apolitical person push the far-right great replacement conspiracy so far as to literally start a terrorist attack.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:35 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Oz and McCormick are definitely going to a runoff


There are no runoffs in Pennsylvania.

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Postby Corrian » Tue May 17, 2022 9:35 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Oz and McCormick are definitely going to a runoff

Does PA even have a runoff?
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:36 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Oz and McCormick are definitely going to a runoff


A recount, not a runoff. Pennsylvania doesn't have those. No Northern state except for Iowa does, actually, and Iowa's just means the state convention decides your fate.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:37 pm

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:I love how when a literal far-right great replacement larpy shooter kills 10 people, Tucker Carlson seriously has the nerve to call him apolitical. Sorry, but I haven't seen a centrist or an apolitical person push the far-right great replacement conspiracy so far as to literally start a terrorist attack.


Am I the only one who sees cheap irony in the great replacement theory? My ancestors saw the Great Replacement actually fold out, and it resulted in us hiding in North Carolina for several years.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 9:39 pm

If PA doesn’t have runoffs, this primary is going to be decided by less than >1k
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 9:43 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:If PA doesn’t have runoffs, this primary is going to be decided by less than >1k


A recount seems certain.

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Postby Corrian » Tue May 17, 2022 9:44 pm

Also Mastriano being PA governor candidate is not...great
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 17, 2022 9:44 pm

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:46 pm

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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Tue May 17, 2022 9:46 pm

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 9:50 pm



No, not that one. This one's Chair of the US Civil Rights Commission's Pennsylvania office, he also used to be a major figure in state adminstration. Lee, on the other hand, is a fairly popular Commonwealth Rep.
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