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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:37 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People voting for candidates you don't like isn't fraud.

Stelling the elections through massive Democrat vote fraud is massive Democrat vote fraud.

These are immature mewlings expected from 3 year olds denied a lollipop.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:38 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Stelling the elections through massive Democrat vote fraud is massive Democrat vote fraud.

These are immature mewlings expected from 3 year olds denied a lollipop.

lol, :) :rofl:

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:40 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:These are immature mewlings expected from 3 year olds denied a lollipop.

lol, :) :rofl:

Did you laugh when Fidel impounded your plantation?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:43 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:lol, :) :rofl:

Did you laugh when Fidel impounded your plantation?

No I did not, but that is not related to the subjects of this thread. Post it on the Latin American thread where it belongs, and I will esplain better.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Stelling the elections through massive Democrat vote fraud is massive Democrat vote fraud.


People voting for candidates you don't like isn't stealing the election.


Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:49 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People voting for candidates you don't like isn't stealing the election.


Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)

lol, :) :rofl:
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:49 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People voting for candidates you don't like isn't stealing the election.


Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)


Thank God we have a secret ballot
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:49 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People voting for candidates you don't like isn't stealing the election.


Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)

Ur welcome to move to East Germany and embrace heiling
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:52 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)

Ur welcome to move to East Germany and embrace heiling


He would be more of a fan of Francoist Spain
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:11 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Ur welcome to move to East Germany and embrace heiling


He would be more of a fan of Francoist Spain

Regardless it's the same misconception, that they'll be the boot and not the neck.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:12 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
He would be more of a fan of Francoist Spain

Regardless it's the same misconception, that they'll be the boot and not the neck.


Not really. A.L is right-wing. If he lived in East Germany, he would have disappeared. I would have been a dead man in both countries.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:15 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
People voting for candidates you don't like isn't stealing the election.


Voting for Democrats isn't a crime yet ;)


And why should voting Democrat be a crime?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:30 am

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:31 am


You get the heavy stubber i get the flamer
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:34 am


Sounds like Texas Liberated Texas and Texans.

https://twitter.com/ScholarlySpoon/stat ... 1102015488
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:41 am

Myrensis wrote:


It's hardly surprising. Trump himself wasn't the problem, it's that his election revealed to Republicans that the American electorate is far more stupid and complacent than they had ever dared to dream, and that they wasted years carefully cloaking their policies in euphemisms and trying to do things under the radar, when it would take an Act of God to get the average American voter to actually do anything but shuffle aimlessly along burbling vapidly about American exceptionalism and gas prices.

Trump lost the election because he is a tantrum throwing man-child and it rankled the bobbleheads vague notion that the President of the gReaTesT cOunTrY oN eArtH should be respectable, not because of his overt corruption and power grabbing.

So Republicans will win the midterms, and then double down on dismantling voting and civil rights all over the country, and the response of the voters will be "How could we have known that if we gave them power they would do exactly what they kept loudly screaming they would do if they had power, we stopped paying attention after they promised to lower gas prices! We're the victims here!"

Should also note that the new Texas platform also officially declares homosexuality an 'abnormal lifestyle choice'. But remember, it's just Democratic fearmongering to suggest that Lawrence v Texas and Obergefell are on the GOP's list of 'bad' Supreme Court rulings that also need to be overturned now that Roe v. Wade is finally on the chopping block.

Tbh a lot of this is Texas being well Texas, which is weapons grade stupidity.

Interestingly the Trumps actually got mad at Texas attacking gay conservatives instead of fighting against liberals and anti-gun groups.

But anyway even if Obergefell or Lawrence got overturned it wouldn’t mean automatically no gay marriage or no gay sex. Only 14 states out of the 50 would revert to banning gay marriage and only 9 would revert to banning sodomy, of those 9 only 2 ban same-sex sodomy only the other 7 don’t care if you are gay or straight, the rest of the nation wouldn’t notice a change
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Postby Diuhon » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:47 am

i predict genocide (first of gays, then by rote a number of other outgroups) as an explicit platform of the republican party either of the two election cycles that remain for the united states, should trends not change

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:50 am

Diuhon wrote:i predict genocide (first of gays, then by rote a number of other outgroups) as an explicit platform of the republican party either of the two election cycles that remain for the united states, should trends not change

I doubt it. And even if genocide became a plank gays wouldn’t be the first on the list. Most likely it would be Muslims, followed by trans people, then non whites.

Gays are pretty low on the list of things atm
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Postby Diuhon » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:04 am

gays would be first due to recency bias and the shocking speed with which trumpsters have adopted for themselves the slur that gays are pedophiles grooming kids to be like them and/or to be abused by them, and have furthermore defended the actions of bigoted groups seeking confrontation with gays and pride parades, especially in the aftermath of arrests of members of the patriot front in coeur d'alene

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:25 am

Observing US politics from afar is like watching a stupid kid running into traffic, you try to warn them but they still have a big stupid grin as the bus hits them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:42 am

Diuhon wrote:gays would be first due to recency bias and the shocking speed with which trumpsters have adopted for themselves the slur that gays are pedophiles grooming kids to be like them and/or to be abused by them, and have furthermore defended the actions of bigoted groups seeking confrontation with gays and pride parades, especially in the aftermath of arrests of members of the patriot front in coeur d'alene

You quite literally have no idea about what republicans think about or how conservatives in the US would pick which groups to remove.

Gays aren’t even on the recency bias list, it’s all trans everything now. So unless you mean LGBT and are just using gays as another term for LGBT than maybe.

But in all honesty you really don’t understand US politics at all. The guys in Idaho where Nazis, something that is unfortunately common in that hell hole.

And I haven’t seen trump supporters go after gays being pedos so much as I’ve seen them say trans people are pedos and want to hurt kids or that liberals in general are pedos. So all in all the idea that you think gays would be first on the list of a conservatives groups to remove is laughably funny
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Postby Myrensis » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Diuhon wrote:gays would be first due to recency bias and the shocking speed with which trumpsters have adopted for themselves the slur that gays are pedophiles grooming kids to be like them and/or to be abused by them, and have furthermore defended the actions of bigoted groups seeking confrontation with gays and pride parades, especially in the aftermath of arrests of members of the patriot front in coeur d'alene

You quite literally have no idea about what republicans think about or how conservatives in the US would pick which groups to remove.

Gays aren’t even on the recency bias list, it’s all trans everything now. So unless you mean LGBT and are just using gays as another term for LGBT than maybe.

But in all honesty you really don’t understand US politics at all. The guys in Idaho where Nazis, something that is unfortunately common in that hell hole.

And I haven’t seen trump supporters go after gays being pedos so much as I’ve seen them say trans people are pedos and want to hurt kids or that liberals in general are pedos. So all in all the idea that you think gays would be first on the list of a conservatives groups to remove is laughably funny


Yeah, it's not like Republicans have been banning the acknowledgement of the existence of gays in schools, or calling for new television ratings that will warn parents when a show simply contains any gay characters at all, all with the exact same justification of pRotEctiNg tHe cHiLdrEn from all those LGBTQ+ predators and groomers.

Though, I never thought I'd see someone literally spell out "First They Came..." as an argument for things being okay. "Don't worry, I'm sure they'll settle for just the Muslims, and the trans, and maybe the blacks, surely after all that they'll be too tired to go after the gays!"

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:58 am

Myrensis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You quite literally have no idea about what republicans think about or how conservatives in the US would pick which groups to remove.

Gays aren’t even on the recency bias list, it’s all trans everything now. So unless you mean LGBT and are just using gays as another term for LGBT than maybe.

But in all honesty you really don’t understand US politics at all. The guys in Idaho where Nazis, something that is unfortunately common in that hell hole.

And I haven’t seen trump supporters go after gays being pedos so much as I’ve seen them say trans people are pedos and want to hurt kids or that liberals in general are pedos. So all in all the idea that you think gays would be first on the list of a conservatives groups to remove is laughably funny


Yeah, it's not like Republicans have been banning the acknowledgement of the existence of gays in schools, or calling for new television ratings that will warn parents when a show simply contains any gay characters at all, all with the exact same justification of pRotEctiNg tHe cHiLdrEn from all those LGBTQ+ predators and groomers.

Though, I never thought I'd see someone literally spell out "First They Came..." as an argument for things being okay. "Don't worry, I'm sure they'll settle for just the Muslims, and the trans, and maybe the blacks, surely after all that they'll be too tired to go after the gays!"

I didn’t say they wouldn’t be too tired to go after the gays, I said the gays wouldn’t be first on any list.

Talk to any conservative and it’s Muslims, Liberals, and trans people they hate the most, depending on your conservative they might also hate non whites and gays. But generally Muslims are public enemy number 1 not gays.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Yeah, it's not like Republicans have been banning the acknowledgement of the existence of gays in schools, or calling for new television ratings that will warn parents when a show simply contains any gay characters at all, all with the exact same justification of pRotEctiNg tHe cHiLdrEn from all those LGBTQ+ predators and groomers.

Though, I never thought I'd see someone literally spell out "First They Came..." as an argument for things being okay. "Don't worry, I'm sure they'll settle for just the Muslims, and the trans, and maybe the blacks, surely after all that they'll be too tired to go after the gays!"

I didn’t say they wouldn’t be too tired to go after the gays, I said the gays wouldn’t be first on any list.

Talk to any conservative and it’s Muslims, Liberals, and trans people they hate the most, depending on your conservative they might also hate non whites and gays. But generally Muslims are public enemy number 1 not gays.


Are you sure? Conservatives and Muslims are best friends on platforms like truth social and parler...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:43 am

Diuhon wrote:i predict genocide (first of gays, then by rote a number of other outgroups) as an explicit platform of the republican party either of the two election cycles that remain for the united states, should trends not change

Wait, where you the guy who was flipping out on me because on election night I wouldn't succumb to the whole 'sky is falling' fatalism?

Ah, probably not. I can't even remember the specifics, someone begging me to wake up to the reality that Trump had won a second term. Whoever it is probably isn't here anymore or even remembers. It made me laugh so it stood out.
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