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American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

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Prima Scriptura
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Ex-Nation

Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 7:25 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Adamede wrote:Pretty sure that dude just made a threat to keep on shooting people until America returns to a white supremacist nation.


But remember, the real danger to America is trans kids and liberals being mean on Twitter.


You know very damn well that is not what I believe
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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat May 14, 2022 7:25 pm

Kot Unduk wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
But remember, the real danger to America is trans kids and liberals being mean on Twitter.

And Democratic Socialists exercising their constitutional rights.


What is wrong with Democratic Socialists having constitutional rights?
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Myrensis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Myrensis » Sat May 14, 2022 7:26 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
But remember, the real danger to America is trans kids and liberals being mean on Twitter.


You know very damn well that is not what I believe


It is what the Republican Party believes, or desperately wants everyone else to believe while they wink at the author of that Twitter post.

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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 7:28 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
You know very damn well that is not what I believe


It is what the Republican Party believes, or desperately wants everyone else to believe while they wink at the author of that Twitter post.


And that’s why I’m a defacto registered independent
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 14, 2022 7:28 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
But remember, the real danger to America is trans kids and liberals being mean on Twitter.


You know very damn well that is not what I believe

Yeah, you're more of the kind to believe that the danger to America is trans kids not being tortured.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat May 14, 2022 7:34 pm

Kot Unduk wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
a) why do murders happen?
b) Putin doesn’t see it that way
c) maybe. not intentionally, probably.

Let's agree on 3 things;

People always die in war on both sides, regardless of allegiance.
You can be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Soldiers can commit crimes on BOTH sides.


the solution is to not have wars. also, this isn’t called being in the wrong place at the wrong time, this is called Russia attacking hospitals with missiles.
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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 7:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
You know very damn well that is not what I believe

Yeah, you're more of the kind to believe that the danger to America is trans kids not being tortured.



What?
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Kot Unduk
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kot Unduk » Sat May 14, 2022 7:39 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Kot Unduk wrote:And Democratic Socialists exercising their constitutional rights.


What is wrong with Democratic Socialists having constitutional rights?

Nothing! But that's what most Republicans hint at removing.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 14, 2022 7:45 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yeah, you're more of the kind to believe that the danger to America is trans kids not being tortured.



What?

You're not so far from the far right yourself. You can demand their heads all you want, but at the end of the day your politics and theirs have considerable overlap.
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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 14, 2022 7:47 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

What?

You're not so far from the far right yourself. You can demand their heads all you want, but at the end of the day your politics and theirs have considerable overlap.

Apart form his views on social issues, I don't see how he's close to them. Welfare and a hawkish foreign aren't really some of the things the US far-right is fond of.
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Moscareinas
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Postby Moscareinas » Sat May 14, 2022 7:50 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're not so far from the far right yourself. You can demand their heads all you want, but at the end of the day your politics and theirs have considerable overlap.

Apart form his views on social issues, I don't see how he's close to them. Welfare and a hawkish foreign aren't really some of the things the US far-right is fond of.

hawkishness is convenient political posturing, not really something believed in, at least among the authoritarian right

that being said, i don't see it either
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 14, 2022 7:52 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're not so far from the far right yourself. You can demand their heads all you want, but at the end of the day your politics and theirs have considerable overlap.

Apart form his views on social issues, I don't see how he's close to them. Welfare and a hawkish foreign aren't really some of the things the US far-right is fond of.

Apart from how he agrees with the far right I don't see how he agrees with the far right.
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Prima Scriptura
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Ex-Nation

Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 7:53 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're not so far from the far right yourself. You can demand their heads all you want, but at the end of the day your politics and theirs have considerable overlap.

Apart form his views on social issues, I don't see how he's close to them. Welfare and a hawkish foreign aren't really some of the things the US far-right is fond of.


The fact that I go to a historically African-American church and has found solace in the institutional African-American Christian church kinda disproves that I’m a far-right neo-nazi

Also, the far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous..
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Postby Space Squid » Sat May 14, 2022 7:56 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yeah, you're more of the kind to believe that the danger to America is trans kids not being tortured.



What?

That's a crass way of putting it, but I cannot believe that you are unfamiliar with the gist of what they're saying.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 7:57 pm

Space Squid wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

What?

That's a crass way of putting it, but I cannot believe that you are unfamiliar with the gist of what they're saying.


I get it now. I want clarification. The far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous
30 year old American male living in Minneapolis, MN.
Other than that, I’m not sure what I am.

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American Legionaries
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby American Legionaries » Sat May 14, 2022 8:00 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Space Squid wrote:That's a crass way of putting it, but I cannot believe that you are unfamiliar with the gist of what they're saying.


I get it now. I want clarification. The far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous


As long as you continue to like what they don't like, they're going to attack you with ridiculous hyperbolic nonsense, that's all there is to it.

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Space Squid
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Postby Space Squid » Sat May 14, 2022 8:00 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Apart form his views on social issues, I don't see how he's close to them. Welfare and a hawkish foreign aren't really some of the things the US far-right is fond of.


The fact that I go to a historically African-American church and has found solace in the institutional African-American Christian church kinda disproves that I’m a far-right neo-nazi

Also, the far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous..

Louis Farrakhan is every bit as awful as any Nazi, and he's African-American. This doesn't prove anything, and it's insulting - and kinda racist - that you think it would.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat May 14, 2022 8:03 pm

Kot Unduk wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
What is wrong with Democratic Socialists having constitutional rights?

Nothing! But that's what most Republicans hint at removing.


Bruh, you can't stan Russia and then act like you think abridging rights is bad.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 8:04 pm

Space Squid wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
The fact that I go to a historically African-American church and has found solace in the institutional African-American Christian church kinda disproves that I’m a far-right neo-nazi

Also, the far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous..

Louis Farrakhan is every bit as awful as any Nazi, and he's African-American. This doesn't prove anything, and it's insulting - and kinda racist - that you think it would.


Did you forget I’m mostly indigenous?… The far-right wants to kill me too…
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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 8:07 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I get it now. I want clarification. The far-right hates me because I’m primarily indigenous


As long as you continue to like what they don't like, they're going to attack you with ridiculous hyperbolic nonsense, that's all there is to it.


I mean, MLk was a Baptist preacher. There are numerous examples of devout Christians fighting racism.
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Postby Space Squid » Sat May 14, 2022 8:11 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Louis Farrakhan is every bit as awful as any Nazi, and he's African-American. This doesn't prove anything, and it's insulting - and kinda racist - that you think it would.


Did you forget I’m mostly indigenous?… The far-right wants to kill me too…

Hard to ignore since you bring it up constantly.

So what? Indigenous people are also capable of being awful.
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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat May 14, 2022 8:13 pm

Space Squid wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
Did you forget I’m mostly indigenous?… The far-right wants to kill me too…

Hard to ignore since you bring it up constantly.

So what? Indigenous people are also capable of being awful.


Ah, okay. :roll:
30 year old American male living in Minneapolis, MN.
Other than that, I’m not sure what I am.

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American Legionaries
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat May 14, 2022 8:15 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
As long as you continue to like what they don't like, they're going to attack you with ridiculous hyperbolic nonsense, that's all there is to it.


I mean, MLk was a Baptist preacher. There are numerous examples of devout Christians fighting racism.


It doesn't matter, it's an all or nothing thing. You either agree on EVERY issue, or you're a buck toothed far right ethno-nationalist.

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Moscareinas
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Postby Moscareinas » Sat May 14, 2022 8:18 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I mean, MLk was a Baptist preacher. There are numerous examples of devout Christians fighting racism.


It doesn't matter, it's an all or nothing thing. You either agree on EVERY issue, or you're a buck toothed far right ethno-nationalist.

flavorful with just a dollop of hypocrisy, coming from a member of the party of trump
Moscareinas is an unexpectedly prosperous democratic republic whose territories include 54% of the western Indian Ocean, the IRL BIOT, Comoros, Mayotte, the Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion. Not included: Madagascar.

Moscans are torn about Madagascar.

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Postby Space Squid » Sat May 14, 2022 8:20 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Hard to ignore since you bring it up constantly.

So what? Indigenous people are also capable of being awful.


Ah, okay. :roll:

I will accept your non-answer as a concession that arguing for immunity from criticism based on race is racist as hell.
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