Re: Exploitation of Labour?

[Heloin]

Apart from everything else going on in this wild thread, why the fuck would I want this kidnapper who tried to shoot me with a tranq gun anywhere near me?

I wouldn't want her to sign this stupid deal for work. She'll just be a happy little psychopath before going right back to kidnapping people again. She going to jail, and staying there for a long time.

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

That’s stupid.

[Infected Mushroom]

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

That’s stupid.

There’s a fair bit of renovation, repairs, chores, and upgrades that the house and surrounding properties could use.

[Heloin]

That’s stupid.

There’s a fair bit of renovation, repairs, chores, and upgrades that the house and surrounding properties could use.

Someone who’s primary skill set is breaking and entering is unlikely to be a skilled engineer and builder.

[Infected Mushroom]

There’s a fair bit of renovation, repairs, chores, and upgrades that the house and surrounding properties could use.

Someone who’s primary skill set is breaking and entering is unlikely to be a skilled engineer and builder.

That’s definitely something to consider.

[South Olpen]

Change my decision; force her to revoke the contract and send her back to the clink for life. Or worse....

[Chan Island]

Apart from everything else going on in this wild thread, why the fuck would I want this kidnapper who tried to shoot me with a tranq gun anywhere near me?

I wouldn't want her to sign this stupid deal for work. She'll just be a happy little psychopath before going right back to kidnapping people again. She going to jail, and staying there for a long time.

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

Then I fly to the US and go live with my aunt instead of spending any additional seconds with these callous bastards who think I would accept living with someone who tried to kidnap me.

[Infected Mushroom]

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

Then I fly to the US and go live with my aunt instead of spending any additional seconds with these callous bastards who think I would accept living with someone who tried to kidnap me.

You don't really have that kind of complete autonomy as a minor. You're basically a subject of your parents until adulthood, and even then, they might have undue economic influence.

The parents lord over your property (and they have "delegated" some responsibilities to you which they can literally interfere with and alter for whatever their reason, even revoke) and now they also lord over Anna. By simply giving birth to you and staying within the lines of the law, they hold nearly complete authority over you as a person until you are past that age line set by society. They represent parental authority to the max in the scenario.

[Infected Mushroom]

Change my decision; force her to revoke the contract and send her back to the clink for life. Or worse....

Oh? With what tactics?

[Heloin]

Then I fly to the US and go live with my aunt instead of spending any additional seconds with these callous bastards who think I would accept living with someone who tried to kidnap me.

You don't really have that kind of complete autonomy as a minor. You're basically a subject of your parents until adulthood, and even then, they might have undue economic influence.

The parents lord over your property (and they have "delegated" some responsibilities to you which they can literally interfere with and alter for whatever their reason, even revoke) and now they also lord over Anna. By simply giving birth to you and staying within the lines of the law, they hold nearly complete authority over you as a person until you are past that age line set by society. They represent parental authority to the max in the scenario.

I would simply leave my horrible disgusting parents and this horrible disgusting society because I’m built different.

[Latorik]

Why are they letting a convicted child kidnappers fate to be decided by children.

And why are the options to continue to be around said children she just tried to kidnap instead of forty years in a federal penitentiary

Because she was able to come to a legally enforceable agreement with the authorities. The state in the hypothetical was willing to weigh her crimes against her relatively young age.

Its a serial kidnapper and extortionist

likely also dabbles in human trafficking

[Dogmeat]

Apart from everything else going on in this wild thread, why the fuck would I want this kidnapper who tried to shoot me with a tranq gun anywhere near me?

I wouldn't want her to sign this stupid deal for work. She'll just be a happy little psychopath before going right back to kidnapping people again. She going to jail, and staying there for a long time.

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

Overthrow the state. It's a dumb state.

[Thermodolia]

lol no. There’s a reason kidnapping and extortion are all multi year stints in the pen. A few months hard labor isn’t going to deter anyone.

It might prove to be a traumatic/semi-traumatic incident. She might not want to try again out of fear of another several months long stint.

Prison time may be longer but in many ways, this is worse.

No it’s not worse. I’d much rather do hard labor for a year than to go to prison for a day.

[Thermodolia]

Then I fly to the US and go live with my aunt instead of spending any additional seconds with these callous bastards who think I would accept living with someone who tried to kidnap me.

You don't really have that kind of complete autonomy as a minor. You're basically a subject of your parents until adulthood, and even then, they might have undue economic influence.

The parents lord over your property (and they have "delegated" some responsibilities to you which they can literally interfere with and alter for whatever their reason, even revoke) and now they also lord over Anna. By simply giving birth to you and staying within the lines of the law, they hold nearly complete authority over you as a person until you are past that age line set by society. They represent parental authority to the max in the scenario.

That’s child abuse. These aren’t parents they are child abusers.

[Kannap]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away? The police are literally at your house.

Don't worry, if I murder the lady I'll be able to talk my sentence down to community service. The legal system in this scenario is silly

[Kannap]

>Violent criminal tries to kidnap children, gets sentenced to three months community service working in the same house with the kids.

>Man slaps another man at a gaudy awards ceremony, deserves to have severe punitive legal action taken against him.

We're getting an interesting look into IM's mind, interesting in the same way a train wreck is: it's horrible and devastating but I can't look away.

[Kannap]

That’s stupid.

There’s a fair bit of renovation, repairs, chores, and upgrades that the house and surrounding properties could use.

Upon learning my parents don't care about my safety or well-being, I go ahead and kill them while I'm killing the kidnapper

[Aghwank]

she tried to kidnap me so im picking the last one

[Infected Mushroom]

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.

Overthrow the state. It's a dumb state.

There's rarely ever enough support for that in the IM Verse. Some hypotheticals have revolutions but in general things are more ordered and the people are more conservative when it comes to power structures.

[Infected Mushroom]

It might prove to be a traumatic/semi-traumatic incident. She might not want to try again out of fear of another several months long stint.

Prison time may be longer but in many ways, this is worse.

No it’s not worse. I’d much rather do hard labor for a year than to go to prison for a day.

Then we differ on that.

[Infected Mushroom]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away? The police are literally at your house.

Don't worry, if I murder the lady I'll be able to talk my sentence down to community service. The legal system in this scenario is silly

She didn't commit any murders. Murders are taken very seriously.

[Chan Island]

Then I fly to the US and go live with my aunt instead of spending any additional seconds with these callous bastards who think I would accept living with someone who tried to kidnap me.

You don't really have that kind of complete autonomy as a minor. You're basically a subject of your parents until adulthood, and even then, they might have undue economic influence.

The parents lord over your property (and they have "delegated" some responsibilities to you which they can literally interfere with and alter for whatever their reason, even revoke) and now they also lord over Anna. By simply giving birth to you and staying within the lines of the law, they hold nearly complete authority over you as a person until you are past that age line set by society. They represent parental authority to the max in the scenario.

Cool.

Fortunately, I currently have relatives who aren't wannabe lordling sociopaths and if I have those in this scenario, I go live with them instead of folks who want me to hang out with a goddamn kidnapper for money.

And sane societies allow a degree of scope to allow to choose to do so.

[Infected Mushroom]

You don't really have that kind of complete autonomy as a minor. You're basically a subject of your parents until adulthood, and even then, they might have undue economic influence.

The parents lord over your property (and they have "delegated" some responsibilities to you which they can literally interfere with and alter for whatever their reason, even revoke) and now they also lord over Anna. By simply giving birth to you and staying within the lines of the law, they hold nearly complete authority over you as a person until you are past that age line set by society. They represent parental authority to the max in the scenario.

Cool.

Fortunately, I currently have relatives who aren't wannabe lordling sociopaths and if I have those in this scenario, I go live with them instead of folks who want me to hang out with a goddamn kidnapper for money.

And sane societies allow a degree of scope to allow to choose to do so.

I don't know. I didn't really enjoy any freedom of mobility or speech until adulthood. So the hypothetical draws from my own life as premises etc. If I had tried to leave for an aunt or uncle I'd have been locked into a room for days and hard threatened if not much worse.

[Heloin]

Don't worry, if I murder the lady I'll be able to talk my sentence down to community service. The legal system in this scenario is silly

She didn't commit any murders. Murders are taken very seriously.

Kidnappers are by and large murderers. There’s a lot of overlap between the two.

[Infected Mushroom]

She didn't commit any murders. Murders are taken very seriously.

Kidnappers are by and large murderers. There’s a lot of overlap between the two.

In the judicial system in the hypothetical, murder is infinitely more serious.

[Heloin]

Kidnappers are by and large murderers. There’s a lot of overlap between the two.

In the judicial system in the hypothetical, murder is infinitely more serious.

Yes, in this fictional world legal system is one designed by loons as far as I can tell. That doesn’t actually have much relevance on the thought process of us “normal” people who do not exist in the toon town.