Re: Exploitation of Labour?

[Vikanias]

8. Bitch decided to hurt my dog, she will work all hours and work till she breaks. Once she’s done we take her out to the woods and do the do.

[Infected Mushroom]

8. Bitch decided to hurt my dog, she will work all hours and work till she breaks. Once she’s done we take her out to the woods and do the do.

The… the do? Do the do? Do what?

[Infected Mushroom]

Under the arrangement you’d be allowed to use limited non-lethal sanctions against the criminal to enforce the agreement where they are negligent or defiant (alternatively, your parents may decide to revoke the agreement). Whipping to death would be against the law. Remember, the state is watching.

In most cases the parents would decide this stuff. They’ve only left the assignment of tasks to you.

A serial burglar/con artist/kidnapper gets sentenced to community service working in the house where the kids she tried to kidnap live.

Facing a murder rap isn't a deterrent here, I whip her to death.

Your parents are very interested in using her labour to improve the property. Also, the police wouldn’t allow it.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

No

coulda just stopped there

[The Two Jerseys]

A serial burglar/con artist/kidnapper gets sentenced to community service working in the house where the kids she tried to kidnap live.

Facing a murder rap isn't a deterrent here, I whip her to death.

Your parents are very interested in using her labour to improve the property.

And give zero shits about their kids' welfare, which is all the more reason to beat her to death.

Also, the police wouldn’t allow it.

This police force seems incapable of preventing a turtle from jaywalking, so I think I'm good.

[Vikanias]

8. Bitch decided to hurt my dog, she will work all hours and work till she breaks. Once she’s done we take her out to the woods and do the do.

The… the do? Do the do? Do what?

If you can’t pick up what I’m trying to say here I feel bad for you. Why would I take her to the woods besides shooting her dead.

[Infected Mushroom]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away? The police are literally at your house.

[Infected Mushroom]

I did not expect a majority of polled posters to go with option 8, I was expecting more middle ground votes. What’s the rationale?

[The Two Jerseys]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away?

Because you created a world where people who commit heinous crimes can plead down to community service, so prosecution isn't a deterrent.

Also, the inmates in Cell Block B will probably do a better job at parenting than these clowns...

[Infected Mushroom]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away?

Because you created a world where people who commit heinous crimes can plead down to community service, so prosecution isn't a deterrent.

Also, the inmates in Cell Block B will probably do a better job at parenting than these clowns...

Murder is taken very seriously. The deal was reached for her due to there being no lasting bodily harm.

The parents’ actions in the hypothetical have a lot of historical precedent. It’s a different society and culture.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

I did not expect a majority of polled posters to go with option 8, I was expecting more middle ground votes. What’s the rationale?

most of the people who would vote otherwise don’t want to be involved in the situation at all.

[Infected Mushroom]

How come?

you first had a whole backstory listing every single event that led up to the actual question. then the question is also rather strange (I don't think being forced to work for a victim is a very common punishment).

It isn’t too common.

Would it work IRL with safeguards? Why or why not?

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

you first had a whole backstory listing every single event that led up to the actual question. then the question is also rather strange (I don't think being forced to work for a victim is a very common punishment).

It isn’t too common.

Would it work IRL with safeguards? Why or why not?

being forced into working for someone is never good.

[Vikanias]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away? The police are literally at your house.

A literal kidnapper, extorter and a bunch of other crime related wouldn’t probably get you community service for a month and you walk free, just because you do physical labour doesn’t mean you change as a person that much especially when you are a terrible one.

[New Zoigai]

So assuming this home alone senario takes place in say.... Pakistan or Ethopia Finding the phone line would be the best course of action.

after that I assume number 1 or 2 would be the best option

[Infected Mushroom]

All murders will be prevented/prosecuted. Why throw your life away? The police are literally at your house.

A literal kidnapper, extorter and a bunch of other crime related wouldn’t probably get you community service for a month and you walk free, just because you do physical labour doesn’t mean you change as a person that much especially when you are a terrible one.

Three months.

You don’t think it’s sufficient deterrence?

[Infected Mushroom]

Would anyone choose to pay a wage? Even if low?

[Flakusorum]

I did not expect a majority of polled posters to go with option 8, I was expecting more middle ground votes. What’s the rationale?

The poll described doesn't have the life in prison or execution option. Working her to death is the closest you can get to actually addressing the fact that this person is a known criminal guilty of heinous crimes and who has recently targeted you and your family and has a reason to hold a grudge.

[Infected Mushroom]

I did not expect a majority of polled posters to go with option 8, I was expecting more middle ground votes. What’s the rationale?

The poll described doesn't have the life in prison or execution option. Working her to death is the closest you can get to actually addressing the fact that this person is a known criminal guilty of heinous crimes and who has recently targeted you and your family and has a reason to hold a grudge.

So it’s motivated by animosity towards the character?

[Thermodolia]

A literal kidnapper, extorter and a bunch of other crime related wouldn’t probably get you community service for a month and you walk free, just because you do physical labour doesn’t mean you change as a person that much especially when you are a terrible one.

Three months.

You don’t think it’s sufficient deterrence?

lol no. There’s a reason kidnapping and extortion are all multi year stints in the pen. A few months hard labor isn’t going to deter anyone.

[Infected Mushroom]

Three months.

You don’t think it’s sufficient deterrence?

lol no. There’s a reason kidnapping and extortion are all multi year stints in the pen. A few months hard labor isn’t going to deter anyone.

It might prove to be a traumatic/semi-traumatic incident. She might not want to try again out of fear of another several months long stint.

Prison time may be longer but in many ways, this is worse.

[Chan Island]

Apart from everything else going on in this wild thread, why the fuck would I want this kidnapper who tried to shoot me with a tranq gun anywhere near me?

I wouldn't want her to sign this stupid deal for work. She'll just be a happy little psychopath before going right back to kidnapping people again. She going to jail, and staying there for a long time.

[Washington Resistance Army]

lol no. There’s a reason kidnapping and extortion are all multi year stints in the pen. A few months hard labor isn’t going to deter anyone.

It might prove to be a traumatic/semi-traumatic incident. She might not want to try again out of fear of another several months long stint.

Prison time may be longer but in many ways, this is worse.

It absolutely is not worse. It doesn't even begin to compare to the soul crushing reality of being stuck in a small box with nothing to do except read, workout and sleep for the great majority of the day for years on end.

[Chan Island]

It might prove to be a traumatic/semi-traumatic incident. She might not want to try again out of fear of another several months long stint.

Prison time may be longer but in many ways, this is worse.

It absolutely is not worse. It doesn't even begin to compare to the soul crushing reality of being stuck in a small box with nothing to do except read, workout and sleep for the great majority of the day for years on end.

And sharing meals with some of the scariest people in the world.

I remember one time talking to an ex-con and he reckoned the worst part about prison was knowing you were standing in line in front of the dude who murdered 3 children and behind the dude who tortured someone in their basement for a month.

Genuinely utterly blindsided by this idea that a few months community service in my house is in any way worse.

[Infected Mushroom]

Apart from everything else going on in this wild thread, why the fuck would I want this kidnapper who tried to shoot me with a tranq gun anywhere near me?

I wouldn't want her to sign this stupid deal for work. She'll just be a happy little psychopath before going right back to kidnapping people again. She going to jail, and staying there for a long time.

Your parents want to profit from her free labour. A deal was reached with the state.