What do white nationalists mean by "Defend our culture"?

[Ethel mermania]

pretty much this. White nationalists are an immigrant society and their roots are all across Europe...

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[Fahran]

pretty much this. White nationalists are an immigrant society and their roots are all across Europe...

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[Michel Meilleur]

I honestly want to get if they honestly think something will be banned or if it's an open secret code for "I want to kill Mexicans for fun".

I suppose that depends on the white nationalist in question, though I'll note that Mexicans can be, not only white, but also white nationalists. In fact, most third or fourth generation Mexican Americans, especially those who speak English and have lighter complexions, begin identifying as white. They also tend to "pass" as white among other American social groups. I've gotten read as an Anglo and I've gotten read as a Latina too. Just depends on the observer, I guess.

That's the "interesting" thing about that those kind of identity based around race. It's not like Nationalism where it's your culture, language and "behavior" / beliefs that decides whether you're part of one group or not.

For white pride (or black or brown or yellow for that matter), is it just your appearance that defines you? So, in that case, an albino is better than a tanned redneck.
Or is it your ancestry? But then, how do you define how white your parents were so it decides how white you yourself are? With ancestry too? Or with how they looked like themselves?


It seems like white nat shit just devolves to nationalism for its core but then try to exclude peoples that they're not happy are part of the nation.

[Kubra]

I suppose that depends on the white nationalist in question, though I'll note that Mexicans can be, not only white, but also white nationalists. In fact, most third or fourth generation Mexican Americans, especially those who speak English and have lighter complexions, begin identifying as white. They also tend to "pass" as white among other American social groups. I've gotten read as an Anglo and I've gotten read as a Latina too. Just depends on the observer, I guess.

That's the "interesting" thing about that those kind of identity based around race. It's not like Nationalism where it's your culture, language and "behavior" / beliefs that decides whether you're part of one group or not.

For white pride (or black or brown or yellow for that matter), is it just your appearance that defines you? So, in that case, an albino is better than a tanned redneck.
Or is it your ancestry? But then, how do you define how white your parents were so it decides how white you yourself are? With ancestry too? Or with how they looked like themselves?


It seems like white nat shit just devolves to nationalism for its core but then try to exclude peoples that they're not happy are part of the nation.

Ancestry, generally. Unlike you latins, anglo-saxons took lineage *very* seriously and made it colonial law, unlike you latins who were otherwise fine so long as folks knew vous from tu and a merlot from a syrah.

[The free romanians]

There is not a white culture
Americans regardless of race share a culture more than european ameircans and europeans and etc etc

[Fahran]

There is not a white culture
Americans regardless of race share a culture more than european ameircans and europeans and etc etc

I do think subcultures exist within broader American culture based on ethnic background, race, region, and religion, but I agree with your main point here. A New Englander has more in common with a Black Southerner than an Englishman. That said, things do get a bit more complicated when we look at Chicano culture - due mostly to language in particular localities.

[Fahran]

Ancestry, generally. Unlike you latins, anglo-saxons took lineage *very* seriously and made it colonial law, unlike you latins who were otherwise fine so long as folks knew vous from tu and a merlot from a syrah.

Ancestry was taken pretty seriously among Latinos for the longest time. It created a much more sharply defined and particular racial caste system throughout Latin America than existed in the United States. That said, the one-drop rule in the United States, especially in the South, meant that the American system was arguably more rigid than what existed in Mexico, Colombia, or Haiti.

[Ayytaly]

Anglosaxonism

[Salus Maior]

Anglosaxonism

Which would have been way cooler if it meant an actual return to Anglo-Saxon culture.

French loanwords gtfo.

[Ayytaly]

Anglosaxonism

Which would have been way cooler if it meant an actual return to Anglo-Saxon culture.

French loanwords gtfo.

Anglo-Saxon culture involved invading Britain, which the French did later.

[Salus Maior]

Which would have been way cooler if it meant an actual return to Anglo-Saxon culture.

French loanwords gtfo.

Anglo-Saxon culture involved invading Britain, which the French did later.

Ok?

[Kubra]

Ancestry, generally. Unlike you latins, anglo-saxons took lineage *very* seriously and made it colonial law, unlike you latins who were otherwise fine so long as folks knew vous from tu and a merlot from a syrah.

Ancestry was taken pretty seriously among Latinos for the longest time. It created a much more sharply defined and particular racial caste system throughout Latin America than existed in the United States. That said, the one-drop rule in the United States, especially in the South, meant that the American system was arguably more rigid than what existed in Mexico, Colombia, or Haiti.

the thing with the whole casta thing was that it was something that existed largely on paper, being difficult to actually quantify on the ground. One could be full blood Indio and claim Spanish blood, so long as one downed a whole skin of wine before calling the census official a maricon.
And the latter is the rub: Anglo colonies were pretty much all one-drop back in the day, and did much less than the latins in terms of co-opting local rulers and integrating them into the metropoles sphere.

[Risottia]

Sorry, we don't accept such late returns. Your business now.

Even if we have a receipt?

Only if it's the original, written on thermal paper, still 100% readable.

Sorry, we don't accept such late returns. Your business now.

Sir, these products are not in keeping with your quality assurance policy.

Please feel free to take your business with the government that issued such assurance originally.
You might find a bit difficult to locate the Kingdom of Italy, the Austrian Empire, the Russian Empire, Prussia, the German Empire, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, though.

[Fahran]

Even if we have a receipt?

Only if it's the original, written on thermal paper, still 100% readable.

Sir, these products are not in keeping with your quality assurance policy.

Please feel free to take your business with the government that issued such assurance originally.
You might find a bit difficult to locate the Kingdom of Italy, the Austrian Empire, the Russian Empire, Prussia, the German Empire, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, though.

Acting like Russia isn't begging ethnic Russians to return to the bosom of Mother Russia to offset the shrinking population.

[Hamidiye]

Eeezy. They're uncultured barbarians that can't spell but want to feel superior to others. Since their own capabilities are so lacking they latch on to something they have to do nothing about to be a part of - hence "muh culture". If any idiot wants to feel superior bvut has nothing allowing him to do so he defaults to the one thing he has for free: his birth. "I'm a real born true-blooded idiotistanian, and all Idiotistanians are inherently better than anyone else!"

If you want to defend your culture and make it great - add to it. Or GTFO.

[Dreria]

I honestly want to get if they honestly think something will be banned or if it's an open secret code for "I want to kill Mexicans for fun".

I suppose that depends on the white nationalist in question, though I'll note that Mexicans can be, not only white, but also white nationalists. In fact, most third or fourth generation Mexican Americans, especially those who speak English and have lighter complexions, begin identifying as white. They also tend to "pass" as white among other American social groups. I've gotten read as an Anglo and I've gotten read as a Latina too. Just depends on the observer, I guess.

there are more mexican white nationalists than white white nationalists at this point

[Ethel mermania]

Even if we have a receipt?

Only if it's the original, written on thermal paper, still 100% readable.

Sir, these products are not in keeping with your quality assurance policy.

Please feel free to take your business with the government that issued such assurance originally.
You might find a bit difficult to locate the Kingdom of Italy, the Austrian Empire, the Russian Empire, Prussia, the German Empire, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, though.

I am very disappointed with the customer service. May i please speak to a manager.

[Major-Tom]

They don't mean culture, I'll tell ya that.

[Europa Undivided]

They have a culture?

[Fahran]

I suppose that depends on the white nationalist in question, though I'll note that Mexicans can be, not only white, but also white nationalists. In fact, most third or fourth generation Mexican Americans, especially those who speak English and have lighter complexions, begin identifying as white. They also tend to "pass" as white among other American social groups. I've gotten read as an Anglo and I've gotten read as a Latina too. Just depends on the observer, I guess.

there are more mexican white nationalists than white white nationalists at this point

This implies that Mexican white nationalists aren’t predominantly white. A racial and ethnic hierarchy has endured in Mexico to the present day despite the ostensible flexibility of identity with the development of cosmic race nationalism - which has arguably complicated the struggle of indigenous peoples to achieve actualization and group rights. It’s actually commonly commented on when a Mexican historical figure had clear and discernible indigenous or African origins or when they’re believed to have, specifically because a lot of early political and social elites were criollos or the children of criollo landowners - these people were often of Spanish, Catalan, or Basque ancestry, though they could be more diverse too.

[Fahran]

They have a culture?

Every group or community has a culture. They may have really unpalatable and stupid systems of values, but I’d say most white nationalists do have a culture and subculture.

[Bistritza]

This thread is just flamebait but I'll give you 1 piece of thought to ponder on:
Most ''WN's'' are in the manual labour working class. ''Defending culture'' from foreigners who ''came and stole their jobs'' is how your political enemies took the working class demographic from you.
Your better approach to this would be to reverse tf back onto the class warfare argument to get both ''WN'' and foreigners as voters.
Or you could just continue to have this weird whig-yet-not-libertarian agenda and die out.

[Salus Maior]

This is something I've never understood. When someone complains about their culture being threatened, just what are they afraid of losing? Do they think they'll be forced to eat tacos and listen to mariachi music? Is speaking English held that sacredly? Or is being white unto itself the "culture" they're afraid of losing? What part of culture is it that causes people to think they need to wipe out the other to defend it?

Well, you made it less open with "white nationalists" and it's a simple answer.

Maintain a certain racial pecking order.

[Bear Stearns]

I'd imagine the same thing Israeli Zionists mean when they say the same.

[Europa Undivided]

This is something I've never understood. When someone complains about their culture being threatened, just what are they afraid of losing? Do they think they'll be forced to eat tacos and listen to mariachi music? Is speaking English held that sacredly? Or is being white unto itself the "culture" they're afraid of losing? What part of culture is it that causes people to think they need to wipe out the other to defend it?

Well, you made it less open with "white nationalists" and it's a simple answer.

Maintain a certain racial pecking order.

I would like to shove a taxi down some Karen's throat

Edit: I know, it's a typo of taco, but I consider it funny so it stays.