Musk resigns as Twitter CEO, Linda Yaccarino takes over

[Ifreann]

Don't tell me you're surprised that he's a scumbag...

Whomst could have predicted that Ghislaine Maxwell's friend Elon could have been come kind of sex criminal?

[Archinstinct]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

So this is why Elon said that he'd be voting Republican. He was asked to comment and tried to get out ahead of the story.

I got one that'd be better if people really want to smear Elon: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... inst-tesla

The above article would clearly paint him in a more negative light and is much more relevant because it can call into question his ethics managing a company. Just saying.

I would like to see the declaration made by the friend of the attendant, along with any corroborative evidence they can bring forth. Is a lawsuit expected, or is this something conveniently brought up for political mud-slinging over this twitter acquisition deal, like the videos released by project veritas over horrible comments made by twitter employees?

I remember back during the height of the #Metoo movement a woman tried to accuse somebody I chat with of sexual misconduct. They at least brought up something resembling evidence; their text messaging showing they did flirt back and forth. Her side of the story was sketchy, the girl changed her story repeatedly, she didn't provide more proof, and she immediately backed down when the other side lawyered up, deleting what they posted publicly. Never even tried for a civil suit.
So what I learned from that is; when allegations of anything sexual-related is being brought up the ones doing the accusing needs to bring in substantial proof. Multiple witnesses, video (smartphone/camera), anything like text messages, etc.

That attendant needs to step up with a lawsuit any dig up evidence in discovery, because a letter written by a friend who wasn't there is probably not enough. More so because it's being brought up now during a time where the person being accused is buying twitter, which is a big thing; the timing of it can make people suspicious of the intent behind it.

[Antipatros]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

So this is why Elon said that he'd be voting Republican. He was asked to comment and tried to get out ahead of the story.

“Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold...”

[Gravlen]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

So this is why Elon said that he'd be voting Republican. He was asked to comment and tried to get out ahead of the story.

“Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold...”

Sneaky Democrats, planning this since 2016...

[Ifreann]

“Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold...”

Sneaky Democrats, planning this since 2016...

Thanks, Obama.

[Saiwania]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

He's the world's richest man, he's a target for this fact alone. It should be obvious that this could be an attempt to extort/claw away some of his money. If he's guilty, its a problem that it's still true that people will use any excuse they can to get at his money. There will automatically be doubt cast because he's so high status. He could be like Jabba the Hutt in amassing a private army if he wanted to blow through a lot of his fortune on his own.

[Ifreann]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

He's the world's richest man, he's a target for this fact alone. It should be obvious that this is probably an attempt to extort/claw away some of his money.

Documents about a settlement from 2018 about sexual harassment from 2016 is an attempt to extort money? How though? No part of this seems to involve anyone getting any of Elon's money. Even the settlement in 2018 was paid by SpaceX.

[Kerwa]

CNN should assign Jeffrey Toobin to investigate this new scandal,

[The Holy Therns]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

He's the world's richest man, he's a target for this fact alone. It should be obvious that this could be an attempt to extort/claw away some of his money. If he's guilty, its a problem that it's still true that people will use any excuse they can to get at his money. There will automatically be doubt cast because he's so high status. He could be like Jabba the Hutt in amassing a private army if he wanted to blow through a lot of his fortune on his own.

Do you get paid to reference Star Wars all the time or something?

[Vassenor]

Business Insider: "A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence."

He's the world's richest man, he's a target for this fact alone. It should be obvious that this could be an attempt to extort/claw away some of his money. If he's guilty, its a problem that it's still true that people will use any excuse they can to get at his money. There will automatically be doubt cast because he's so high status. He could be like Jabba the Hutt in amassing a private army if he wanted to blow through a lot of his fortune on his own.

Given how badly Tesla's stock has cratered recently is he still actually the World's Richest Man?

[Daniel-Franklin]

Fascinating how quickly neoliberals have gone from lionizing Elon Musk to attacking him, but that's because he didn't toe the right line. If he had just stuck to union-busting, like Bezos and Schultz, while piously pretending to give a crap about the working class and progressive causes....if only he hadn't gone after the morons running Twitter.

[Ifreann]

Fascinating how quickly neoliberals have gone from lionizing Elon Musk to attacking him, but that's because he didn't toe the right line. If he had just stuck to union-busting, like Bezos and Schultz, while piously pretending to give a crap about the working class and progressive causes....if only he hadn't gone after the morons running Twitter.

"gone after"
He's giving them billions of dollars.

[Daniel-Franklin]

Fascinating how quickly neoliberals have gone from lionizing Elon Musk to attacking him, but that's because he didn't toe the right line. If he had just stuck to union-busting, like Bezos and Schultz, while piously pretending to give a crap about the working class and progressive causes....if only he hadn't gone after the morons running Twitter.

"gone after"
He's giving them billions of dollars.

After attacking their agenda and seizing control of their firm. Clearly, he's not a fan of their mismanagement style.

[Ifreann]

"gone after"
He's giving them billions of dollars.

After attacking their agenda

Their agenda is making money, same as his.

and seizing control of their firm.

By buying it from them. With billions of dollars.

Clearly, he's not a fan of their mismanagement style.

Damn, you got 'em, bro, you owned them big time.

[Daniel-Franklin]

After attacking their agenda

Their agenda is making money, same as his.

and seizing control of their firm.

By buying it from them. With billions of dollars.

Clearly, he's not a fan of their mismanagement style.

Damn, you got 'em, bro, you owned them big time.

Sure, they made bank. But they're clearly not happy, anyway. Why is that? I think that you can guess.

Not a big fan of Musk, but at least he acted when others just whined about Twitter's idiotic rules and inconsistent enforcement.

[Ifreann]

Their agenda is making money, same as his.

By buying it from them. With billions of dollars.

Damn, you got 'em, bro, you owned them big time.

Sure, they made bank. But they're clearly not happy, anyway. Why is that? I think that you can guess.

Of course they're happy, they're getting paid well over the odds for the shares in Twitter, assuming Musk doesn't find some way to break the deal. The people who are unhappy with Musk taking over Twitter are people who use it, who rightly fear that anything he does to try and wring more money out of the site will make it worse.

Not a big fan of Musk, but at least he acted when others just whined about Twitter's idiotic rules and inconsistent enforcement.

It is no compliment to Musk that what moves him to action is a belief that a website's moderation policies aren't being enacted consistently, but not people dying for want of food or medicine or shelter.

[Ethel mermania]

Fascinating how quickly neoliberals have gone from lionizing Elon Musk to attacking him, but that's because he didn't toe the right line. If he had just stuck to union-busting, like Bezos and Schultz, while piously pretending to give a crap about the working class and progressive causes....if only he hadn't gone after the morons running Twitter.

"gone after"
He's giving them billions of dollars.

Bailed out

[Daniel-Franklin]

Sure, they made bank. But they're clearly not happy, anyway. Why is that? I think that you can guess.

Of course they're happy, they're getting paid well over the odds for the shares in Twitter, assuming Musk doesn't find some way to break the deal. The people who are unhappy with Musk taking over Twitter are people who use it, who rightly fear that anything he does to try and wring more money out of the site will make it worse.

Not a big fan of Musk, but at least he acted when others just whined about Twitter's idiotic rules and inconsistent enforcement.

It is no compliment to Musk that what moves him to action is a belief that a website's moderation policies aren't being enacted consistently, but not people dying for want of food or medicine or shelter.

More freedom of speech will make it worse for whom? Those who can't stand an opposing viewpoint?

[Ifreann]

Of course they're happy, they're getting paid well over the odds for the shares in Twitter, assuming Musk doesn't find some way to break the deal. The people who are unhappy with Musk taking over Twitter are people who use it, who rightly fear that anything he does to try and wring more money out of the site will make it worse.


It is no compliment to Musk that what moves him to action is a belief that a website's moderation policies aren't being enacted consistently, but not people dying for want of food or medicine or shelter.

More freedom of speech will make it worse for whom? Those who can't stand an opposing viewpoint?

Musk quite explicitly isn't going to have more freedom of speech on Twitter, he's been clear on that. His plans to somehow remove bots and spam from the site fly in the face of the free speech absolutism people ascribe to him. Musk certainly says that he supports free speech, but the thing to understand about that is that it's a lie. He's lying to try and make people think he's cool because he's a deeply pathetic person, especially in the wake of another failed marriage.

And it's very strange that you think that the way Musk is going to try and get Twitter to generate more money is to have more freedom of speech. Most people would have thought first of more prominent advertisements or paywalling new or existing features. Subscribe to Twitter Blue to get quote-tweets back, that kind of thing.

[Daniel-Franklin]

More freedom of speech will make it worse for whom? Those who can't stand an opposing viewpoint?

Musk quite explicitly isn't going to have more freedom of speech on Twitter, he's been clear on that. His plans to somehow remove bots and spam from the site fly in the face of the free speech absolutism people ascribe to him. Musk certainly says that he supports free speech, but the thing to understand about that is that it's a lie. He's lying to try and make people think he's cool because he's a deeply pathetic person, especially in the wake of another failed marriage.

And it's very strange that you think that the way Musk is going to try and get Twitter to generate more money is to have more freedom of speech. Most people would have thought first of more prominent advertisements or paywalling new or existing features. Subscribe to Twitter Blue to get quote-tweets back, that kind of thing.

It's not going to be perfect, but it's likely to be better than the status quo. But I guess that we'll find out soon enough.

[Ifreann]

Musk quite explicitly isn't going to have more freedom of speech on Twitter, he's been clear on that. His plans to somehow remove bots and spam from the site fly in the face of the free speech absolutism people ascribe to him. Musk certainly says that he supports free speech, but the thing to understand about that is that it's a lie. He's lying to try and make people think he's cool because he's a deeply pathetic person, especially in the wake of another failed marriage.

And it's very strange that you think that the way Musk is going to try and get Twitter to generate more money is to have more freedom of speech. Most people would have thought first of more prominent advertisements or paywalling new or existing features. Subscribe to Twitter Blue to get quote-tweets back, that kind of thing.

It's not going to be perfect, but it's likely to be better than the status quo.

I wouldn't think so. Twitter's staff is already far from able to deal with harassment and abuse on the site, and with Musk's buyout saddling the company with huge amounts of debt and no plausible means to better monetise the site, layoffs are likely. The staff that remain will be too busy banning everyone who posts the picture of Musk with Ghislaine Maxwell to ban any of the people who send other users death threats over their opinions about the new Star Trek shows.

But I guess that we'll find out soon enough.

If the deal goes ahead.

[Gravlen]

Their agenda is making money, same as his.

By buying it from them. With billions of dollars.

Damn, you got 'em, bro, you owned them big time.

Sure, they made bank. But they're clearly not happy, anyway. Why is that? I think that you can guess.

They're so unhappy about it that they'll go to court to make sure it happens...

wait... Maybe the people crying all the way to the bank aren't doing so out of anger and sadness?

[Kerwa]

More freedom of speech will make it worse for whom? Those who can't stand an opposing viewpoint?

Musk quite explicitly isn't going to have more freedom of speech on Twitter, he's been clear on that. His plans to somehow remove bots and spam from the site fly in the face of the free speech absolutism people ascribe to him. Musk certainly says that he supports free speech, but the thing to understand about that is that it's a lie. He's lying to try and make people think he's cool because he's a deeply pathetic person, especially in the wake of another failed marriage.

And it's very strange that you think that the way Musk is going to try and get Twitter to generate more money is to have more freedom of speech. Most people would have thought first of more prominent advertisements or paywalling new or existing features. Subscribe to Twitter Blue to get quote-tweets back, that kind of thing.

Bots aren’t anything to do with free speech. Bots are fraud. Free speech has never been a defense to fraud.

[Kerwa]

Sure, they made bank. But they're clearly not happy, anyway. Why is that? I think that you can guess.

They're so unhappy about it that they'll go to court to make sure it happens...

wait... Maybe the people crying all the way to the bank aren't doing so out of anger and sadness?

Unless his claim about the %ge of bots is true, in which case they pay him and most likely face criminal proceedings.

[Antipatros]

Musk quite explicitly isn't going to have more freedom of speech on Twitter, he's been clear on that. His plans to somehow remove bots and spam from the site fly in the face of the free speech absolutism people ascribe to him. Musk certainly says that he supports free speech, but the thing to understand about that is that it's a lie. He's lying to try and make people think he's cool because he's a deeply pathetic person, especially in the wake of another failed marriage.

And it's very strange that you think that the way Musk is going to try and get Twitter to generate more money is to have more freedom of speech. Most people would have thought first of more prominent advertisements or paywalling new or existing features. Subscribe to Twitter Blue to get quote-tweets back, that kind of thing.

Bots aren’t anything to do with free speech. Bots are fraud. Free speech has never been a defense to fraud.

Now we're getting into a space where this is debatable.

Have you ever seen accounts which automatically post useful updates? For example, these:
https://twitter.com/earthquakebot
https://twitter.com/freegamefinding
https://twitter.com/dscovr_epic

How about bots that provide services to users, like this?: https://twitter.com/colorize_bot/with_replies

Should we blanket ban accounts like this? Or should we create a set of rules that "good" bots can follow? What should that ruleset look like?

This is the current ruleset: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-automation