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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:20 pm

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And the question remains. What law did Hunter break?

Doesn't matter. The topic is election interference by Twitter. They interfered. It wasn't the Russians, it was us


Ok. If you want tabloid journalism allowed then call it that.

The majority of people( well from what I seen ); are making it sound like Hunter and the Bidens committed crimes and there is a conspiracy to hide it.

With Trumps loss; what “conspiracies” did Twitter allow to go through on Trump?
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Postby Informed Consent » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Ok. That read like a Fox News talking head story. Seriously; a “real” investigation would not have Sean Hannity references unless Hunter was on and lying about things.

Smells like a Benghazi effort in the making.

Well, it is House Republicans publishing their work on a .gov site, so it is a bit dense compared to AP commentary that is doing its best not to comment on the matter.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:15 pm

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Well many people are on boards for various reasons. Even getting paid for it. My last company was high tech. There were non-high tech industry people on the board.


The only thing hunter has to sell is his father.

And his experience as a lawyer, his experience with transnational investments, and his experience working on a board of directors.

Convenient of you to simply ignore it, since it's contrary to your preferred narrative.

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US media is always involved in elections. All editorial decisions have an impact.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:18 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:Ok. That read like a Fox News talking head story. Seriously; a “real” investigation would not have Sean Hannity references unless Hunter was on and lying about things.

Smells like a Benghazi effort in the making.

Well, it is House Republicans publishing their work on a .gov site, so it is a bit dense compared to AP commentary that is doing its best not to comment on the matter.


Sorry what do you mean by “AP commentary that is doing its best not to comment on the matter?”
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:14 pm

Since this is pretty much a thread about Elon at this point, I might as well post this here

Musk’s Neuralink faces federal probe, employee backlash over animal tests
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:32 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Since this is pretty much a thread about Elon at this point, I might as well post this here

Musk’s Neuralink faces federal probe, employee backlash over animal tests
Confirming (what everyone already knows) that Elon is fucking psychopath!

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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:17 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Since this is pretty much a thread about Elon at this point, I might as well post this here

Musk’s Neuralink faces federal probe, employee backlash over animal tests
Confirming (what everyone already knows) that Elon is fucking psychopath!

The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:38 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Confirming (what everyone already knows) that Elon is fucking psychopath!

The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.


The sheer number of alphabet boys up Musk's ass has to be some sort of record.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:58 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.


The sheer number of alphabet boys up Musk's ass has to be some sort of record.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:16 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.


The sheer number of alphabet boys up Musk's ass has to be some sort of record.

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:44 pm

On another note, I do wonder how this will be written in Economics class as what to do, or what not to do.

I mean, I imagine it's up there with that one CEO who flat out told his audience that his company's jewelery are crap (Ratners), or Kodak that refused to get into digital photography until it's too late, or just the internet making some models of industries obsolete, like DVD rentals (I'm not saying they are completely gone, more like a very good chunk of them are gone).

In the same vein, "Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:26 pm

Valentine Z wrote:On another note, I do wonder how this will be written in Economics class as what to do, or what not to do.

I mean, I imagine it's up there with that one CEO who flat out told his audience that his company's jewelery are crap (Ratners), or Kodak that refused to get into digital photography until it's too late, or just the internet making some models of industries obsolete, like DVD rentals (I'm not saying they are completely gone, more like a very good chunk of them are gone).

In the same vein, "Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

Man, there are going to be entire business and economics post-grad textbooks written about Musk's cavalcade of fuckups.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:27 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:On another note, I do wonder how this will be written in Economics class as what to do, or what not to do.

I mean, I imagine it's up there with that one CEO who flat out told his audience that his company's jewelery are crap (Ratners), or Kodak that refused to get into digital photography until it's too late, or just the internet making some models of industries obsolete, like DVD rentals (I'm not saying they are completely gone, more like a very good chunk of them are gone).

In the same vein, "Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

Man, there are going to be entire business and economics post-grad textbooks written about Musk's cavalcade of fuckups.


I hope one's actually titled "Musk's Cavalcade of Fuckups"
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Postby Haganham » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:32 pm

Valentine Z wrote:"Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

I don't think this will ever be the take. Twitter was failing well before musk, for context, twitter's profits from the last ten years, in millions.

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Postby Nora Xent » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:38 pm

Twitter will probably not 'die' per se, it will stay around probably but it will have fallen from grace and the majority of the internet will have moved on from it, think Myspace, after all, death is a rare mercy in this kind of thing.

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Postby Nilokeras » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:22 pm

Haganham wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:"Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

I don't think this will ever be the take. Twitter was failing well before musk, for context, twitter's profits from the last ten years, in millions.

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Twitter doesn't need to make money in the same way Uber doesn't need to make money - immediate profit isn't the point.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:27 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.


The sheer number of alphabet boys up Musk's ass has to be some sort of record.

Which to his fanboys is evidence he is the Messiah.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:30 pm

Haganham wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:"Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

I don't think this will ever be the take. Twitter was failing well before musk, for context, twitter's profits from the last ten years, in millions.

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Twitter might have been doomed to fail, but it would probably have lasted a lot longer under someone else's leadership. It's the meteoric plummet under Musk's leadership that's going to be studied in the textbooks.
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:34 pm

Haganham wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:"Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.

I don't think this will ever be the take. Twitter was failing well before musk, for context, twitter's profits from the last ten years, in millions.

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The recent years look pretty good given that the pandemic issue of more users and less advertising money to be spent is subsiding.

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Postby Haganham » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:44 pm

Nilokeras wrote:Twitter doesn't need to make money in the same way Uber doesn't need to make money - immediate profit isn't the point.

Twitter is at the point where they've got as much of the arket as they're likely to, so yeah, they are at the point where they need to be making a profit. It was this inability to monetize that made a buyout so attractive.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:44 am

I wonder what Twitter did in 2017 that lead to such an explosion of income in 2018?
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Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I wonder what Twitter did in 2017 that lead to such an explosion of income in 2018?

According to Business of Apps, more advertising.
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:32 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:The man is definitely badly out of touch with reality for sure, and a raging narcissist on top of it. Sounds like this is just following his normal pattern.
  1. Make grandiose/wildly unrealistic promise about company/product.
  2. Run face-first into the brick wall of reality with "THIS IS NOT REALISTIC OR FEASIBLE" written on it.
  3. Try to ram through to achieve the unrealistic promise anyway by rushing and overworking employees, leading to more fuckups.
  4. ???
  5. PROFIT!.... maybe
  6. Regulating agency goes "Hello there."
I mean, HOW many of his companies are currently under one or more regulatory probes now? Tesla by the DoJ for the autopilot thing, the FTC is making noises in Twitter's general direction, SpaceX has a labor law violation suit heading its way, and now the USDA looking into Neuralink.
The sheer number of alphabet boys up Musk's ass has to be some sort of record.
You meanrent boys” and meanwhile at the Vatican...
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:19 am

Valentine Z wrote:On another note, I do wonder how this will be written in Economics class as what to do, or what not to do.

I mean, I imagine it's up there with that one CEO who flat out told his audience that his company's jewelery are crap (Ratners), or Kodak that refused to get into digital photography until it's too late, or just the internet making some models of industries obsolete, like DVD rentals (I'm not saying they are completely gone, more like a very good chunk of them are gone).

In the same vein, "Twitter failed because of the incompetence of the new CEO." Just one of the many ways a company fails.
Same energy...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 pm

Musk says advertisers are coming back to Twitter.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-n ... ver/440438

I dont have Twitter, can someone verify?
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