Musk says "Go f**k yourselves" to advertisers

[Port Carverton]

Sounds like another Russia Russia Russia collusion conspiracy theory that worked so well when Trump was in office. "Heather Burgundy", which happens to be a type of shirt, seems to be suggesting that the sins of the father are visited upon the son, even unto the seventh generation. Critics of Musk have used the same argument against him, arguing that because of his parents, Musk is the direct beneficiary of apartheid in South Africa. Big deal. So what. Privilege is nothing to be ashamed of. It's nothing to be proud of, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. So whatever you do, don't check your privilege. People shouldn't be judged for their background, let alone their race or gender, and yet that's exactly what the Left is doing when they go after folks like Musk and Trump. They're being racist, sexist and classist, but only when it's convenient to their modus operandi. Most of all, they're being weird.

For all we know, "Heather" could be making shit up about being censored on X. I don't believe "her" for one moment.

Joe Lonsdale's response

Sounds like a sensible immigration policy of admitting the best and the brightest individuals regardless of their background, a policy that's largely in line with traditional American values and the American Dream. Lonsdale, like Musk, doesn't allow his decision-making to be influenced by socialist ideology and personal feelings. As a critic of the CCP and Putin myself, I'm genuinely intrigued by this particular approach. Imagine having to work with someone who supports the CCP, supports all kinds of delusional woke causes, converts to Islam because it's the cool thing to do and wants to wipe Israel off the map, but who otherwise has the courtesy not to force his opinions onto me, shout me down, belittle me relentlessly or try to get me fired for "making him uncomfortable" AKA disagreeing with him or her. At most I would work with them, but we certainly wouldn't be friends and I would only tolerate them as acquaintances as long as they tolerate me and keep to themselves. But true freedom is a two-way street. Live and let live.

I'm not saying that the two individuals implicated in the Heather Burgundy post are guilty of airing pro-Putin political views in the workplace or pose a threat to corporate or national security. For all we know, they could be closet dissidents who are too afraid to speak out for perfectly understandable reasons. I wouldn't be too quick to pass judgment. But my point is that anyone who possesses the right skills and talent should be allowed to work at a large company regardless of their background or political views as long as their politics don't interfere with the company's operations and they don't pose a credible security threat. In other words, no woke employees going on strike to protest their company's support of Israel or cowardly signing anonymous petitions or some other woke shit. I would regard the latter, not the former, as inherently problematic workplace misconduct.

The megalomaniacal totalitarian leftist establishment, of course, doesn't like pragmatism or the idea of picking one's fights carefully. They don't believe in success for anyone but themselves. Thus, they're waging war on hard work, meritocracy, the free market, small tech, cryptocurrency and venture capitalism because they don't want anyone else to challenge them, hold them accountable or compete with them on a level footing. This makes them hypocrites reminiscent of the communist top brass in China.

Small wonder Musk, Lonsdale and others are getting behind Donald Trump. I would too if I were them. And I respect and admire them for going against the establishment grain and being willing to pay a steep price in the process.

You might be interested to know that other investors include the Kingdom Holding Company and its founder, Prince Al Waleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. That's Al Saud as in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you remember when Al Waleed's cousin, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, had a journalist tortured, murdered, and dismembered with a bone saw? It was a matter of some controversy.

Didn't that dude have shares on Twitter long before Musk?

[Fractalnavel]

Tweets or whatever are pretty short, posting their content would be nice for those of us who won't go near the place.

Not as short as you might think.

Elon Musk satisfied the demands and provided a list of shareholders of "X Holding Corp", who helped the billionaire buy Twitter.
Among them are Petr Aven and Vadim Moshkovich.

Petr Aven is a Russian billionaire, founder of Alfa Group, one of the main wallets for Putin. Aven is one of Putin's oldest friends. Putin would be in prison instead of becoming president without him. Aven covered for Vladimir Putin in 1992, when he organized an illegal trade in export licenses; he was also present at a meeting with Putin on February 24, 2022, in the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. He did not express any protest against "SVO" and supported Putin. By the way, he, together with Fridman, is trying to lift sanctions from himself, just yesterday he received another refusal in this matter.
In the purchase of Twitter he is represented by the company "8VC Opportunities Fund II, LP", where his son Denis works.

Vadim Moshkovich is a sanctioned Russian agricultural billionaire who was a member of the "Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation." In other words, he was officially part of Putin's inner circle. Moshkovich owns Russia's largest agricultural holding, Rusagro. Naturally, he was also present at the meeting with Putin on February 24, 2022, and, like Aven, did not express any protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
In the purchase of Twitter he is represented by the company "8VC Opportunities Fund II, LP", where his son Jack (Eugene) works.

Knowing all this, we now understand Elon Musk's bias. Everyone was wondering how it was possible that Twitter shares (X) were falling, advertisers were breaking contracts, and no one was doing anything. This was direct damage to investors. But everyone failed to take into account the fact that investors needed a platform to promote their narratives, such as: support for Putin and Russia; lobbying for freezing the war in Ukraine; removing the Ukrainian agenda from the top news etc.

It is now clear that all the changes on Twitter that are ruining this wonderful platform are a result of Elon Musk's collaboration with people like Moshkovich and Aven.

Oh, I see, wow. And thanks for posting anyway : )

[Terruana]

Hey guys, guess who owns parts of the social media platform formally known as Twitter

https://x.com/heatherburgundy/status/18 ... 8U-ruB61eg

Sounds like another Russia Russia Russia collusion conspiracy theory that worked so well when Trump was in office. "Heather Burgundy", which happens to be a type of shirt, seems to be suggesting that the sins of the father are visited upon the son, even unto the seventh generation. Critics of Musk have used the same argument against him, arguing that because of his parents, Musk is the direct beneficiary of apartheid in South Africa. Big deal. So what. Privilege is nothing to be ashamed of. It's nothing to be proud of, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. So whatever you do, don't check your privilege. People shouldn't be judged for their background, let alone their race or gender, and yet that's exactly what the Left is doing when they go after folks like Musk and Trump. They're being racist, sexist and classist, but only when it's convenient to their modus operandi. Most of all, they're being weird.

For all we know, "Heather" could be making shit up about being censored on X. I don't believe "her" for one moment.

Joe Lonsdale's response

Sounds like a sensible immigration policy of admitting the best and the brightest individuals regardless of their background, a policy that's largely in line with traditional American values and the American Dream. Lonsdale, like Musk, doesn't allow his decision-making to be influenced by socialist ideology and personal feelings. As a critic of the CCP and Putin myself, I'm genuinely intrigued by this particular approach. Imagine having to work with someone who supports the CCP, supports all kinds of delusional woke causes, converts to Islam because it's the cool thing to do and wants to wipe Israel off the map, but who otherwise has the courtesy not to force his opinions onto me, shout me down, belittle me relentlessly or try to get me fired for "making him uncomfortable" AKA disagreeing with him or her. At most I would work with them, but we certainly wouldn't be friends and I would only tolerate them as acquaintances as long as they tolerate me and keep to themselves. But true freedom is a two-way street. Live and let live.

I'm not saying that the two individuals implicated in the Heather Burgundy post are guilty of airing pro-Putin political views in the workplace or pose a threat to corporate or national security. For all we know, they could be closet dissidents who are too afraid to speak out for perfectly understandable reasons. I wouldn't be too quick to pass judgment. But my point is that anyone who possesses the right skills and talent should be allowed to work at a large company regardless of their background or political views as long as their politics don't interfere with the company's operations and they don't pose a credible security threat. In other words, no woke employees going on strike to protest their company's support of Israel or cowardly signing anonymous petitions or some other woke shit. I would regard the latter, not the former, as inherently problematic workplace misconduct.

The megalomaniacal totalitarian leftist establishment, of course, doesn't like pragmatism or the idea of picking one's fights carefully. They don't believe in success for anyone but themselves. Thus, they're waging war on hard work, meritocracy, the free market, small tech, cryptocurrency and venture capitalism because they don't want anyone else to challenge them, hold them accountable or compete with them on a level footing. This makes them hypocrites reminiscent of the communist top brass in China.

Small wonder Musk, Lonsdale and others are getting behind Donald Trump. I would too if I were them. And I respect and admire them for going against the establishment grain and being willing to pay a steep price in the process.

Could you clarify why clear evidence of support to a hostile foreign power (russia) is okay in your eyes, but perceived support for a hostile foreign power (hamas) is questionable workplace conduct?

[Vrbo]

Sounds like another Russia Russia Russia collusion conspiracy theory that worked so well when Trump was in office. "Heather Burgundy", which happens to be a type of shirt, seems to be suggesting that the sins of the father are visited upon the son, even unto the seventh generation. Critics of Musk have used the same argument against him, arguing that because of his parents, Musk is the direct beneficiary of apartheid in South Africa. Big deal. So what. Privilege is nothing to be ashamed of. It's nothing to be proud of, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. So whatever you do, don't check your privilege. People shouldn't be judged for their background, let alone their race or gender, and yet that's exactly what the Left is doing when they go after folks like Musk and Trump. They're being racist, sexist and classist, but only when it's convenient to their modus operandi. Most of all, they're being weird.

For all we know, "Heather" could be making shit up about being censored on X. I don't believe "her" for one moment.

Joe Lonsdale's response

Sounds like a sensible immigration policy of admitting the best and the brightest individuals regardless of their background, a policy that's largely in line with traditional American values and the American Dream. Lonsdale, like Musk, doesn't allow his decision-making to be influenced by socialist ideology and personal feelings. As a critic of the CCP and Putin myself, I'm genuinely intrigued by this particular approach. Imagine having to work with someone who supports the CCP, supports all kinds of delusional woke causes, converts to Islam because it's the cool thing to do and wants to wipe Israel off the map, but who otherwise has the courtesy not to force his opinions onto me, shout me down, belittle me relentlessly or try to get me fired for "making him uncomfortable" AKA disagreeing with him or her. At most I would work with them, but we certainly wouldn't be friends and I would only tolerate them as acquaintances as long as they tolerate me and keep to themselves. But true freedom is a two-way street. Live and let live.

I'm not saying that the two individuals implicated in the Heather Burgundy post are guilty of airing pro-Putin political views in the workplace or pose a threat to corporate or national security. For all we know, they could be closet dissidents who are too afraid to speak out for perfectly understandable reasons. I wouldn't be too quick to pass judgment. But my point is that anyone who possesses the right skills and talent should be allowed to work at a large company regardless of their background or political views as long as their politics don't interfere with the company's operations and they don't pose a credible security threat. In other words, no woke employees going on strike to protest their company's support of Israel or cowardly signing anonymous petitions or some other woke shit. I would regard the latter, not the former, as inherently problematic workplace misconduct.

The megalomaniacal totalitarian leftist establishment, of course, doesn't like pragmatism or the idea of picking one's fights carefully. They don't believe in success for anyone but themselves. Thus, they're waging war on hard work, meritocracy, the free market, small tech, cryptocurrency and venture capitalism because they don't want anyone else to challenge them, hold them accountable or compete with them on a level footing. This makes them hypocrites reminiscent of the communist top brass in China.

Small wonder Musk, Lonsdale and others are getting behind Donald Trump. I would too if I were them. And I respect and admire them for going against the establishment grain and being willing to pay a steep price in the process.

You might be interested to know that other investors include the Kingdom Holding Company and its founder, Prince Al Waleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. That's Al Saud as in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you remember when Al Waleed's cousin, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, had a journalist tortured, murdered, and dismembered with a bone saw? It was a matter of some controversy.

As far as anybody is concerned, Elon Musk is the crusader against the Muslim world. As long as that Muslim world doesn't include any rich countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, UAE you can trust a little money from their pockets to Elon will shut him up good. Trump has already went the mile to prove that.

[Liberal Malaysia]

Sounds like another Russia Russia Russia collusion conspiracy theory that worked so well when Trump was in office. "Heather Burgundy", which happens to be a type of shirt, seems to be suggesting that the sins of the father are visited upon the son, even unto the seventh generation. Critics of Musk have used the same argument against him, arguing that because of his parents, Musk is the direct beneficiary of apartheid in South Africa. Big deal. So what. Privilege is nothing to be ashamed of. It's nothing to be proud of, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. So whatever you do, don't check your privilege. People shouldn't be judged for their background, let alone their race or gender, and yet that's exactly what the Left is doing when they go after folks like Musk and Trump. They're being racist, sexist and classist, but only when it's convenient to their modus operandi. Most of all, they're being weird.

For all we know, "Heather" could be making shit up about being censored on X. I don't believe "her" for one moment.

Joe Lonsdale's response

Sounds like a sensible immigration policy of admitting the best and the brightest individuals regardless of their background, a policy that's largely in line with traditional American values and the American Dream. Lonsdale, like Musk, doesn't allow his decision-making to be influenced by socialist ideology and personal feelings. As a critic of the CCP and Putin myself, I'm genuinely intrigued by this particular approach. Imagine having to work with someone who supports the CCP, supports all kinds of delusional woke causes, converts to Islam because it's the cool thing to do and wants to wipe Israel off the map, but who otherwise has the courtesy not to force his opinions onto me, shout me down, belittle me relentlessly or try to get me fired for "making him uncomfortable" AKA disagreeing with him or her. At most I would work with them, but we certainly wouldn't be friends and I would only tolerate them as acquaintances as long as they tolerate me and keep to themselves. But true freedom is a two-way street. Live and let live.

I'm not saying that the two individuals implicated in the Heather Burgundy post are guilty of airing pro-Putin political views in the workplace or pose a threat to corporate or national security. For all we know, they could be closet dissidents who are too afraid to speak out for perfectly understandable reasons. I wouldn't be too quick to pass judgment. But my point is that anyone who possesses the right skills and talent should be allowed to work at a large company regardless of their background or political views as long as their politics don't interfere with the company's operations and they don't pose a credible security threat. In other words, no woke employees going on strike to protest their company's support of Israel or cowardly signing anonymous petitions or some other woke shit. I would regard the latter, not the former, as inherently problematic workplace misconduct.

The megalomaniacal totalitarian leftist establishment, of course, doesn't like pragmatism or the idea of picking one's fights carefully. They don't believe in success for anyone but themselves. Thus, they're waging war on hard work, meritocracy, the free market, small tech, cryptocurrency and venture capitalism because they don't want anyone else to challenge them, hold them accountable or compete with them on a level footing. This makes them hypocrites reminiscent of the communist top brass in China.

Small wonder Musk, Lonsdale and others are getting behind Donald Trump. I would too if I were them. And I respect and admire them for going against the establishment grain and being willing to pay a steep price in the process.

Could you clarify why clear evidence of support to a hostile foreign power (russia) is okay in your eyes, but perceived support for a hostile foreign power (hamas) is questionable workplace conduct?

Clear evidence would be demonstrating openly in support of Hamas and actively hampering corporate operations. "Perceived support" would be being related, through no fault of your own, to someone who is known to be friendly to a hostile foreign power. Woke employees who support Hamas and undermine the company's operations by going on strike over something unrelated to pay or working conditions should be fired from their jobs for, well, undermining their workplace and attempting to overthrow the management in a coup. Loyal employees who perform to the highest standards and merely happen to be related to someone that other people don't like should be encouraged and promoted.

[Terruana]

Could you clarify why clear evidence of support to a hostile foreign power (russia) is okay in your eyes, but perceived support for a hostile foreign power (hamas) is questionable workplace conduct?

Clear evidence would be demonstrating openly in support of Hamas and actively hampering corporate operations. "Perceived support" would be being related, through no fault of your own, to someone who is known to be friendly to a hostile foreign power. Woke employees who support Hamas and undermine the company's operations by going on strike over something unrelated to pay or working conditions should be fired from their jobs for, well, undermining their workplace and attempting to overthrow the management in a coup. Loyal employees who perform to the highest standards and merely happen to be related to someone that other people don't like should be encouraged and promoted.

Yes, but protesting against what is happening to innocent Palestinian children who have no links to Hamas is different to openly supporting Hamas. Hence it is perceived support, since those children are only related to Hamas (through no fault of their own) because of the country they happened to be born in.

Also, you haven't actually clarified why its better to support Russia (a hostile foreign power) than to support hamas (a hostile foreign power)?

[Liberal Malaysia]

Clear evidence would be demonstrating openly in support of Hamas and actively hampering corporate operations. "Perceived support" would be being related, through no fault of your own, to someone who is known to be friendly to a hostile foreign power. Woke employees who support Hamas and undermine the company's operations by going on strike over something unrelated to pay or working conditions should be fired from their jobs for, well, undermining their workplace and attempting to overthrow the management in a coup. Loyal employees who perform to the highest standards and merely happen to be related to someone that other people don't like should be encouraged and promoted.

Yes, but protesting against what is happening to innocent Palestinian children who have no links to Hamas is different to openly supporting Hamas. Hence it is perceived support, since those children are only related to Hamas (through no fault of their own) because of the country they happened to be born in.

Also, you haven't actually clarified why its better to support Russia (a hostile foreign power) than to support hamas (a hostile foreign power)?

They are deliberately slacking off due to reasons unrelated to pay or working conditions. They believe that their political views give them an aura of moral superiority that entitles them to slack off. They are being deliberately disruptive and they are individually and directly guilty of corporate sabotage and professional misconduct. There's nothing "perceived" about what they're doing. It's as clear as day and out in the open. Therefore, they should be told to get back to work or be fired on the spot, no questions asked. No company would tolerate deliberately disruptive employees who attempt to bully their employers into submission and even attempt to seize control in a coup. Tyranny works both ways. In this case, I am citing an example of Cultural Revolution-style mob rule and corporate lawlessness that has plagued other large companies such as Netflix in the past.

Nobody said anything about "supporting Russia". That's a Forbes-approved Russia collusion smear, which worked so well when Trump was in office. This particular iteration of the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theory will fizzle out like all the others. We already know by now how the legacy media operates. Anyone who is perceived to be aligned with Trump is automatically a target.

[Terruana]

Yes, but protesting against what is happening to innocent Palestinian children who have no links to Hamas is different to openly supporting Hamas. Hence it is perceived support, since those children are only related to Hamas (through no fault of their own) because of the country they happened to be born in.

Also, you haven't actually clarified why its better to support Russia (a hostile foreign power) than to support hamas (a hostile foreign power)?

They are deliberately slacking off due to reasons unrelated to pay or working conditions. They believe that their political views give them an aura of moral superiority that entitles them to slack off. They are being deliberately disruptive and they are individually and directly guilty of corporate sabotage and professional misconduct. There's nothing "perceived" about what they're doing. It's as clear as day and out in the open. Therefore, they should be told to get back to work or be fired on the spot, no questions asked. No company would tolerate deliberately disruptive employees who attempt to bully their employers into submission and even attempt to seize control in a coup. Tyranny works both ways. In this case, I am citing an example of Cultural Revolution-style mob rule and corporate lawlessness that has plagued other large companies such as Netflix in the past.

Nobody said anything about "supporting Russia". That's a Forbes-approved Russia collusion smear, which worked so well when Trump was in office. This particular iteration of the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theory will fizzle out like all the others. We already know by now how the legacy media operates. Anyone who is perceived to be aligned with Trump is automatically a target.

So to be clear, you're saying that the story about two of Putin's closest supporters being major twitter investors is just a lie made up to smear the company for supporting Trump?

[Arvenia]

They are deliberately slacking off due to reasons unrelated to pay or working conditions. They believe that their political views give them an aura of moral superiority that entitles them to slack off. They are being deliberately disruptive and they are individually and directly guilty of corporate sabotage and professional misconduct. There's nothing "perceived" about what they're doing. It's as clear as day and out in the open. Therefore, they should be told to get back to work or be fired on the spot, no questions asked. No company would tolerate deliberately disruptive employees who attempt to bully their employers into submission and even attempt to seize control in a coup. Tyranny works both ways. In this case, I am citing an example of Cultural Revolution-style mob rule and corporate lawlessness that has plagued other large companies such as Netflix in the past.

Nobody said anything about "supporting Russia". That's a Forbes-approved Russia collusion smear, which worked so well when Trump was in office. This particular iteration of the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theory will fizzle out like all the others. We already know by now how the legacy media operates. Anyone who is perceived to be aligned with Trump is automatically a target.

So to be clear, you're saying that the story about two of Putin's closest supporters being major twitter investors is just a lie made up to smear the company for supporting Trump?

Musk is both a Trumpist and a Putinist. Trump is clearly a puppet of Vladimir Putin at this point. Russophilia has completely taken over the Republican Party.

[Liberal Malaysia]

They are deliberately slacking off due to reasons unrelated to pay or working conditions. They believe that their political views give them an aura of moral superiority that entitles them to slack off. They are being deliberately disruptive and they are individually and directly guilty of corporate sabotage and professional misconduct. There's nothing "perceived" about what they're doing. It's as clear as day and out in the open. Therefore, they should be told to get back to work or be fired on the spot, no questions asked. No company would tolerate deliberately disruptive employees who attempt to bully their employers into submission and even attempt to seize control in a coup. Tyranny works both ways. In this case, I am citing an example of Cultural Revolution-style mob rule and corporate lawlessness that has plagued other large companies such as Netflix in the past.

Nobody said anything about "supporting Russia". That's a Forbes-approved Russia collusion smear, which worked so well when Trump was in office. This particular iteration of the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theory will fizzle out like all the others. We already know by now how the legacy media operates. Anyone who is perceived to be aligned with Trump is automatically a target.

So to be clear, you're saying that the story about two of Putin's closest supporters being major twitter investors is just a lie made up to smear the company for supporting Trump?

Lonsdale hired the sons, not the oligarchs themselves. The hit piece is a lazy attempt at guilt by association. Musk --> Lonsdale --> Sons --> Russian oligarchs. That's three degrees of separation. It's getting ridiculous. It's not like the MSM and federal agencies such as the FBI aren't part of a censorship-industrial complex themselves. If they want to play this game, it's not going to end well for them. The web of authoritarian deceit was exposed in the X-Files a couple of years ago and the legacy media completely ignored it because the revelations implicate them directly. How convenient.

So to be clear, you're saying that the story about two of Putin's closest supporters being major twitter investors is just a lie made up to smear the company for supporting Trump?

Musk is both a Trumpist and a Putinist. Trump is clearly a puppet of Vladimir Putin at this point. Russophilia has completely taken over the Republican Party.

Islamophilia has completely taken over the Democratic Party and the Left globally. I will not forgive such a betrayal. Elon Musk is part and parcel of the eternal struggle against radical Islam in Europe, Israel and elsewhere. Under his ownership, X now permits users to air their legitimate grievances about Islam and defend Israel to the hilt without fear of being censored on the spurious grounds of "Islamophobia", a nonexistent and nonsensical charge leveled at critics of Islam, Muslim immigration, divisive multiculturalism and a blind, literally skin-deep commitment to "diversity". He has given us all a voice to speak truth to power and challenge a deeply racist, Islamoleftist establishment narrative that privileges Muslims above non-Muslims even in countries where they are a minority of the population. For this, I am eternally grateful and I will defend him and his platform no matter what.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It's like that woman at the RNC in like 2008, desperately struggling to find synonyms to "negro" and finally settling on "arab".
But the difference now is that there is no John S. McCain looking aghast at this nonsensical declaration. No in 2024 we take bullshit like "democrats are islamowhatevers" with the same seriousness we used to treat the idea of the divine rights of kings with.

[Danternoust]

Islamophilia has completely taken over the Democratic Party and the Left globally. I will not forgive such a betrayal. Elon Musk is part and parcel of the eternal struggle against radical Islam in Europe, Israel and elsewhere. Under his ownership, X now permits users to air their legitimate grievances about Islam and defend Israel to the hilt without fear of being censored on the spurious grounds of "Islamophobia", a nonexistent and nonsensical charge leveled at critics of Islam, Muslim immigration, divisive multiculturalism and a blind, literally skin-deep commitment to "diversity". He has given us all a voice to speak truth to power and challenge a deeply racist, Islamoleftist establishment narrative that privileges Muslims above non-Muslims even in countries where they are a minority of the population. For this, I am eternally grateful and I will defend him and his platform no matter what.

Yes, Australia has been horrid in requesting the platform, not the user, remove a video showing a stabbing in front of a synagogue.

Why care about AI if factual events must also be suppressed?

[Saiwana]

It turns out the Cyber Truck is a piece of junk. One got into an accident and because its too heavy and won't meet NHTSA safety standards, it might become banned in the US like it is banned in other markets like Europe. It is now under governmental scrutiny. Tesla is going to have class action lawsuits as the problems of trying to keep a stainless steel car on the market mount. The metal itself is expensive and hard to work with and is no match for the weather. Rusting problems have been reported because its too expensive to stick clear coat onto it. The automakers that have made cars for longer have more experience with what works and what doesn't.

Beyond not being a very good truck, it is a candidate for one of the most dangerous vehicles ever made, (to other vehicles and pedestrians on the road). Not sure how that dumb line in the front is supposed to function as a good headlight. There used to be laws/rules for how big and wide in diameter headlights have to be on vehicles to illuminate the road. The Cyber Truck headlight design allegedly can't withstand snow cover, is supposedly not high up enough off the ground.

[Minoa]

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -elon-musk

Brazil has banned Twitter/X, but I think it is a bad idea to fine someone for using a VPN to access Twitter/X.

At the same time, Twitter/X is playing with matches in their push for Elon Musk's interpretation of free speech: there is also the impression that Elon Musk thinks he is above the law, considering the fact that he thinks he has the right to force advertisers to serve him.

[Liberal Malaysia]

Shame on Brazil. Shame on Lula and Moraes for acting like little communist dictators. The voices of the people will not be silenced. This move sets a very dangerous precedent and in the wake of this and Pavel Durov's arrest in France on trumped-up charges, VPNs are absolutely essential in this day and age. They guarantee access not just to porn, but to diverse points of view and sources of information, including the "approved" viewpoints of the ruling class of the day such as the BBC, the Obamas and Clintons and Meghan and Harry.

The only thing that's infantile and vulgar is the unprecedented crackdown on freedom of speech and political dissent in Brazil not seen since the transition to democracy in the 1980s, because dictators are infantile in their responses to criticism. Elon's only crime, like Trump's, is to rebel against his fellow elitists, hold different political views and speak truth to power. It's not as if other rich and powerful individuals who toe the progressive line such as Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos don't have their own skeletons in the closet that their peers can use to blackmail them into falling in line. I wouldn't be surprised if they're accused of some sort of sexual or financial impropriety at some point, only they'll probably get off easy because they're the Good Guys.

"Progressives" and far-leftists secretly consider the First and Second Amendments to be a roadblock to their agenda of total control and they will stop at absolutely nothing to obtain and cling onto power and lord it over the teeming masses of "far-right uneducated plebs" i.e. working-class people. They aren't even trying to hide their tyrannical motives. This has gone from "it's not happening" to "it's happening and it's a good thing". What an absolute upside-down clown world.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lon-musk-x

I swear to god why did I read this piece of pseudo-intellectual authoritarian drivel? Fuck you Jonathan Freedland. Fuck you all the way to hell with your totalitarian bullshit and your very open declaration of war on civil liberties. "Civil war is inevitable" is a perfectly sensible prediction given where Britain is currently and obviously headed, not an act of "incitement". "Information hygiene" and "online safety" my ass. X is an escape from tyrannical control freaks like you to implement your narrow elitist agenda. People aren't stupid. They don't need to be told what to think for your own selfish benefit. You are quick to blame social media just like you blamed video games, rap music, TV shows, radio programs and even books whenever things go wrong instead of blaming yourselves. You're always looking for a scapegoat to distract from your own policy failures and shirk all responsibility for making things right.

"Far-right" my ass. If Elon Musk is "far-right", then what does that make me? Exactly Jonny. You're so full of shit. We see you. Maybe we should shut down the far-left Guardian for propagating antisemitism, anti-white, anti-male and anti-Christian hate just to be consistent. We should arrest BLM, pro-Hamas and MeToo activists for their spreading disinformation and hate and scamming their supporters both online and offline. Let's see how you like to be on the receiving end. Free speech for me but not for thee, am I correct? I look forward to your appointment as an advisor to the Ministries of Truth and Love under the far-left Starmer regime.

George Orwell, himself a socialist, would be rolling in his grave.

[Juristonia]

Maybe have a Snickers.

"Far-right" my ass. If Elon Musk is "far-right", then what does that make me?

Not sure you're ready to hear the answer to that question.

[Vassenor]

Shame on Brazil. Shame on Lula and Moraes for acting like little communist dictators. The voices of the people will not be silenced. This move sets a very dangerous precedent and in the wake of this and Pavel Durov's arrest in France on trumped-up charges, VPNs are absolutely essential in this day and age. They guarantee access not just to porn, but to diverse points of view and sources of information, including the "approved" viewpoints of the ruling class of the day such as the BBC, the Obamas and Clintons and Meghan and Harry.

The only thing that's infantile and vulgar is the unprecedented crackdown on freedom of speech and political dissent in Brazil not seen since the transition to democracy in the 1980s, because dictators are infantile in their responses to criticism. Elon's only crime, like Trump's, is to rebel against his fellow elitists, hold different political views and speak truth to power. It's not as if other rich and powerful individuals who toe the progressive line such as Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos don't have their own skeletons in the closet that their peers can use to blackmail them into falling in line. I wouldn't be surprised if they're accused of some sort of sexual or financial impropriety at some point, only they'll probably get off easy because they're the Good Guys.

"Progressives" and far-leftists secretly consider the First and Second Amendments to be a roadblock to their agenda of total control and they will stop at absolutely nothing to obtain and cling onto power and lord it over the teeming masses of "far-right uneducated plebs" i.e. working-class people. They aren't even trying to hide their tyrannical motives. This has gone from "it's not happening" to "it's happening and it's a good thing". What an absolute upside-down clown world.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lon-musk-x

I swear to god why did I read this piece of pseudo-intellectual authoritarian drivel? Fuck you Jonathan Freedland. Fuck you all the way to hell with your totalitarian bullshit and your very open declaration of war on civil liberties. "Civil war is inevitable" is a perfectly sensible prediction given where Britain is currently and obviously headed, not an act of "incitement". "Information hygiene" and "online safety" my ass. X is an escape from tyrannical control freaks like you to implement your narrow elitist agenda. People aren't stupid. They don't need to be told what to think for your own selfish benefit. You are quick to blame social media just like you blamed video games, rap music, TV shows, radio programs and even books whenever things go wrong instead of blaming yourselves. You're always looking for a scapegoat to distract from your own policy failures and shirk all responsibility for making things right.

"Far-right" my ass. If Elon Musk is "far-right", then what does that make me? Exactly Jonny. You're so full of shit. We see you. Maybe we should shut down the far-left Guardian for propagating antisemitism, anti-white, anti-male and anti-Christian hate just to be consistent. We should arrest BLM, pro-Hamas and MeToo activists for their spreading disinformation and hate and scamming their supporters both online and offline. Let's see how you like to be on the receiving end. Free speech for me but not for thee, am I correct? I look forward to your appointment as an advisor to the Ministries of Truth and Love under the far-left Starmer regime.

George Orwell, himself a socialist, would be rolling in his grave.

Under Elon Musk, Twitter has approved 83% of censorship requests by authoritarian governments

But I guess it's OK if it's done in support of your ideology isn't it.

[Ifreann]

X is an escape from tyrannical control freaks like you to implement your narrow elitist agenda.

The word "cisgender" is banned on Twitter, and anyone who posts it will have their post marked as hateful content.

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Shame on Brazil. Shame on Lula and Moraes for acting like little communist dictators. The voices of the people will not be silenced. This move sets a very dangerous precedent and in the wake of this and Pavel Durov's arrest in France on trumped-up charges, VPNs are absolutely essential in this day and age. They guarantee access not just to porn, but to diverse points of view and sources of information, including the "approved" viewpoints of the ruling class of the day such as the BBC, the Obamas and Clintons and Meghan and Harry.

The only thing that's infantile and vulgar is the unprecedented crackdown on freedom of speech and political dissent in Brazil not seen since the transition to democracy in the 1980s, because dictators are infantile in their responses to criticism. Elon's only crime, like Trump's, is to rebel against his fellow elitists, hold different political views and speak truth to power. It's not as if other rich and powerful individuals who toe the progressive line such as Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos don't have their own skeletons in the closet that their peers can use to blackmail them into falling in line. I wouldn't be surprised if they're accused of some sort of sexual or financial impropriety at some point, only they'll probably get off easy because they're the Good Guys.

"Progressives" and far-leftists secretly consider the First and Second Amendments to be a roadblock to their agenda of total control and they will stop at absolutely nothing to obtain and cling onto power and lord it over the teeming masses of "far-right uneducated plebs" i.e. working-class people. They aren't even trying to hide their tyrannical motives. This has gone from "it's not happening" to "it's happening and it's a good thing". What an absolute upside-down clown world.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lon-musk-x

I swear to god why did I read this piece of pseudo-intellectual authoritarian drivel? Fuck you Jonathan Freedland. Fuck you all the way to hell with your totalitarian bullshit and your very open declaration of war on civil liberties. "Civil war is inevitable" is a perfectly sensible prediction given where Britain is currently and obviously headed, not an act of "incitement". "Information hygiene" and "online safety" my ass. X is an escape from tyrannical control freaks like you to implement your narrow elitist agenda. People aren't stupid. They don't need to be told what to think for your own selfish benefit. You are quick to blame social media just like you blamed video games, rap music, TV shows, radio programs and even books whenever things go wrong instead of blaming yourselves. You're always looking for a scapegoat to distract from your own policy failures and shirk all responsibility for making things right.

"Far-right" my ass. If Elon Musk is "far-right", then what does that make me? Exactly Jonny. You're so full of shit. We see you. Maybe we should shut down the far-left Guardian for propagating antisemitism, anti-white, anti-male and anti-Christian hate just to be consistent. We should arrest BLM, pro-Hamas and MeToo activists for their spreading disinformation and hate and scamming their supporters both online and offline. Let's see how you like to be on the receiving end. Free speech for me but not for thee, am I correct? I look forward to your appointment as an advisor to the Ministries of Truth and Love under the far-left Starmer regime.

George Orwell, himself a socialist, would be rolling in his grave.

Under Elon Musk, Twitter has approved 83% of censorship requests by authoritarian governments

But I guess it's OK if it's done in support of your ideology isn't it.

Sure is interesting that Musk will carry out censorship on behalf of Turkey and India, but when Brazil's laws require that Twitter have a legal representative in the country, as all foreign companies in Brazil must, Musk finds that unacceptable.

[Vassenor]

X is an escape from tyrannical control freaks like you to implement your narrow elitist agenda.

The word "cisgender" is banned on Twitter, and anyone who posts it will have their post marked as hateful content.

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Under Elon Musk, Twitter has approved 83% of censorship requests by authoritarian governments

But I guess it's OK if it's done in support of your ideology isn't it.

Sure is interesting that Musk will carry out censorship on behalf of Turkey and India, but when Brazil's laws require that Twitter have a legal representative in the country, as all foreign companies in Brazil must, Musk finds that unacceptable.

Wonder if this has anything to do with Brazil's lithium reserves.

[Dtn]

when Brazil's laws require that Twitter have a legal representative in the country, as all foreign companies in Brazil must, Musk finds that unacceptable.

Who is the legal representative for ns in Brazil?

[El Lazaro]

when Brazil's laws require that Twitter have a legal representative in the country, as all foreign companies in Brazil must, Musk finds that unacceptable.

Who is the legal representative for ns in Brazil?

Me, at least until Max Barry finds out and fires me. But I’m on the NS site admin payroll until then.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

The X rebranding has really not taken, so many people and other websites still calling it Twitter more than a year later.

[Saiwana]

Brazil is currently not in the right on the Twitter/X issue or dispute with Elon Musk. We're in the US considering regime change or sanctions territory here to be applied to Brazil.
Should Donald Trump win, actions should be taken by him to have Jair Bolsonaro re-installed and he will have Judge Moraes removed from his position and imprisoned if necessary.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Brazil is currently not in the right on the Twitter/X issue or dispute with Elon Musk. We're in the US considering regime change or sanctions territory here to be applied to Brazil.
Should Donald Trump win, actions should be taken by him to have Jair Bolsonaro re-installed and he will have Judge Moraes removed from his position and imprisoned if necessary.

Don't be so silly.

[Juristonia]

Brazil is currently not in the right on the Twitter/X issue or dispute with Elon Musk.

If ever there was a reason to think they were doing the right thing, this is it.

We're in the US

lol k.

considering regime change or sanctions territory here to be applied to Brazil.

"We're going to war!" "Why?" "They won't let people tweet anymore!"

Sure, Sai.

Should Donald Trump win, actions should be taken by him to have Jair Bolsonaro re-installed and he will have Judge Moraes removed from his position and imprisoned if necessary.

And fairies will sprout from my bellybutton and grant my every desire.