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Postby Christian Confederation » Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:35 pm

That time Bill Clinton survived Impeachment by one Vote not for having an affair but for lying to congress about said affair.
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Postby Space Squid » Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:41 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:That time Bill Clinton survived Impeachment by one Vote not for having an affair but for lying to congress about said affair.

Meh, the SNL Skit was funnier.
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Postby Haganham » Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:32 am

Christian Confederation wrote:That time Bill Clinton survived Impeachment by one Vote not for having an affair but for lying to congress about said affair.

actually for lying to the court(and encouraging a witness to do the same) He committed perjury in a deposition regarding his sexual harassment of his female staff.
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Postby The Selkie » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:08 am

With respect to his skill and versatility as an actor (nevermind Bridge-Player), I personally find the filmography of Omar Sharif not only respectable, but also humourous and a proof, that casting somebody because of his ethnicity is not always the best course of action.
Born to "a Melkite Catholic family of Lebanese descent, making him and his family members of the Antiochian Greek Christian minority" (to quote Wikipedia) in Alexandria, Sharif played many roles of people of Arab and Egyptian descent, Sherif Ali in Lawrence of Arabia comes to mind. He also played Genghis Khan, Ernesto Guevara, Dr. Yuri Andreyevich Zhivago, Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria, Captain Nemo, Nikolai II Alexandrovich Romanov among many other roles, which I honestly did not expect (I personally only wanted to retell about his role in Mayerling before compiling this list). He, what I didn't know before compiling this list, also appeared alongside Antonio Banderas in The 13th Warrior.
So... it puts it a bit into perspective, when people complain about Gal Gadot being casted as Cleopatra (yes, more or less current event, still funny in a dark sort of way). Sharif died in 2015 as one of the most respected actors of the 20th century with a very cool career.
Speaking of, the movies hold quite a bit of comical and fun events as well - from Mel Gibson rewriting history to accomodate his Irish extras in Braveheart to people running out of early cinemas in a panic because they thought, that the train on the screen would hit them.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:33 am

Haganham wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:That time Bill Clinton survived Impeachment by one Vote not for having an affair but for lying to congress about said affair.

actually for lying to the court(and encouraging a witness to do the same) He committed perjury in a deposition regarding his sexual harassment of his female staff.

Exactly more mad about the lying than the affair.
Almost as funny as when Britain got upset that they were the bad guys in the Patriot.
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Postby Elejamie » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:43 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Haganham wrote:actually for lying to the court(and encouraging a witness to do the same) He committed perjury in a deposition regarding his sexual harassment of his female staff.

Exactly more mad about the lying than the affair.
Almost as funny as when Britain got upset that they were the bad guys in the Patriot.


Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:57 am

Elejamie wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Exactly more mad about the lying than the affair.
Almost as funny as when Britain got upset that they were the bad guys in the Patriot.


Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.

IIRC the church burning was based on an event from WW2.

They also didn't massacre prisoners as a standard practice, that was an isolated incident where the British troops thought that the Americans shot their commander after surrendering (actually his horse just stumbled and fell) and "retaliated" without orders.
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Postby Elejamie » Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:04 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Elejamie wrote:
Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.

IIRC the church burning was based on an event from WW2.


It was.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:35 am

Elejamie wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Exactly more mad about the lying than the affair.
Almost as funny as when Britain got upset that they were the bad guys in the Patriot.


Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.


The good people of North Carolina might disagee. Though the people inside might be a stretch. Quite a few atrocities committed in the American revolutionary war. Tbf many were committed by the good guys as well.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:26 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Elejamie wrote:
Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.


The good people of North Carolina might disagee. Though the people inside might be a stretch. Quite a few atrocities committed in the American revolutionary war. Tbf many were committed by the good guys as well.

Only a war crime if you lose
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Postby Concejos Unidos » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:56 pm

Elejamie wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Exactly more mad about the lying than the affair.
Almost as funny as when Britain got upset that they were the bad guys in the Patriot.


Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.

True, the Patriots relied on a good deal of misinformation, exaggeration and anti-Catholicism or anti-Indian sentiment to spread their cause. E.g., the deeply misleading engraving of the Boston Massacre (debatably a justified shooting in the context of the times, or could also be seen as an unfortunate misunderstanding/accident), the naked anti-Catholicism of the fearmongering about the Quebec Act, etc.
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Postby Elejamie » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:12 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Elejamie wrote:
Except the thing is that The Patriot had the British as baby-eatingly evil. I don't really know much about the American Revolution other than the Boston Tea Party, George Washington crossing the Delaware, the Declaration of Independence and the fact that we lost, but I do know that the Redcoats probably didn't go as far as burning down a church with people inside.


The good people of North Carolina might disagee. Though the people inside might be a stretch. Quite a few atrocities committed in the American revolutionary war. Tbf many were committed by the good guys as well.


What happened in NC exactly? Again, I don't really know a whole lot about the American Revolution apart from the things I've mentioned (and also how the Americans invaded Whitehaven at some point because I don't live too far away from it) so there are a whole load of blanks in my understanding about the whole thing.

Also, irrelevant but I've been meaning to say this for a while, cute cat.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:23 pm

Elejamie wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The good people of North Carolina might disagee. Though the people inside might be a stretch. Quite a few atrocities committed in the American revolutionary war. Tbf many were committed by the good guys as well.


What happened in NC exactly? Again, I don't really know a whole lot about the American Revolution apart from the things I've mentioned (and also how the Americans invaded Whitehaven at some point because I don't live too far away from it) so there are a whole load of blanks in my understanding about the whole thing.

Also, irrelevant but I've been meaning to say this for a while, cute cat.

Thank you, he was a cute cat.

A lot of the battles were fought in the American south. After the battle of Monmouth the war went south to Georgia, South and North Carolina.

The particular incident was earlier in the war

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:53 pm

Elejamie wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The good people of North Carolina might disagee. Though the people inside might be a stretch. Quite a few atrocities committed in the American revolutionary war. Tbf many were committed by the good guys as well.


What happened in NC exactly? Again, I don't really know a whole lot about the American Revolution apart from the things I've mentioned (and also how the Americans invaded Whitehaven at some point because I don't live too far away from it) so there are a whole load of blanks in my understanding about the whole thing.

Also, irrelevant but I've been meaning to say this for a while, cute cat.

British Army would come marching through and burn Patriots' stuff because it's contraband, meanwhile local paramilitary forces on both sides would roam the countryside and straight-up murder local inhabitants who belonged to the other side.

Think of it as being like the Troubles.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:27 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Elejamie wrote:
What happened in NC exactly? Again, I don't really know a whole lot about the American Revolution apart from the things I've mentioned (and also how the Americans invaded Whitehaven at some point because I don't live too far away from it) so there are a whole load of blanks in my understanding about the whole thing.

Also, irrelevant but I've been meaning to say this for a while, cute cat.

British Army would come marching through and burn Patriots' stuff because it's contraband, meanwhile local paramilitary forces on both sides would roam the countryside and straight-up murder local inhabitants who belonged to the other side.

Think of it as being like the Troubles.

But the Troubles was Ira car bombs and shootingst Assassinations
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:36 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:British Army would come marching through and burn Patriots' stuff because it's contraband, meanwhile local paramilitary forces on both sides would roam the countryside and straight-up murder local inhabitants who belonged to the other side.

Think of it as being like the Troubles.

But the Troubles was Ira car bombs and shootingst Assassinations

I mean in the general sense that the atrocities are being committed by local paramilitary extremists, and while the army is clearly on the side of one of those groups their actions aren't nearly as bad.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:48 am

Nothing being talked about right now is particularly funny.

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Postby Skelly Man Dan » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:51 pm

Carrie Nation, an American suffragette and Temperance advocate (the two often went hand in hand in the late 1800s/early 1900s USA) made a name for herself by going into saloons and destroying their equipment with a hatchet, an act which she referred to as a "hatchetation."

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Postby Concejos Unidos » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:22 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:But the Troubles was Ira car bombs and shootingst Assassinations

It's important to remember that the Troubles was also Unionist paramilitaries, who could be just as brutal and violent as the IRA ever were. For example, the Kelley's Bar bombing, when the UVF killed 3 by bombing a pub in a nationalist area without warning. The bomb, the following UVF sniper fire on survivors and rescuers, and two days of UVF, IRA and British Army gunfights in the area, injured 66 and 7 more were killed in the violence after the bomb. As memory serves, this was one of the bloodiest incidents of the Troubles.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:15 pm

Concejos Unidos wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:But the Troubles was Ira car bombs and shootingst Assassinations

It's important to remember that the Troubles was also Unionist paramilitaries, who could be just as brutal and violent as the IRA ever were. For example, the Kelley's Bar bombing, when the UVF killed 3 by bombing a pub in a nationalist area without warning. The bomb, the following UVF sniper fire on survivors and rescuers, and two days of UVF, IRA and British Army gunfights in the area, injured 66 and 7 more were killed in the violence after the bomb. As memory serves, this was one of the bloodiest incidents of the Troubles.

Overall Occupied Ireland was not a fun place to be in those days.

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Postby The Selkie » Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:28 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:[...]
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Guys, plural - eight people in total.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:13 am

Heloin wrote:Nothing being talked about right now is particularly funny.


No, it isn't, is it?

I've been considering for some time renaming this thread 'random one-sentence historical observations' since most active participants seem to have rather missed the point of the thread.

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Postby Elejamie » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:00 am

Heloin wrote:Nothing being talked about right now is particularly funny.


Agreed. Let's get back on track.

Anyway, while I'm not sure if it's been talked about before (and it probably comes across as more mildly amusing than outright funny), there's the legend that is Andrew Jackson's parrot Poll, who had to be kicked out of his funeral because it wouldn't stop swearing.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:04 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Heloin wrote:Nothing being talked about right now is particularly funny.


No, it isn't, is it?

I've been considering for some time renaming this thread 'random one-sentence historical observations' since most active participants seem to have rather missed the point of the thread.


Hey, I gave you God, the Bible, and hemmeroids, I dont know how anyone could top that.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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