Swedish Riots

[Alcala-Cordel]

Correct me if I’m wrong… but you want to stop these riots by agreeing to their demands?

Mostly by making them adopt either Christianity or Irreligion or getting kicked out.

Like we do in Greece to the Immigrants.

Because moral issyes aside, forced conversion to a different religion is a great way to get people to love you.

Do you hear yourself? The hypocricy of christians acting like their religion is somehow better is on full display.

Just kettle the protesters and arrest them en masse. Use tear gas if you have to. If they don't have legal residency in Sweden, deport them and ban them from reentering.

Problem solved.

Because police brutality never backfires. Y'all are terrible at solving problems

[Senkaku]

Honestly the main issue in terms of monoculturalism in Sweden I see is letting in all these fucking Danes and letting them stir shit up, not Arabs or Africans or Muslims. First they dismember Swedish journalists on their submarines, now they’re moving in and leading riots? Denmark can get bent; why don’t they just keep sublimating all their creepy murderous Viking impulses into making Copenhagen even more walkable or whatever.

[Ayytaly]

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-quran-burning-threat-by-far-right-triggers-3-nights-of-violence-2022-4

A demonstration planned by Stram Kurs, a Danish far-right party, which threatened to burn the Quran, had to be moved to the Swedish city of Malmo after protesters threw stones and set tires and cars on fire, AP reports.

Announcing the move, Stram Kurs' party leader Rasmus Paludan wrote on Facebook that it was "time to burn the Quran" and that they would bring "pork blood" to pour over the holy text.

Paludan, a 40-year-old Danish lawyer with Swedish citizenship, set up Stram Kurs, or Hard Line, in 2017 with an anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim agenda and advocates banning Islam and the mass deportation of "non-Western" people.

A statement from police outlining Saturday night's events said riot police were pelted with stones.

One protester drove a car at riot police. The driver was arrested and is being investigated for attempted murder, Swedish news outlet Svenska Dagbladet said.

Early on Saturday, Kim Hild, spokeswoman for police in southern Sweden, said the threshold for denying free speech was high, and permission would not be withdrawn for the anti-Muslim demonstrations, AP reports.

Protests have been held across the country since Thursday, including in the capital city of Stockholm and other towns where Srtam Kurs planned to hold rallies, Swedish news reports.

On Thursday, police equipment was stolen, and Friday saw at least ten police officers injured in the violence.

So like when are people gonna realise multiculturalism is stupid and we go back to sensible monoculturalism?

>monoculturalism

Lapplanders say hi

[Frisemark]

Honestly the main issue in terms of monoculturalism in Sweden I see is letting in all these fucking Danes and letting them stir shit up, not Arabs or Africans or Muslims. First they dismember Swedish journalists on their submarines, now they’re moving in and leading riots? Denmark can get bent; why don’t they just keep sublimating all their creepy murderous Viking impulses into making Copenhagen even more walkable or whatever.

Gotta take back Skåne somehow

[The Alma Mater]

Mostly by making them adopt either Christianity or Irreligion or getting kicked out.

Like we do in Greece to the Immigrants.

Because moral issyes aside, forced conversion to a different religion is a great way to get people to love you.

Should we want people to love us for burning their holy books ?

[Senkaku]

Honestly the main issue in terms of monoculturalism in Sweden I see is letting in all these fucking Danes and letting them stir shit up, not Arabs or Africans or Muslims. First they dismember Swedish journalists on their submarines, now they’re moving in and leading riots? Denmark can get bent; why don’t they just keep sublimating all their creepy murderous Viking impulses into making Copenhagen even more walkable or whatever.

Gotta take back Skåne somehow

Honestly, maybe they need to get the bomb after all; the Russians may not be much of a threat after this year, but clearly Sweden will need to deter the Danish menace for the foreseeable future

[Nilokeras]

Correct me if I’m wrong… but you want to stop these riots by agreeing to their demands?

Mostly by making them adopt either Christianity or Irreligion or getting kicked out.

Like we do in Greece to the Immigrants.

lol at holding up Greece as a model for good governance/a healthy society

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

I don’t understand how the conclusion in the original post logically follows from the text of the quoted article.

Anti-immigration activists are rioting, and therefore multiculturalism is bad?

There seems to be a missing Step 2 in that argument.

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Anyways. I agree with the stance of the Swedish police. Free public demonstrations are an essential part of the democratic decision-making process. Those who violated the law should be duly punished, and everyone else can go back to racial stereotyping or internet rumourmongering or whatever else it is that Stram Kurs supporters do on their free time.

[The Alma Mater]

I don’t understand how the conclusion in the original post logically follows from the text of the quoted article.

Anti-immigration activists are rioting, and therefore multiculturalism is bad?

There seems to be a missing Step 2 in that argument.

They believe there would be no discord in a mono-culture. Which history has shown us is simply not true; yet is still a popular belief nowadays.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

They believe there would be no discord in a mono-culture. Which history has shown us is simply not true; yet is still a popular belief nowadays.

Ah. I see.

The obvious retort to this sort of nonsense, then, is that there is no such thing as a “monoculture”. Identities only form when there is a not-us, an outgroup, to form one against.

I recall reading a commentary by a polite Dutch gentleman that he sees all this talk about race on the news, but he rarely thinks of himself as white because he lives in a small rural town and everyone he interacts with on a daily basis is white. Whiteness doesn’t matter to him because it doesn’t serve to distinguish anyone from anyone else. It is far more relevant to him what religion someone is, because with Protestant, Catholic, and non-religious residents, that is the meaningful identity that separates people in his town from others.

“White” only became a meaningful identity once people had reasons to think about non-white people often, and it will assuredly disappear once people stop having reasons to think about non-white people often. I mean, case in point, three generations ago Germans didn’t have a very complimentary policy against the Poles and three before that Prussians didn’t have a very complimentary opinion about Bavarians.

Heck, if you have an hour to spare, google “minimal group paradigm” sometime.

[Duvniask]

I don’t understand how the conclusion in the original post logically follows from the text of the quoted article.

Anti-immigration activists are rioting, and therefore multiculturalism is bad?

There seems to be a missing Step 2 in that argument.

The rioters are Muslim immigrants (at least in part?) reacting against the symbolically anti-immigrant acts of Stram Kurs, not the other way around.

[Vassenor]

I don’t understand how the conclusion in the original post logically follows from the text of the quoted article.

Anti-immigration activists are rioting, and therefore multiculturalism is bad?

There seems to be a missing Step 2 in that argument.

The rioters are Muslim immigrants (at least in part?) reacting against the symbolically anti-immigrant acts of Stram Kurs, not the other way around.

OK, so because immigrants protested against a group trying to incite against them therefore multicultualism is bad?

Because I'm failing to see what purpose publicly burning books holds otherwise.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

The rioters are Muslim immigrants (at least in part?) reacting against the symbolically anti-immigrant acts of Stram Kurs, not the other way around.

Oh, I see that I’ve badly misread the article. My bad.

[The Holy Therns]

Love the fact that a Danish party comes here to complain about people coming here being chaotic, to provoke people into being chaotic.

Apparently it didn't take a whole lot to turn people into a rabid mob out for blood.

A foreign party coming across the border to hold a public symbolic action with the specific intention of pissing people off seems a little specific, hardly a sign multiculturalism is bad if you have to actively and intentionally provoke violence.

[Duvniask]

The rioters are Muslim immigrants (at least in part?) reacting against the symbolically anti-immigrant acts of Stram Kurs, not the other way around.

OK, so because immigrants protested against a group trying to incite against them therefore multicultualism is bad?

Because I'm failing to see what purpose publicly burning books holds otherwise.

Why does it seem like you're attributing this argument to me when I'm only explaining what the fuck is going on?

But let's go with it then, homie. I have no sympathy for these people burning the town down and getting others hurt because someone decided to burn their story of fables (and as far as I know didn't even go through with it), irrespective of any motive Rasmus Paludan had in mind.

[Engadine Mcdonalds 1997]

Lmao yeah, "Let's ban Muslims from our country if they refuse to 'assimilate', that totally wont backfire on us and give legitimacy to the terrorists". Do you want more terrorist attacks and an increase in Islamic radicalisation? Because this is exactly how you do so. Because before the radicals would have looked like a bunch of whack jobs making shit up like the American Evangelicals, but by cracking down you give these groups legitimate grievances against the state and its people. Just look at Israel and Palestine with Hamas, if the Israelis weren't actively displacing and performing a genocide against the Palestinians then Hamas would have no 'ammunition' so-to-speak. But guess what? The Israelis are actively displacing and enacting a genocide against the Palestinians, so now Hamas has (from the Palestinian perspective) legitimate points against one of the only Jewish nations on the globe.

[James_xenoland]

Only forced assimilation is the solution but in Liberal Societies that is obviously a no-no

[Republic Of Ludwigsburg]

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-quran-burning-threat-by-far-right-triggers-3-nights-of-violence-2022-4

A demonstration planned by Stram Kurs, a Danish far-right party, which threatened to burn the Quran, had to be moved to the Swedish city of Malmo after protesters threw stones and set tires and cars on fire, AP reports.

Announcing the move, Stram Kurs' party leader Rasmus Paludan wrote on Facebook that it was "time to burn the Quran" and that they would bring "pork blood" to pour over the holy text.

Paludan, a 40-year-old Danish lawyer with Swedish citizenship, set up Stram Kurs, or Hard Line, in 2017 with an anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim agenda and advocates banning Islam and the mass deportation of "non-Western" people.

A statement from police outlining Saturday night's events said riot police were pelted with stones.

One protester drove a car at riot police. The driver was arrested and is being investigated for attempted murder, Swedish news outlet Svenska Dagbladet said.

Early on Saturday, Kim Hild, spokeswoman for police in southern Sweden, said the threshold for denying free speech was high, and permission would not be withdrawn for the anti-Muslim demonstrations, AP reports.

Protests have been held across the country since Thursday, including in the capital city of Stockholm and other towns where Srtam Kurs planned to hold rallies, Swedish news reports.

On Thursday, police equipment was stolen, and Friday saw at least ten police officers injured in the violence.

So like when are people gonna realise multiculturalism is stupid and we go back to sensible monoculturalism?

Even when violent riots are happening, Identitarians still manage to slip in "immy bad white evropan gud"

[Duvniask]

Apparently it didn't take a whole lot to turn people into a rabid mob out for blood.

A foreign party coming across the border to hold a public symbolic action with the specific intention of pissing people off seems a little specific, hardly a sign multiculturalism is bad if you have to actively and intentionally provoke violence.

Yet I fail to see where that means it's okay to attack unrelated people, let alone attack anyone. Religious zealotry is bad mm'kay?

And yes, I understand that riots have more complex causes than the mere catalyst, which in this case was an action intended to piss people off. These may well be people not living the easiest of lives. Should that keep us from seeing this as the utterly insane zealotry and over-reaction that it is?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Criminal gangs take any opportunity to attack the police. Essentially unemployed Danish guy who looks like the sort Hitler would've described as an Untermensch comes here to stir shit up.
Meanwhile does bears shit in woods?

[The Alma Mater]

The rioters are Muslim immigrants (at least in part?) reacting against the symbolically anti-immigrant acts of Stram Kurs, not the other way around.

OK, so because immigrants protested against a group trying to incite against them therefore multicultualism is bad?

Because I'm failing to see what purpose publicly burning books holds otherwise.

Does that mean that republicans and christians burning books do so "because they want to incite other groups" and not out of a genuine belief the books are bad and harmful ?

[Vassenor]

OK, so because immigrants protested against a group trying to incite against them therefore multicultualism is bad?

Because I'm failing to see what purpose publicly burning books holds otherwise.

Does that mean that republicans and christians burning books do so "because they want to incite other groups" and not out of a genuine belief the books are bad and harmful ?

When has book-burning ever been motivated by something other than hate?

[Republic Of Ludwigsburg]

Mostly by making them adopt either Christianity or Irreligion or getting kicked out.

Like we do in Greece to the Immigrants.

Because moral issyes aside, forced conversion to a different religion is a great way to get people to love you.

Do you hear yourself? The hypocricy of christians acting like their religion is somehow better is on full display.

Because police brutality never backfires. Y'all are terrible at solving problems

"Thessalonians 5:15, God says, "See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people.""
Galations 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Don't group in Christians with bigots.

[Vassenor]

On that note is forced conversion still considered to be genocide / ethnic cleansing?

[Alcala-Cordel]

Because moral issyes aside, forced conversion to a different religion is a great way to get people to love you.

Do you hear yourself? The hypocricy of christians acting like their religion is somehow better is on full display.

Because police brutality never backfires. Y'all are terrible at solving problems

"Thessalonians 5:15, God says, "See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people.""
Galations 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Don't group in Christians with bigots.

You're right. It's fundamentalists that do this, and they're not exactly known for paying much attention to what the bible actually says.