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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:32 am

The H Corporation wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Progressively like we did to the Albanians in Greece and we are trying to do with the rest of new migrants.

Wouldn't it be better if we teach the different communities to just get along with each other? Doing that will create more divide between them

Did you know that Albanians in Greece which are in the Majority Muslim eat pork and Drink Alcohol with them Generally being faithless non practising Muslims?

How we the Greeks even with our differences are pretty okay with them? My solution is proven your solution on the other hand is iffy.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:32 am

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Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Your way would create even more conflict. And it is horrible. So you would support Syria booting out all non-Muslims?


Aren’t Muslims like 85% of Syria’s population.

Yes. Why? I said non-muslims
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Postby Free Hyperborea 2 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:32 am

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Once they themselves become victims of terrorism and violence at the hands of poor, innocent rapefugees and immigrants who refuse to assimilate to the new country they’re in yet beg for a better life.

You do know not everyone is rapist and murderer right? it is simply that their culture is antithetical with western culture and we can't have them dictate to us what must be done.


I know.We must remain in control and do a better job of vetting people.

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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:34 am

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Asherahan wrote:That is the thing though they always make ghettos of their own monoculture the only real solution in my opinion is to progressively assimilate them first by educating and baptising their children then letting the adults die off naturally.


Assimilation through education and other such polite methods, absolutely.

From the part that I've put in bold there, would I be correct in suggesting that you support forcing Christianity, Agnosticism or perhaps even Atheism upon immigrants as a condition of residence in a country?

Obviously 100% if citizenship is to be given but not on board for residency at that point might well close the border.
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Postby Vivolkha » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:35 am

Just kettle the protesters and arrest them en masse. Use tear gas if you have to. If they don't have legal residency in Sweden, deport them and ban them from reentering.

Problem solved.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:35 am

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The H Corporation wrote:Wouldn't it be better if we teach the different communities to just get along with each other? Doing that will create more divide between them

Did you know that Albanians in Greece which are in the Majority Muslim eat pork and Drink Alcohol with them Generally being faithless non practising Muslims?

How we the Greeks even with our differences are pretty okay with them? My solution is proven your solution on the other hand is iffy.

You know, some Muslims who don’t eat pork and don’t drink alcohol also have good relations with their neighbours. Your arguments are ridiculous and completely ineffective
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Postby Kubra » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:37 am

Riots? In Europe??????
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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:37 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Did you know that Albanians in Greece which are in the Majority Muslim eat pork and Drink Alcohol with them Generally being faithless non practising Muslims?

How we the Greeks even with our differences are pretty okay with them? My solution is proven your solution on the other hand is iffy.

You know, some Muslims who don’t eat pork and don’t drink alcohol also have good relations with their neighbours. Your arguments are ridiculous and completely ineffective

In which country do said Muslims live?
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Postby The H Corporation » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:37 am

Asherahan wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:Wouldn't it be better if we teach the different communities to just get along with each other? Doing that will create more divide between them

Did you know that Albanians in Greece which are in the Majority Muslim eat pork and Drink Alcohol with them Generally being faithless non practising Muslims?

How we the Greeks even with our differences are pretty okay with them? My solution is proven your solution on the other hand is iffy.

So what? Muslims who don't eat pork can get along with other people. Your argument does not prove anything at all
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:37 am

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Islamic Holy Sites wrote:You know, some Muslims who don’t eat pork and don’t drink alcohol also have good relations with their neighbours. Your arguments are ridiculous and completely ineffective

In which country do said Muslims live?

The UK.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:38 am

Asherahan wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:That would only make things worse, and how do you plan on assimilating every single culture/religion?

Progressively like we did to the Albanians in Greece and we are trying to do with the rest of new migrants.

Or kinda like the Byzantine Empire did with Greece.

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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:38 am

Esternial wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Progressively like we did to the Albanians in Greece and we are trying to do with the rest of new migrants.

Or kinda like the Byzantine Empire did with Greece.

We make the our Roman and Greek forefathers proud.
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Postby The H Corporation » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:39 am

Asherahan wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:You know, some Muslims who don’t eat pork and don’t drink alcohol also have good relations with their neighbours. Your arguments are ridiculous and completely ineffective

In which country do said Muslims live?

In like... anywhere?
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:39 am

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Esternial wrote:Or kinda like the Byzantine Empire did with Greece.

We make the our Roman and Greek forefathers proud.

Like, the Romans who sold a city into slavery?
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Postby Asardia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:41 am

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Asardia wrote:I swear this very event happened a few years ago. Is it deja vu?



Excuse me?


He’s right is it failing on a massive scale in Europe.I dont care if it creates new jobs and brings great cuisine that’s not worth it for all the lives lost on the altar of multiculturalism,diversity, and inclusion.How many people will have to die before this is out to an end.


I disagree. Diversity isn't the issue here. It's like kicking out all black people from the US as a result of the 2020 riots. The problem is that these groups are too isolated from the rest of the country. In the US, for example, we don't have religious riots like these. Despite being a massively diverse nation. If the US can have many different groups who are relatively amicable with each other, it stands to reason that other countries can do the same.
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Postby Vivolkha » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:41 am

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Esternial wrote:Or kinda like the Byzantine Empire did with Greece.

We make the our Roman and Greek forefathers proud.

Why do we even have to? I mean let's be honest they're dead anyway
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Postby Free Hyperborea 2 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:42 am

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He’s right is it failing on a massive scale in Europe.I dont care if it creates new jobs and brings great cuisine that’s not worth it for all the lives lost on the altar of multiculturalism,diversity, and inclusion.How many people will have to die before this is out to an end.

Give me an example about how multiculturalism has killed people on a large scale.


Look at the increase of terrorism and violent crime in Europe in the past decade or so.The vast majority of the perpetrators have been immigrants or the offspring of immigrants in European countries.And of course almost all of them come from North Africa or the Middle East.And when talking about crime in general just take a look at the insane increase in rape in Europe,specifically in the UK and Sweden where ther e have been literal grooming gangs victimizing thousands of girls for years.Hate crimes motivated by anti-Semitism and homophobia have risen dramatically as well which shows that there attitudes don’t change when they relocate.We have seen historically what Islam has done to Europe and all the death and destruction it has wrought.At the end of the day most of these people have no goal to assimilate and respect the existing culture and people of the country they’re in,but seek to subvert and replace the population,culture,and nations of Europe with there own.I’m not saying we have to end immigration but it needs to be stricter(quotas,background checks,IQ tests,)and assimilation needs to be encouraged by the government.

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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:42 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Asherahan wrote:In which country do said Muslims live?

The UK.

In the UK? I don't believe ya.
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Postby Kubra » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:43 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Asherahan wrote:In which country do said Muslims live?

The UK.
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Postby Elwher » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:43 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Did you know that Albanians in Greece which are in the Majority Muslim eat pork and Drink Alcohol with them Generally being faithless non practising Muslims?

How we the Greeks even with our differences are pretty okay with them? My solution is proven your solution on the other hand is iffy.

You know, some Muslims who don’t eat pork and don’t drink alcohol also have good relations with their neighbours. Your arguments are ridiculous and completely ineffective


I have no problem with those who do not eat pork or drink alcohol; that leaves all the more for me. :roll:
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Postby Esternial » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:43 am

Asherahan wrote:
Esternial wrote:Or kinda like the Byzantine Empire did with Greece.

We make the our Roman and Greek forefathers proud.

Or Persian, who really knows who your forefather are? Greece had quite a lot of cultures before it apparently rebranded itself as a monoculture.

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Postby The H Corporation » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:44 am

Esternial wrote:
Asherahan wrote:We make the our Roman and Greek forefathers proud.

Or Persian, who really knows who your forefather are? Greece had quite a lot of cultures before it apparently rebranded itself as a monoculture.

What they didn't know is that they are Macedonian
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Postby Pulsroth » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:44 am

Vivolkha wrote:Just kettle the protesters and arrest them en masse. Use tear gas if you have to. If they don't have legal residency in Sweden, deport them and ban them from reentering.

Problem solved.


Absolutely wouldn't support what you're suggesting here against protesters. Of course, these are quite clearly rioters we're talking about (despite what the AP seem to suggest) So with that in mind, I agree.

Can't see any reason not to agree with your latter point either.
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Postby Asherahan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:44 am

Asardia wrote:
Free Hyperborea 2 wrote:
He’s right is it failing on a massive scale in Europe.I dont care if it creates new jobs and brings great cuisine that’s not worth it for all the lives lost on the altar of multiculturalism,diversity, and inclusion.How many people will have to die before this is out to an end.


I disagree. Diversity isn't the issue here. It's like kicking out all black people from the US as a result of the 2020 riots. The problem is that these groups are too isolated from the rest of the country. In the US, for example, we don't have religious riots like these. Despite being a massively diverse nation. If the US can have many different groups who are relatively amicable with each other, it stands to reason that other countries can do the same.

In the US your all Christians with just different denominations why would you have religious riots?

You yourself said you have race riots so imagine when you add another layer of complexity with religion on top of that.
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Postby Free Hyperborea 2 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:44 am

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Aren’t Muslims like 85% of Syria’s population.

Yes. Why? I said non-muslims


Oh sorry.No because it seems to be working there.And for the record I don’t think any country in Europe should deport Muslims en masse.We just need to deport criminals and ones with violent pasts and have quotas for different countries.And I think that if they want to work and engage in society they should be heavily encouraged to learn the language of whatever country they’re in and assimilate as best they can.

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