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Postby Ryadn » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:16 pm

God damn it, are those liberal bastards letting people think for themselves again?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:25 pm

Ryadn wrote:God damn it, are those liberal bastards letting people think for themselves again?


us moderates like free thinking as well. as do most republicans capable of individual thought. it is mostly just the extreme right wing and extreme left wing robots who want to inhibite any thought that contradicts their dogmatic interpretation of the world.

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Postby Exilia and Colonies » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:28 pm

Library contains books which offend some peoples worldviews shocker.

Also Librarys only for Children fallacy while we're at it.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:37 pm

Exilia and Colonies wrote:Library contains books which offend some peoples worldviews shocker.

Also Librarys only for Children fallacy while we're at it.


Didn't you get the memo? Everyone else is supposed to sacrifice all their freedom for the "sake of the children." After all, "think of the children" is the most logically sound argument ever and is not emotionally manipulative at all.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:40 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Exilia and Colonies wrote:Library contains books which offend some peoples worldviews shocker.

Also Librarys only for Children fallacy while we're at it.


Didn't you get the memo? Everyone else is supposed to sacrifice all their freedom for the "sake of the children." After all, "think of the children" is the most logically sound argument ever and is not emotionally manipulative at all.


I, as a general rule, just want to smack some sense into anybody who uses the phrase "think of the children", because it usually can be translated into "We want the children to think like we do".
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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:48 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Exilia and Colonies wrote:Library contains books which offend some peoples worldviews shocker.

Also Librarys only for Children fallacy while we're at it.

Didn't you get the memo? Everyone else is supposed to sacrifice all their freedom for the "sake of the children." After all, "think of the children" is the most logically sound argument ever and is not emotionally manipulative at all.

I, as a general rule, just want to smack some sense into anybody who uses the phrase "think of the children", because it usually can be translated into "We want the children to think like we do".

Seconded. *nods*

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Postby New Limacon » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:52 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Knowledge is Power, and banning the means to that knowledge allows for better control of the resulting sheep.

Hmm, you lose points for comparing people to sheep. I don't know why, but that analogy bugs me to no end. (Still not as bad as "sheeple," though. *shudder*)
But yes, your actual point is absolutely correct. If people were really concerned about the children, it shouldn't be too difficult for them, as thinking adults, to help the children understand what they read, and maybe even explain why it's wrong.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:00 pm

New Limacon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Knowledge is Power, and banning the means to that knowledge allows for better control of the resulting sheep.

Hmm, you lose points for comparing people to sheep. I don't know why, but that analogy bugs me to no end. (Still not as bad as "sheeple," though. *shudder*)
But yes, your actual point is absolutely correct. If people were really concerned about the children, it shouldn't be too difficult for them, as thinking adults, to help the children understand what they read, and maybe even explain why it's wrong.

fine. "lemmings" then.
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Postby New Limacon » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:05 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:fine. "lemmings" then.

That's better. And actually, more apt than you may think, because while lemmings don't naturally commit mass suicide, they were forced to by the Walt Disney Corporation, much like people today.
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Postby Enphos » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:07 pm

New Limacon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:fine. "lemmings" then.

That's better. And actually, more apt than you may think, because while lemmings don't naturally commit mass suicide, they were forced to by the Walt Disney Corporation, much like people today.


:eyebrow: Disney forces people to commit suicide?

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:21 pm

Enphos wrote:
New Limacon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:fine. "lemmings" then.

That's better. And actually, more apt than you may think, because while lemmings don't naturally commit mass suicide, they were forced to by the Walt Disney Corporation, much like people today.


:eyebrow: Disney forces people to commit suicide?


Yes. They utilize an insidious device that forces anybody with functioning brain cells to run screaming...even off of cliffs if necessary. They call it, 'Hannah Montana'. *nod*
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Postby New Limacon » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:23 pm

Enphos wrote:
New Limacon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:fine. "lemmings" then.

That's better. And actually, more apt than you may think, because while lemmings don't naturally commit mass suicide, they were forced to by the Walt Disney Corporation, much like people today.


:eyebrow: Disney forces people to commit suicide?

Yes. Well, not exactly. Okay, no. But people aren't really lemmings, either. It's a metaphor. For what, I don't know, but I'm hoping you'll ignore that.
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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:27 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Enphos wrote:
New Limacon wrote:That's better. And actually, more apt than you may think, because while lemmings don't naturally commit mass suicide, they were forced to by the Walt Disney Corporation, much like people today.

:eyebrow: Disney forces people to commit suicide?

Yes. They utilize an insidious device that forces anybody with functioning brain cells to run screaming...even off of cliffs if necessary. They call it, 'Hannah Montana'. *nod*

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Postby Enphos » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:29 pm

New Limacon wrote:Yes. Well, not exactly. Okay, no. But people aren't really lemmings, either. It's a metaphor. For what, I don't know, but I'm hoping you'll ignore that.


I understood that, sorry It's difficult to convey sarcasm in text. ;)

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Postby Mirkana » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:39 pm

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Postby NERVUN » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:42 pm

Yea for the ALA!

If I may borrow from that rather idiotic article CPed by the OP, as an educator and a parent, we need to do our utmost to support our local libraries and make damn well sure that no books are kept off the shelf!
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Postby Vetalia » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:43 pm

Call me old fashioned but I figured you had to choose whether or not to read books...
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:45 pm

Vetalia wrote:Call me old fashioned but I figured you had to choose whether or not to read books...

You kids and your new hippie ideas...

The Moral Church Leaders and Government officials are the only ones with the ability to make sure you choose books you can handle...

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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:47 pm

After reading that e-mail I can only say one thing about the ALA.

I fully support them in every way now.
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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:49 pm

L3 Communications wrote:After reading that e-mail I can only say one thing about the ALA.

I fully support them in every way now.

That's the spirit! :hug:

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:55 pm

If the ALA caved to every special interest group with a list of books they don't like, pretty soon the only thing on library shelves would be dust.
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Postby Exilia and Colonies » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:52 am

Grays Harbor wrote:If the ALA caved to every special interest group with a list of books they don't like, pretty soon the only thing on library shelves would be dust.


Obviously you underestimate the powerful anti-dust lobby and its backing from the Union of Library Janitors.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:54 am

because reading is evil
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Postby Pope Lando II » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:12 am

Haha. Libraries are the new target for fundamentalists, then? I've never been so proud to be an ALA member. :lol: The content of public libraries necessarily varies from one service area to another, but I've honestly never seen anything objectionable in any library I've ever been to, nor in five years of part-time stack/circulation work done during my high school and college years. It's a made-up controversy.

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Postby SaintB » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:16 am

Pope Lando II wrote:It's a made-up controversy.

As are most of the controversies opposed by the extreme right.
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