The ALA is hurting our children

[Conserative Morality]

Supporting the First Amendment in the face of the fundies admitted position is Hate Speech now?

[Desperate Measures]

In the history of literature, this is the only book that maybe MAYBE should be banned: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/223 ... 1b.jpg?v=0

Gross.

[Jimanistan]

Kids should be able to read whatever they want, the fact that they're American and interested in reading should put them on a higher mental tier than a lot of adults I've met...

[Ashmoria]

i thought the library was a safe place to go but its not apparentely.

fucking librarians and their 'freedom' and 'knowledge'. don't they know that it is only when we restrict freedom and promote ignorance that we can truly thrive?!

but they promost hate speaches. did you know that the N word is in most of the challenged books? kids today woldn't eve know that word if the librarians werent' trying to teach it to them.

librarians are not teachers and they arent babysitters.

if a parent has a problem with the content of certain books they need to be there with their children to make sure that they dont look at that book. its not the librarian's job to know each parent's prefernce and keep those children away from certain books.

[Grays Harbor]

i got this eamil and so i looked it up and its true!

what do you think about this? i thought the library was a safe place to go but its not apparentely.

As the author, Scarlett Mcnspire firmly held views, and fundamentalists have sought to silence the opposition. Fundamentalists are, by definition, intolerant of other views. Their lives are dominated by their religion. TcGwire, puts it, "Throughout the [twentieth] century, religious matters have continued to ihey believe that their religion is the only religion and that they are the only true followers of God."

isnt it hate speach the bolded part?

Umm, no. A bit narrowly focused on the authors part, perhaps, but hate speach? I don't think so.

Myself, I am all manner of in favor of kids reading, and in them getting a well rounded reading regimen. The only books I would be in favor of banning and/or limiting would be things on "How to make nuclear weapons from Home Depot parts" and books extolling the virtues of pedophelia. Other than that, not so much with book banning.

In fact, I am all sorts of happy about the ALA and their reading programs. Allowing one special interest group to determine what can and cannot be read is the true danger here, not the ALA encouraging kids to expand their minds.

[Pantera]

but they promost hate speaches. did you know that the N word is in most of the challenged books? kids today woldn't eve know that word if the librarians werent' trying to teach it to them.

I missed this part on my first round. HAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? The 'N word' is only still around because it's taught by librarians? Really? This is REALLY what you think? Hahahahahahahahahhhahaha.

Turn on your radio. Or television. I'm sure that the seedy underbelly of the librarian world is corrupt and black as sin, with coke and hookers and activities of heonous depravity and filth going on behind every NonFiction bookcase, but you can't lay that at their feet mate.

Thanks for making me giggle, though. Good stuff.

[Bluth Corporation]

No need to mock and belittle...it does nothing to advance the argument, and only alienates the initial poster who might otherwise have been open to having his mind changed.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

i thought the library was a safe place to go but its not apparentely.

fucking librarians and their 'freedom' and 'knowledge'. don't they know that it is only when we restrict freedom and promote ignorance that we can truly thrive?!

but they promost hate speaches. did you know that the N word is in most of the challenged books? kids today woldn't eve know that word if the librarians werent' trying to teach it to them.

Yeah, cuz' no black rappers or other black celebrities every use that word. No, it must be from books, because, you know, kids today are such avid readers.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Are you pro-censorship?

do you beleive in hate speach?

Saying that homophobes are ignorant is hate speech? How goddamn ironic! So when these bigots condemn homosexuals as dirty perverted sinners, that's free speech, but if you call them out on their bigotry, that's hate speech. I call bullshit.

[JarVik]

As the author, Scarlett Mcnspire firmly held views, and fundamentalists have sought to silence the opposition. Fundamentalists are, by definition, intolerant of other views. Their lives are dominated by their religion. TcGwire, puts it, "Throughout the [twentieth] century, religious matters have continued to ihey believe that their religion is the only religion and that they are the only true followers of God."

isnt it hate speach the bolded part?

Nope., for one its a fair description of reality. Its one individual, not the ALA who is exercising their right to free speach, and the author is not advocated violence or anything else towards the fundies. I might add, publicly advocating violence or hoping God does something nasty to others is not exactly a rare thing for fundies to do.

So unless you think fundies have the right to oppress, silence and burn the voices of others I don't see how this is hate speach. It's not like he said people should burn fundy bookshops are attack the person or property of fundies. That would be hate speach.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

I've seen lists of Banned Books that included Flowers for Algernon and Huckleberry Finn. HAH! What the fuck people? Flowers for Algernon? While it's a strange little story, I don't really see anything questionable in it. It's damn sure no Mein Kampf (which is also available at most public libraries, from what I've seen).

ALA gets a thumbs up from me for telling censors to cram it in their asses.

Libraries can, however, be grounds for perverts and weirdo's who jerkoff at the public web terminals. I remember some sort of Dateline or something where they caught this guy rocking the porn and stroking himself and then the reporter pretty much chased the guy out of the library and down the street a mile or two, heckling him for being a pervert. Hahahahahaa. So, if there's a reason to fear libraries, it's for the public masturbators and creepy old ladies handing out 'Queers Burn in HELL' tracts. Not books on homosexuality, for or against.

They probably ban Huck Finn because it contains the dreaded, gasp, "N WORD!" Oh noes, not that. You know, the word which, if uttered will cause baby Jesus to cry and will rend asunder the souls of children?

[Vanishing_shame]

Are you pro-censorship?

do you beleive in hate speach?

Saying that homophobes are ignorant is hate speech? How goddamn ironic! So when these bigots condemn homosexuals as dirty perverted sinners, that's free speech, but if you call them out on their bigotry, that's hate speech. I call bullshit.

i was told that calling homos sick was hate speach.

[Araraukar]

fucking librarians and their 'freedom' and 'knowledge'. don't they know that it is only when we restrict freedom and promote ignorance that we can truly thrive?!

That's why in Araraukar the libraries are only allowed to populate the shelves with government-approved material.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

i was told that calling homos sick was hate speach.

It probably is, your point? I thought you were siding with the homophobes? I don't even really care about the idea of hate speech.

[Araraukar]

I've seen lists of Banned Books that included Flowers for Algernon and Huckleberry Finn.

Not to mention that Alaskan town where they wanted to put the Oxford dictionary on the banned list... bloody education screwing up their kids...

[Khadgar]

i got this eamil and so i looked it up and its true!

what do you think about this? i thought the library was a safe place to go but its not apparentely.

As the author, Scarlett Mcnspire firmly held views, and fundamentalists have sought to silence the opposition. Fundamentalists are, by definition, intolerant of other views. Their lives are dominated by their religion. TcGwire, puts it, "Throughout the [twentieth] century, religious matters have continued to ihey believe that their religion is the only religion and that they are the only true followers of God."

isnt it hate speach the bolded part?

Umm, no. A bit narrowly focused on the authors part, perhaps, but hate speach? I don't think so.

Myself, I am all manner of in favor of kids reading, and in them getting a well rounded reading regimen. The only books I would be in favor of banning and/or limiting would be things on "How to make nuclear weapons from Home Depot parts" and books extolling the virtues of pedophelia. Other than that, not so much with book banning.

In fact, I am all sorts of happy about the ALA and their reading programs. Allowing one special interest group to determine what can and cannot be read is the true danger here, not the ALA encouraging kids to expand their minds.

You can't build a nuke with home depot parts. Unless they sell stable hard explosives (malleable explosives could deform and not detonate evenly) and precision detonators. Oh and plutonium.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

You can't build a nuke with home depot parts. Unless they sell stable hard explosives (malleable explosives could deform and not detonate evenly) and precision detonators. Oh and plutonium.

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

[Conserative Morality]

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It's only use is a detonator. I believe it's more or less useless to try and create an atomic weapon with it in place of plutonium.

[Khadgar]

You can't build a nuke with home depot parts. Unless they sell stable hard explosives (malleable explosives could deform and not detonate evenly) and precision detonators. Oh and plutonium.

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It'd take 60kg to make a bomb with it. Good luck with that.

[Araraukar]

You can't build a nuke with home depot parts.

Unless you're MacGyver.

[Insert Quip Here]

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It's only use is a detonator. I believe it's more or less useless to try and create an atomic weapon with it in place of plutonium.

Even a dirty nuke?

[Araraukar]

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It'd take 60kg to make a bomb with it. Good luck with that.

You could use less to make a "dirty bomb" - one that would, say, used as a car bomb, with regular explosives, but also contain some amount of radioactive material. It would at the very least require an extensive cleaning operation on the site.

[Araraukar]

Even a dirty nuke?

Great minds think alike.

[Deus Malum]

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It's only use is a detonator. I believe it's more or less useless to try and create an atomic weapon with it in place of plutonium.

Even a dirty nuke?

Americium isn't THAT radioactive.

Edit: Or we'd be getting cancer from our smoke detectors.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Actually, smoke detectors contain a very small amount of a radioactive element known as americium.

It's only use is a detonator. I believe it's more or less useless to try and create an atomic weapon with it in place of plutonium.

It is fissile, it just has an obnoxiously large critical mass and, considering that it's artificial and thus hard to produce en masse, it would require that you purchase an insane number of smoke detectors whose total price would be much greater for a single working bomb than illegally smuggling enough U235 or P239 to make SEVERAL bombs.