Coronavirus Thread VIII: Shanghai Chokes

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That's quitter talk.

Well, I quit a long time ago, you know why? We have an unvaccinated third world and people who didn't listen during the early months of the pandemic. Eradication is a pipe dream and so is controlling the spread. Is it unfortunate? Yes, but we live in an era of disappointment, so it is expected.

Eradication was a pipe dream by January 2020.

There is always a lag between a development in the pandemic and knowledge of the development.

Coronavirus was in Europe and the US and elsewhere weeks before the first confirmed case in each. Then the same was true of Delta and Omicron. Statistically, if in two weeks the WHO announces the next Greek letter, somebody reading this is infected with it right now.

[San Lumen]

Well, I quit a long time ago, you know why? We have an unvaccinated third world and people who didn't listen during the early months of the pandemic. Eradication is a pipe dream and so is controlling the spread. Is it unfortunate? Yes, but we live in an era of disappointment, so it is expected.

Eradication was a pipe dream by January 2020.

There is always a lag between a development in the pandemic and knowledge of the development.

Coronavirus was in Europe and the US and elsewhere weeks before the first confirmed case in each. Then the same was true of Delta and Omicron. Statistically, if in two weeks the WHO announces the next Greek letter, somebody reading this is infected with it right now.

The only way this could possibly have been prevented is if didn't disband the Pandemic response team Obama set up.

[The Black Forrest]

Eradication was a pipe dream by January 2020.

There is always a lag between a development in the pandemic and knowledge of the development.

Coronavirus was in Europe and the US and elsewhere weeks before the first confirmed case in each. Then the same was true of Delta and Omicron. Statistically, if in two weeks the WHO announces the next Greek letter, somebody reading this is infected with it right now.

The only way this could possibly have been prevented is if didn't disband the Pandemic response team Obama set up.

Even then it was not possible with Trump in charge.

Hell. Not a fan of H. If she had been president; we would probably still had 750000 people alive. Lock downs averted and plans and goals to deal with the pandemic.

[San Lumen]

The only way this could possibly have been prevented is if didn't disband the Pandemic response team Obama set up.

Even then it was not possible with Trump in charge.

Hell. Not a fan of H. If she had been president; we would probably still had 750000 people alive. Lock downs averted and plans and goals to deal with the pandemic.

If Trump hadn't disbanded it this whole thing might have been prevented.

[The Black Forrest]

Even then it was not possible with Trump in charge.

Hell. Not a fan of H. If she had been president; we would probably still had 750000 people alive. Lock downs averted and plans and goals to deal with the pandemic.

If Trump hadn't disbanded it this whole thing might have been prevented.

Hmmm. No. It’s highly contagious. We would have had better intel if they were still in place.

For example; banning only Chinese nationals from entering the country did nothing when considering everybody else coming from China didn’t face quarantine…..

[Izandai]

The disbanded pandemic response team wouldn't've prevented COVID-19 from coming into existence, but it would've allowed us to respond to its existence much more swiftly and effectively than we did. If in addition we also had a president that didn't lie about there being no pandemic, promote bullshit over actual protective measures, and actively hinder efforts to institute lifesaving policies, we might be actually done with this thing by now.

[Picairn]

The only way this could possibly have been prevented is if didn't disband the Pandemic response team Obama set up.

No, we wouldn't have prevented the virus. Air to air transmission is highly infectious, no one can stop it entirely. But if we had been better prepared, then the death toll probably could have been thousands instead of a million (I'm not joking, look it up).

[Tinhampton]

The next National Review cruise, scheduled to leave Fort Lauderdale this November, will require proof of two vaccinations. I had assumed that the government of Florida banned cruise operators from doing this about nine months ago...

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The next National Review cruise, scheduled to leave Fort Lauderdale this November, will require proof of two vaccinations. I had assumed that the government of Florida banned cruise operators from doing this about nine months ago...

If I had to guess, DeSantis probably was able to strong arm the cruise ship companies themselves but not the organizations that make use of them. It isn't a boat rule, it's a National Review rule.

[Loeje]

That's quitter talk.

It will never truly go away because noone is willing to put in the effort to make it go away since that would make their lives a bit different (not even necessarily harder, just different) for a bit.

I don't know about that either. I did literally everything right. I got every vaccine dose as soon as I was allowed to, I followed social distancing, and wore a mask all the time. I still got covid. It feels like nothing works against it anymore.

[Vassenor]

It will never truly go away because noone is willing to put in the effort to make it go away since that would make their lives a bit different (not even necessarily harder, just different) for a bit.

I don't know about that either. I did literally everything right. I got every vaccine dose as soon as I was allowed to, I followed social distancing, and wore a mask all the time. I still got covid. It feels like nothing works against it anymore.

So did I. And that's not stopping me continuing to take those steps.

What if “learning to live with COVID” meant learning to live with basic precautions like masks and enhanced air handling rather than living with repeated infections until your long-term health is threatened?

[San Lumen]

I don't know about that either. I did literally everything right. I got every vaccine dose as soon as I was allowed to, I followed social distancing, and wore a mask all the time. I still got covid. It feels like nothing works against it anymore.

So did I. And that's not stopping me continuing to take those steps.

What if “learning to live with COVID” meant learning to live with basic precautions like masks and enhanced air handling rather than living with repeated infections until your long-term health is threatened?

You don't seem to understand that eradication is impossible. You want to wear a mask go ahead but it should not be mandatory for all henceforth which is what you seem to be suggesting.

[Ifreann]

So did I. And that's not stopping me continuing to take those steps.

You don't seem to understand that eradication is impossible. You want to wear a mask go ahead but it should not be mandatory for all henceforth which is what you seem to be suggesting.

If eradication is impossible then we will have to live with taking precautions against covid forever. Unless you want to get covid.

[San Lumen]

You don't seem to understand that eradication is impossible. You want to wear a mask go ahead but it should not be mandatory for all henceforth which is what you seem to be suggesting.

If eradication is impossible then we will have to live with taking precautions against covid forever. Unless you want to get covid.

No we don't. Getting sick is part of life. It should be up to the individual or business at this point.

[Tinhampton]

You don't seem to understand that eradication is impossible. You want to wear a mask go ahead but it should not be mandatory for all henceforth which is what you seem to be suggesting.

If eradication is impossible then we will have to live with taking precautions against covid forever. Unless you want to get covid.

Eradicating whatever makes people punch other people in the head is impossible, but not everybody is "taking precautions against [getting clocked in the face] forever" and not everybody who does not do so wants to be fatally punched.

[Ifreann]

If eradication is impossible then we will have to live with taking precautions against covid forever. Unless you want to get covid.

No we don't. Getting sick is part of life.

Taking precautions against getting sick is a part of life. Do you have this attitude about other diseases as well? No need to wash your hands after handling raw meat, getting sick is a part of life.

It should be up to the individual or business at this point.

You just said that eradication is impossible. Therefore the threat of covid will never go away. You'll always have to take precautions against it. Unless you want to get sick.

[San Lumen]

No we don't. Getting sick is part of life.

Taking precautions against getting sick is a part of life. Do you have this attitude about other diseases as well? No need to wash your hands after handling raw meat, getting sick is a part of life.

It should be up to the individual or business at this point.

You just said that eradication is impossible. Therefore the threat of covid will never go away. You'll always have to take precautions against it. Unless you want to get sick.

What do you suggest? Everyone hide behind masks henceforth? We never hold certain events again?

[Ifreann]

Taking precautions against getting sick is a part of life. Do you have this attitude about other diseases as well? No need to wash your hands after handling raw meat, getting sick is a part of life.

You just said that eradication is impossible. Therefore the threat of covid will never go away. You'll always have to take precautions against it. Unless you want to get sick.

What do you suggest? Everyone hide behind masks henceforth? We never hold certain events again?

I suggest that we eradicate covid. You're the one who thinks that we can't do that.

[San Lumen]

What do you suggest? Everyone hide behind masks henceforth? We never hold certain events again?

I suggest that we eradicate covid. You're the one who thinks that we can't do that.

We can't. The only two diseases ever to be eradicated are smallpox and rinderpest.

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What do you suggest? Everyone hide behind masks henceforth? We never hold certain events again?

I suggest that we eradicate covid. You're the one who thinks that we can't do that.

The entire scientific community agrees that eradication has been impossible for a very long time.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I suggest that we eradicate covid. You're the one who thinks that we can't do that.

The entire scientific community agrees that eradication has been impossible for a very long time.

Indeed, that window has shut. At this point, it's just a group of people who do not want others having a social life or human interaction, and they are trying to use Covid as a moral judgement. Hell, some admitted that they would want the restrictions to remain if Covid vanished tomorrow, and that was before Monkeypox.

[Juristonia]

Oh, now we suddenly care what the scientific community has to say.
Weird how that didn't seem to apply much these last couple of years.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Oh, now we suddenly care what the scientific community has to say.
Weird how that didn't seem to apply much these last couple of years.

I pretty much always did. I'm not a Trumpian and I have three vaccine doses in my body. Not my fault that early in the pandemic, many right-wingers didn't listen.

[Ifreann]

I suggest that we eradicate covid. You're the one who thinks that we can't do that.

The entire scientific community agrees that eradication has been impossible for a very long time.

Then we'll eradicate it philosophically.

[Vassenor]

Taking precautions against getting sick is a part of life. Do you have this attitude about other diseases as well? No need to wash your hands after handling raw meat, getting sick is a part of life.

You just said that eradication is impossible. Therefore the threat of covid will never go away. You'll always have to take precautions against it. Unless you want to get sick.

What do you suggest? Everyone hide behind masks henceforth? We never hold certain events again?

Why is being able to stare at strangers' mouths so vitally important to you that everyone else must put their lives at risk so you can do it?