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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:36 pm

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I never thought that. That’s just a meme that the left made up people that believe in the lab leak theory, which grows more creditable and probable as time goes on.

And you base this claim on....

Former CDC Director Robert Redfield and apparently the head of the WHO say that lap leak theory is quite possible.

It is quite possible and quite necessary to condemn violence against people of Asian and Pacific Islander decent. However, it is not racist to criticize the Communist party of China, and Winnie the Pooh
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:52 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And you base this claim on....

Former CDC Director Robert Redfield and apparently the head of the WHO say that lap leak theory is quite possible.

It is quite possible and quite necessary to condemn violence against people of Asian and Pacific Islander decent. However, it is not racist to criticize the Communist party of China, and Winnie the Pooh

Them saying it is possible (which is scientific speak for it could have happened, but there is no real evidence) does not mean that the idea (not theory) has grown more credible and probable as time goes on. You know what probability is, so give me the numbers, and on what you base those numbers.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:33 pm

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/B ... 1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1

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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1

Are you finally gonna stop bitching about it now?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1


And this is something vital for us to know about… why?

Remember, the pandemic isn’t over just because you’re over the pandemic.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1


And?

Pandemic isn’t over.
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Postby Page » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:23 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1


And?

Pandemic isn’t over.


And a lot of people are happy about it. There are videos from a few months back when it was announced to plane passengers in the air that the federal mask mandate was gone and the entire plane applauded.

Masks being optional on Broadway isn't the greatest thing to ever happen, it's not as though we should all set off fireworks and dance in the streets, but it's a nice little thing like BOGO 2 liter sodas or being asked on a date by a junior when you're a freshman or meeting a lemon beagle.

You ever have an experience as a kid where some kid the next town over was kidnapped and never seen again and then your mom freaks out and doesn't let you ride your bike alone around the neighborhood anymore but then a month later she just slowly starts to forget how freaked out she was and you know you can ride your bike again? Are sick child kidnappers "over"? No, they're still out there, but you know, it's time to get back to normal.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:12 am

So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156
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Postby Antipatros » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:14 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156

Thomas trying not to be a deranged partisan freak challenge (impossible difficulty)

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:30 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156


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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:32 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156

You know this strikes me as far too close to the blood libel shit some people indulges in

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Postby Page » Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:35 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156


It is the stupidest fucking thing. Even if fetuses were people and the abortion was a horrible thing in the first place, it's done! It's not as if there is an ongoing demand for more fetuses that getting vaccinated fuels.

If someone comes up with a cure for cancer and some of the research that made it possible originated from Mengele or Unit 731, are we supposed to just keep having cancer until our species goes extinct.

This is why I say that all non-consequentialist ethics are garbage.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:23 pm

Form any normal person that would just be insane. But in that position, it's criminally insane.

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:27 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:So.. our favourite justice Thomas is reigniting the whole "covid vaccines are derived from aborted children" again. How nice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/3 ... n-00043483
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156

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Postby Neon Lunar Eclipse » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:56 am

The pandemic was very rough, but it looks like it is finally over now. I am happy :)
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:01 am

Neon Lunar Eclipse wrote:The pandemic was very rough, but it looks like it is finally over now. I am happy :)


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... aily-cases

it’s not over.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:40 am

Neon Lunar Eclipse wrote:The pandemic was very rough, but it looks like it is finally over now. I am happy :)

It is not. People are still dying.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:42 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1

Congratulations on being able to get sick at expensive musicals more easily
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Postby Neon Lunar Eclipse » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:45 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-Theatres-Will-Be-Mask-Optional-Starting-July-1-20220621

Broadway Theatres Will Be 'Mask Optional' Starting July 1

Congratulations on being able to get sick at expensive musicals more easily


I am sure he is vaccinated.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:46 am

You'd be forgiven for letting out a weary sigh. There's so much going on from Ukraine to the rising cost of everything - and now Covid is rearing its ugly head again.

The latest statistics show the number of people infected in the UK has more than doubled since the start of June with around 2.3 million people testing positive. You probably know someone who's had it.

So is summer ruined? Two-and-a-half years into the pandemic we're back facing new variants, a surge in infections, questions about whether the NHS can cope and what it means for all our lives. It's also giving us a clearer idea of what living with Covid is going to look like.

"We're in a bad patch at the moment," says professor of public health at the University of Edinburgh Linda Bauld.

"It's very disruptive to society and some are suffering severe effects, but that's still a tiny proportion of where we were."

The driving force behind the sudden surge in infections is the double act of BA.4 and BA.5. These two mutated forms of the virus are technically sub-variants of Omicron. The original Omicron had an impressive ability to spread and overcome the immune defences our bodies have built up to keep the virus out. BA.4 and BA.5 are even better. Their ascent started before big summer events like the Jubilee celebrations or Glastonbury so it's not like we've just partied our way into a new wave.

Prof Danny Altmann, an immunologist at Imperial College London, says it's "shocking" how much the virus is able to change to keep on infecting us. He recalls seeing the first scientific analysis of Omicron last winter: "I felt like I'd just seen the worst horror film on the planet and yet it keeps throwing up worse ones".

The result is we're now entering another - arguably our third - Omicron wave of the year and it's only just July.

Research in the New England Journal of Medicine showed BA.4 and BA.5 can "substantially escape" the protection from either vaccination or infection. A study in Science also showed the original Omicron was like a "stealth virus" that left limited protection if you came across Omicron again.

The new sub-variants' slippery skills combined with our waning immunity means stories of catching Covid multiple times are now increasingly common. Plus there's still a surprising number - one-in-five of us - who have somehow dodged Covid throughout the pandemic.

"[This virus] continues to surprise us in unpleasant ways, you would have hoped there would be more protection from one Omicron variant to another" says Prof Mark Woolhouse, who studies disease outbreaks at the University of Edinburgh.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61995463

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:13 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Neon Lunar Eclipse wrote:The pandemic was very rough, but it looks like it is finally over now. I am happy :)

It is not. People are still dying.


We are never going to absolute zero covid, and we shouldn’t have to resort to a Shanghai type lockdown. People are still gonna die of coronavirus. I was sympathetic to the lockdown crowd in 2020 and more than half of 2021, but now we have therapeutics that are highly effective. We have to keep researching to make more and make them cheaper. We should also at least get boosted once a year like we do with the flu vaccine.

Other than that, we have to get back to somewhat of normalcy
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:15 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:It is not. People are still dying.


We are never going to absolute zero covid, and we shouldn’t have to resort to a Shanghai type lockdown. People are still gonna die of coronavirus. I was sympathetic to the lockdown crowd in 2020 and more than half of 2021, but now we have therapeutics that are highly effective. We have to keep researching to make more and make them cheaper. We should also at least get boosted once a year like we do with the flu vaccine.

Other than that, we have to get back to somewhat of normalcy

…Except more people wearing masks how exactly have things not returned to normalcy?
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
We are never going to absolute zero covid, and we shouldn’t have to resort to a Shanghai type lockdown. People are still gonna die of coronavirus. I was sympathetic to the lockdown crowd in 2020 and more than half of 2021, but now we have therapeutics that are highly effective. We have to keep researching to make more and make them cheaper. We should also at least get boosted once a year like we do with the flu vaccine.

Other than that, we have to get back to somewhat of normalcy

…Except more people wearing masks how exactly have things not returned to normalcy?


Mask mandates are not coming back. I haven’t worn a mask in about two months, and I only wear one when I absolutely have to. I’ve vaccinated and boosted twice. I have received all three vaccines available in the United States. Covid is here to stay for the rest of the existence of the human race
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:52 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Mask mandates are not coming back. I haven’t worn a mask in about two months, and I only wear one when I absolutely have to. I’ve vaccinated and boosted twice. I have received all three vaccines available in the United States. Covid is here to stay for the rest of the existence of the human race

That doesn’t actually answer the question posed.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:51 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:…Except more people wearing masks how exactly have things not returned to normalcy?


Mask mandates are not coming back. I haven’t worn a mask in about two months, and I only wear one when I absolutely have to. I’ve vaccinated and boosted twice. I have received all three vaccines available in the United States. Covid is here to stay for the rest of the existence of the human race


So we should just let people die for your convenience.
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