Coronavirus Thread VIII: Shanghai Chokes

[The Reformed American Republic]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

I don't agree with the mandate and do think it should be based on hospitalizations and deaths, but the Mayor having such power is not a new thing, nor is it a violation of any constitution or law.

A mayor is well within their rightful power to enact something like that though, and the only "solution" would be to vote them out next election.

[San Lumen]

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

I don't agree with the mandate and do think it should be based on hospitalizations and deaths, but the Mayor having such power is not a new thing, nor is it a violation of any constitution or law.

A mayor is well within their rightful power to enact something like that though, and the only "solution" would be to vote them out next election.

In this instance they are term limited in 2023.

[Izandai]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

Fun fact: Getting sick is bad even if you aren't sick enough to have to go to the hospital.

[Vassenor]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

[San Lumen]

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

[Izandai]

So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

And because of that, there's no reason for restrictions to last forever. And yet you constantly accuse people of wanting that.

[Vassenor]

So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

So how can we have permanent mask mandates and lockdowns if the pandemic cannot last forever?

[Untecna]

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

So how can we have permanent mask mandates and lockdowns if the pandemic cannot last forever?

Oh, we've locked him into a corner.

[The Black Forrest]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

Your first mistake was thinking politicians running for election could be trusted on this. They will support what they think the people want. If it’s anti-vax; they will speak out against it.

Hospitalizations and deaths they are not a good metric as they are the after effect of infections. Seriously; study up on that. You might learn what endemic means.

Actually; many countries had elected monarchs.

Even then he is a mayor and he is the leader. He gets to make calls.

Another thing you don’t understand. What it takes to be a leader. Here is a big hint: It means not having to placate those of you on the anti-vax/mask side.

[The Black Forrest]

So how can we have permanent mask mandates and lockdowns if the pandemic cannot last forever?

Oh, we've locked him into a corner.

Probably not. He likes to repeat arguements.

[The Black Forrest]

So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material.

Oh the irony.

[San Lumen]

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

Your first mistake was thinking politicians running for election could be trusted on this. They will support what they think the people want. If it’s anti-vax; they will speak out against it.

Hospitalizations and deaths they are not a good metric as they are the after effect of infections. Seriously; study up on that. You might learn what endemic means.

Actually; many countries had elected monarchs.

Even then he is a mayor and he is the leader. He gets to make calls.

Another thing you don’t understand. What it takes to be a leader. Here is a big hint: It means not having to placate those of you on the anti-vax/mask side.

stop with the anti vax label. The Democratic candidate for governor of PA this year is therefore dumb for not supporting Philadelphia's mayor on this?

[The Black Forrest]

Your first mistake was thinking politicians running for election could be trusted on this. They will support what they think the people want. If it’s anti-vax; they will speak out against it.

Hospitalizations and deaths they are not a good metric as they are the after effect of infections. Seriously; study up on that. You might learn what endemic means.

Actually; many countries had elected monarchs.

Even then he is a mayor and he is the leader. He gets to make calls.

Another thing you don’t understand. What it takes to be a leader. Here is a big hint: It means not having to placate those of you on the anti-vax/mask side.

stop with the anti vax label. The Democratic candidate for governor of PA this year is therefore dumb for not supporting Philadelphia's mayor on this?

Repost:

Your first mistake was thinking politicians running for election could be trusted on this. They will support what they think the people want. If it’s anti-vax; they will speak out against it.

[San Lumen]

stop with the anti vax label. The Democratic candidate for governor of PA this year is therefore dumb for not supporting Philadelphia's mayor on this?

Repost:

Your first mistake was thinking politicians running for election could be trusted on this. They will support what they think the people want. If it’s anti-vax; they will speak out against it.

I don't see how anti vax ties into this.

[Izandai]

Hey San, you got a response to this?

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

So how can we have permanent mask mandates and lockdowns if the pandemic cannot last forever?

[Celritannia]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

So workers should get sick and have to sacrifice their health in order to make a living and pass their illness on to others?

It's as if you don't want to stop the infection causing serious problems.

[Ayytaly]

I thought this was the new thread

[Antipatros]

The mayor is the leader of the city. He will do what it takes to protect as much citizenry as possible. This means you have to sacrifice your comfort levels and your “mental wellness” will take a hit. Even though there is a great deal of resources online and being able to talk to professionals through video chat.

The numbers are noticeably increasing so trying to lesson the rate is a good thing.

People having to wear a mask is not like having to wear a Jewish star. Get over yourselves and just do it till it’s lifted.

This is better then a full lockdown.

Philadelphia stands alone in this. Every candidate for governor has called in unnecessary. It is increasing by a very small number. Hospitalizations and deaths should be what matter not cases.

The mayor should not have the power to make mandates at their leisure. We don't elect monarchs.

Early in a wave, numbers will increase slowly. Active cases eventually hit a critical mass and then grow very rapidly. Hospitalizations and deaths follow.

Measures which reduce transmission are most effective early on. If you wait until the "new cases" curve is quite steep, you've waited too long.

[Ifreann]

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/get-ready-for-the-next-supply-chain-shockwave

China's refusal to drop their zero covid policy will likely to lead to even more massive supply chain issues.

That's what the western world gets for continuing to trade with the country responsible for this disease in the first place. We had years to find new trading partners. Why on Earth did we put it off?

China isn't responsible for this disease.

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So basically you want this pandemic to go on and on forever? Given that you keep arguing to for the removal of measures meant to end it.

This argument is beyond old. Get some new material. No pandemic can last forever. Its biologically impossible.

The first plague pandemic began with the Plague of Justinian in 541 and continued until 701. The second plague pandemic began in 1347 and recurred until the Russian plague ended in 1772. The third plague pandemic began in 1855 and was considered active until 1960. A combined 690 years of plague spread across 1,419 years.

[Haganham]

That's what the western world gets for continuing to trade with the country responsible for this disease in the first place. We had years to find new trading partners. Why on Earth did we put it off?

China isn't responsible for this disease.

China created it, was negligent in containing it and then lied about it for month preventing other nations being prepared.
It is absolutely responsible. It is not possible to be more responsible.

[Ifreann]

China isn't responsible for this disease.

China created it, was negligent in containing it and then lied about it for month preventing other nations being prepared.
It is absolutely responsible. It is not possible to be more responsible.

Alex Jones sells it better.

[Picairn]

China created it,

I thought the lab leak theory fizzled out like months ago.

[The Alma Mater]

China created it,

I thought the lab leak theory fizzled out like months ago.

To be fair, China does allow places like wet markets to continue to exist, despite knowing they are petridishes for new diseases.
In that sense they did indeed create it. No lab needed.

[Ifreann]

I thought the lab leak theory fizzled out like months ago.

To be fair, China does allow places like wet markets to continue to exist, despite knowing they are petridishes for new diseases.
In that sense they did indeed create it. No lab needed.

That hardly constitutes creating a disease.

[The Alma Mater]

To be fair, China does allow places like wet markets to continue to exist, despite knowing they are petridishes for new diseases.
In that sense they did indeed create it. No lab needed.

That hardly constitutes creating a disease.

Why not ? IMO creating the ideal circumstances for diseases to develop and doing nothing to stop that at the very least counts as *helping* to create them.
I have similar views about people (especially farmers) who do not finish treatments with anti-biotics "because they do not believe in evolution".