Ukrainian War Thread III: The Horrors

[Thermodolia]

You want testimony about the Azov batallion? The women they raped and killed? The West calls people who say that actors, and those for real witnesses.

All the credible testimonies I've read and watched describe the perpetrators of the massacres near Kyiv and Mariupol as Russian soldiers. But, at the very least, it appears we've moved on from your insistence that we have no pictures, videos, or testimony. Now you're simply maintaining that all evidence pointing to Russian perpetrators is false. Are we to only trust Russia Today?

Russia Today? Nah only Der Stuermer will work

[El Lazaro]

Everybody in Chișinău and Tiraspol need to get to shelter quickly. Moldova could be invaded within the next few hours.

Neither side has the strength to destroy the other at this time. There wouldn’t be separatists if that was the case.

Intuitively, it seems like Russia would use their forces to open a new front in the south—which would fit with Russia’s stated war objectives at this time as well as leaks as far back as the Lukashenko photo. Russian and Transnistrian propaganda claiming these were acts of Ukrainian terrorism would also seem to justify this. However, this would disrupt the balance of power in Moldova and put separatist forces at a disadvantage.

If they are going west, an offensive against Moldova could slow aid to Ukraine, displace refugees, and leverage a ceasefire in Moldova for negotiation demands with EU states. Another possibility is that Putin plans to declare Transnistria independent/annex it and is preemptively reducing Moldova’s military capabilities so it can’t join the war. It’s not impossible that Russia’s narrative was a red herring. Regardless, I don’t think the Kremlin plans to occupy the entire country.

[Thermodolia]

Despite the continued insanity of the UK I still think US involvement that could lead to nuclear war (ie. troops on the ground) isn’t a option that should be considered realistic.


Xi might be into that, you never know.

If Russia attacks any nato nation, its going to happen. They have already threatened Poland and the UK.

Russia doesn't get to whine about Ukrainian attacks in Russia. That's part of war. He wants to widen it to a nation nation Nato has no choice but to respond.

Putin needs to go, and as he has said any existential threat to his government will result in nuclear war.

It was Nice knowing you

Take a breather Ethel.

Ok so it’s unlikely that Russia is going to Nuke people. For one they might not actually have enough nukes to hit everyone (Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Second Russia is just bluffing because that’s all they have. And finally the order probably won’t be carried out as the oligarchs want to keep their boats and houses

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Take a breather Ethel.

Ok so it’s unlikely that Russia is going to Nuke people. For one they might not actually have enough nukes to hit everyone (Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Second Russia is just bluffing because that’s all they have. And finally the order probably won’t be carried out as the oligarchs want to keep their boats and houses

Besides if Chairman Xi can't talk down Moscow from going ballistic Chairman Xi is gonna stand there with no Chinese GDP
And Xi only cares about the Chinese GDP. Because that's the only thing keeping his shitty regime above revolutionary waters.

[Adamede]

and the Nanking Massacre never happened
*eyeroll*

Nanking happened. Bucha happened. Bucha was committed by the Azovs.

Ah yes it was the guys stuck in Mariupol who did it, not the Russian solders stationed in the town for weeks.

Russians really need to work on their propaganda.

[Thermodolia]

Everybody in Chișinău and Tiraspol need to get to shelter quickly. Moldova could be invaded within the next few hours.

Neither side has the strength to destroy the other at this time. There wouldn’t be separatists if that was the case.

Intuitively, it seems like Russia would use their forces to open a new front in the south—which would fit with Russia’s stated war objectives at this time as well as leaks as far back as the Lukashenko photo. Russian and Transnistrian propaganda claiming these were acts of Ukrainian terrorism would also seem to justify this. However, this would disrupt the balance of power in Moldova and put separatist forces at a disadvantage.

If they are going west, an offensive against Moldova could slow aid to Ukraine, displace refugees, and leverage a ceasefire in Moldova for negotiation demands with EU states. Another possibility is that Putin plans to declare Transnistria independent/annex it and is preemptively reducing Moldova’s military capabilities so it can’t join the war. It’s not impossible that Russia’s narrative was a red herring. Regardless, I don’t think the Kremlin plans to occupy the entire country.

Currently it looks more like it’s going to be a joint Ukrainian and Moldova also Romanian operation to remove the Russian threat in Moldova

[Thermodolia]

Take a breather Ethel.

Ok so it’s unlikely that Russia is going to Nuke people. For one they might not actually have enough nukes to hit everyone (Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Second Russia is just bluffing because that’s all they have. And finally the order probably won’t be carried out as the oligarchs want to keep their boats and houses

Besides if Chairman Xi can't talk down Moscow from going ballistic Chairman Xi is gonna stand there with no Chinese GDP
And Xi only cares about the Chinese GDP. Because that's the only thing keeping his shitty regime above revolutionary waters.

Exactly. Xi would rather Putin to be dead than for himself to be out of power

[American Legionaries]

and the Nanking Massacre never happened
*eyeroll*

Nanking happened. Bucha happened. Bucha was committed by the Azovs.

I hope the FSB isn't paying too much for these stories, because nobody is going to buy them.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Nanking happened. Bucha happened. Bucha was committed by the Azovs.

Ah yes it was the guys stuck in Mariupol who did it, not the Russian solders stationed in the town for weeks.

Russians really need to work on their propaganda.

This reminds me quite well of this phrase.

[Rusozak]

Nanking happened. Bucha happened. Bucha was committed by the Azovs.

I hope the FSB isn't paying too much for these stories, because nobody is going to buy them.

The FSB promised a fortune, so a Fortune magazine is what he shall receive.

[Thermodolia]

I hope the FSB isn't paying too much for these stories, because nobody is going to buy them.

The FSB promised a fortune, so a Fortune magazine is what he shall receive.

Hahahah. I hope the FSB didn’t say they’d get a payday

[El Lazaro]

Nanking happened. Bucha happened. Bucha was committed by the Azovs.

Ah yes it was the guys stuck in Mariupol who did it, not the Russian solders stationed in the town for weeks.

Russians really need to work on their propaganda.

The scariest thing about Jewish Nazis is their lethal telekinetic powers imparted upon them by SS-CIA-ISIS training. The second, which they obtained from the Sturmabteiling directly, is an invisibility serum which can be activated and deactivated at will. It is believed that one billion Jewish Nazis are currently fighting in Ukraine, yet only a few hundred have been detected thus far.

[Ethel mermania]

If Russia attacks any nato nation, its going to happen. They have already threatened Poland and the UK.

Russia doesn't get to whine about Ukrainian attacks in Russia. That's part of war. He wants to widen it to a nation nation Nato has no choice but to respond.

Putin needs to go, and as he has said any existential threat to his government will result in nuclear war.

It was Nice knowing you

Take a breather Ethel.

Ok so it’s unlikely that Russia is going to Nuke people. For one they might not actually have enough nukes to hit everyone (Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Second Russia is just bluffing because that’s all they have. And finally the order probably won’t be carried out as the oligarchs want to keep their boats and houses

Not at first, give it time

[Ethel mermania]

Take a breather Ethel.

Ok so it’s unlikely that Russia is going to Nuke people. For one they might not actually have enough nukes to hit everyone (Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Second Russia is just bluffing because that’s all they have. And finally the order probably won’t be carried out as the oligarchs want to keep their boats and houses

Besides if Chairman Xi can't talk down Moscow from going ballistic Chairman Xi is gonna stand there with no Chinese GDP
And Xi only cares about the Chinese GDP. Because that's the only thing keeping his shitty regime above revolutionary waters.

Which is why I want Biden to ask xi. Get that pressure put on putin

[Independent Cossack Ukraine]

Besides if Chairman Xi can't talk down Moscow from going ballistic Chairman Xi is gonna stand there with no Chinese GDP
And Xi only cares about the Chinese GDP. Because that's the only thing keeping his shitty regime above revolutionary waters.

Which is why I want Biden to ask xi. Get that pressure put on putin

Terrible idea, never trust Xi JinPIG! He leaked info to the Russians about troop placements when Biden sent someone to speak to him.

[Ethel mermania]

Which is why I want Biden to ask xi. Get that pressure put on putin

Terrible idea, never trust Xi JinPIG! He leaked info to the Russians about troop placements when Biden sent someone to speak to him.

That's the point. The message should be passed.

[El Lazaro]

Neither side has the strength to destroy the other at this time. There wouldn’t be separatists if that was the case.

Intuitively, it seems like Russia would use their forces to open a new front in the south—which would fit with Russia’s stated war objectives at this time as well as leaks as far back as the Lukashenko photo. Russian and Transnistrian propaganda claiming these were acts of Ukrainian terrorism would also seem to justify this. However, this would disrupt the balance of power in Moldova and put separatist forces at a disadvantage.

If they are going west, an offensive against Moldova could slow aid to Ukraine, displace refugees, and leverage a ceasefire in Moldova for negotiation demands with EU states. Another possibility is that Putin plans to declare Transnistria independent/annex it and is preemptively reducing Moldova’s military capabilities so it can’t join the war. It’s not impossible that Russia’s narrative was a red herring. Regardless, I don’t think the Kremlin plans to occupy the entire country.

Currently it looks more like it’s going to be a joint Ukrainian and Moldova also Romanian operation to remove the Russian threat in Moldova

According to who? It would be mutually beneficial yet pretty costly.

[Thermodolia]

Currently it looks more like it’s going to be a joint Ukrainian and Moldova also Romanian operation to remove the Russian threat in Moldova

According to who? It would be mutually beneficial yet pretty costly.

Reports I’ve seen floating around

[El Lazaro]

According to who? It would be mutually beneficial yet pretty costly.

Reports I’ve seen floating around

Who? The source matters as rumors of a Ukrainian presence in Transnistria could just as easily be Kremlin disinfo. Remember, to Russia, Ukraine and Moldova are both Nazi regimes trying to exterminate ethnic Russians under their governments. A liberation would be spun as another atrocity committed by Ukraine and its shadowy western puppet masters.

[Picairn]

The Brits/US I thought where sending over some tomahawks.

Either way the Bayraktar can reach pretty far into Russia and can launch a missile about half way to Moscow

It's weird then, that I haven't seen this reported anywhere. The Brimstone cruise missile being shipped by the UK has a pathetically small range of 60km+ (the Brimstone II variant), it can not strike Moscow from Kyiv.

You think Ukraine can send an unsupported Bayraktar all the way near Moscow to launch a missile? Press X to doubt.

[Picairn]

(Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Not again! I had two lengthy debates with a specific poster on the previous threads that peddled this ridiculous unsupported claim.

[Tarsonis]

The Brits/US I thought where sending over some tomahawks.

Either way the Bayraktar can reach pretty far into Russia and can launch a missile about half way to Moscow

It's weird then, that I haven't seen this reported anywhere. The Brimstone cruise missile being shipped by the UK has a pathetically small range of 60km+ (the Brimstone II variant), it can not strike Moscow from Kyiv.

You think Ukraine can send an unsupported Bayraktar all the way near Moscow to launch a missile? Press X to doubt.

I imagine that's the point. Gives Ukraine ordinance to strike in theater, but doesn't give them the ability to strike at the heart of Russia. Makes it hard for Russia to use it as a casus beli.

[New Zoigai]

I’m glad you finally decided to come clean and admit that you don’t give a fuck about Ukraine

When has cheerleaders of the Russian Empire ever given a fuck about other people?

When those other people are saving the Russian empire.... And alot of people have needed to save the Russian empire

[Hamidiye]

(Russia probably only has some 100 operational nukes, not missiles nuclear warheads)

Not again! I had two lengthy debates with a specific poster on the previous threads that peddled this ridiculous unsupported claim.

You do realize that that's plenty to extinguish life as we know it, right?

[New Zoigai]

Not again! I had two lengthy debates with a specific poster on the previous threads that peddled this ridiculous unsupported claim.

You do realize that that's plenty to extinguish life as we know it, right?

If 40 nukes are enough to destory all life on earth I dont wanna think about how dangerous aliens would be (Should they decide to visit earth)