Ukrainian War Thread III: The Horrors

[Luziyca]

I agree that we should definitely avoid a situation where Russia commits a genocide in Ukraine. So I guess the question is, how to we end the war as quickly as possible in a way that has Ukraine in a good enough position to prevent that from happening?

Simple. Every NATO member with nuclear arsenals empties out their nuclear arsenals and nukes every Russian military installation in a show of shock and awe.

One way or another, this genocidal war will end, and then we can get to work rebuilding Ukraine and punishing every last one of the genocidaires.

[Umeria]

I agree that we should definitely avoid a situation where Russia commits a genocide in Ukraine. So I guess the question is, how to we end the war as quickly as possible in a way that has Ukraine in a good enough position to prevent that from happening?

Giving them all the military equipment they ask for and then some. Really the only way Ukraine continues to exist as a nation is if the Russians die in droves and their war effort collapses.

I mostly agree with this, but some of the equipment they're asking for would start WWIII. If you give them planes that they need to fly in from Poland, it's going to look like a NATO nation is attacking Russia. And this might be unrealistic but I hope the Russians dying in droves part doesn't happen either.

Simple. Every NATO member with nuclear arsenals empties out their nuclear arsenals and nukes every Russian military installation in a show of shock and awe.

One way or another, this genocidal war will end, and then we can get to work rebuilding Ukraine and punishing every last one of the genocidaires.

There would be no Ukraine to rebuild if we do that. There will be no human life whatsoever, in fact.

[The North Polish Union]

At 1:12 in this video you can see Head of the Doneck People's Republic Denys Puszylin awarding a medal to a member of the Somali Battalion fighting in Mariupol that is wearing totenkopf and valknut patches. Apparently Russians have no qualms with neo-Nazis fighting on the front so long as they're "our" neo-Nazis

[Nimzonia]

Mother Russia needs to stop harassing her neighbours. She is like an ex-partner who is very abusive and jealous.

It's almost May 9th. The Russian army should go back to doing the only thing it's actually trained for, i.e. goose-stepping up and down red square like fascist chic didn't abruptly go out of fashion in 1945.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

At 1:12 in this video you can see Head of the Donetsk People's Republic Denys Puszylin awarding a medal to a member of the Somali Battalion fighting in Mariupol that is wearing totenkopf and valknut patches. Apparently Russians have no qualms with neo-Nazis fighting on the front so long as they're "our" neo-Nazis

I mean yeah
You need some people "experienced" in this shit if you want to obliterate a people in its totality.

[Utquiagvik]

It’s just disturbing what’s occurring in Ukraine. Widespread Destruction, Murder, and Rape. Nothing justifies what Russia is doing in Ukraine, and Putin is the worlds main threat right now. Genocide has occurred in Bucha, and Mariupol is badly damaged. The innocent Russian Civilians have to watch as their leader murders hundreds and destroys lives, not being able to do anything about it, and the Innocent Ukrainian Civilians have to watch as their country gets destroyed by Putin, the most evil man in the world. Ukraine will likely survive this war, but the aftermath is not going to be pretty, unfortunately.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Giving them all the military equipment they ask for and then some. Really the only way Ukraine continues to exist as a nation is if the Russians die in droves and their war effort collapses.

I mostly agree with this, but some of the equipment they're asking for would start WWIII. If you give them planes that they need to fly in from Poland, it's going to look like a NATO nation is attacking Russia. And this might be unrealistic but I hope the Russians dying in droves part doesn't happen either

Russia won't do shit over planes, it's just empty threats. If we're that concerned we should send them by train from Poland into western Ukraine after giving the Ukes enough warning to blanket the area with triple a.

[Antipatros]

If we want to talk about a military response: A reciprocal policy would be to send Western "volunteers" into Ukraine, like Russia did in Donbas for a number of years.

I suspect the Western countries will stick with sanctioning Russia and providing Ukraine with money, military equipment, and intelligence.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If we want to talk about a military response: A reciprocal policy would be to send Western "volunteers" into Ukraine, like Russia did in Donbas for a number of years.

I suspect the Western countries will stick with sanctioning Russia and providing Ukraine with money, military equipment, and intelligence.

Honestly I fully believe we're already doing that with the Foreign Legion, there's a shocking number of western SOF types active in it. Some of them were probably retired dudes who joined up because they believe in the cause, but it wouldn't be hard for JSOC to embed units with them.

[New Baltenstein]

At 1:12 in this video you can see Head of the Doneck People's Republic Denys Puszylin awarding a medal to a member of the Somali Battalion fighting in Mariupol that is wearing totenkopf and valknut patches. Apparently Russians have no qualms with neo-Nazis fighting on the front so long as they're "our" neo-Nazis

Literally the only ones who think that the Russian government gives a dusty fuck about actual Neo-Nazis must be Russian pensioners who receive news from the outside world exclusively through Soviet-made black and white home TVs and Western tankies with a massive chip on their shoulder.

Russian agitprop and its various useful idiots have zero qualms about smearing Ukraine as a Nazi country AND as a country of homoliberals controlled by Jews, at the same time, in the same sentence.
I think one Russian oligarch recently called Ukraine the capital of pagans, and Russia's "special military operation" a "holy war against paganism" (or rather, a holy special military operation against paganism I guess).
I have no doubt that the spin they are selling to their Chechen/Syrian auxiliary cannon fodder, and the Islamic world at large, is that Ukraine is a country of crusaders, infidels and Zionists and that what Putin is doing is righteous Jihad.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Honestly these articles are such a fucking trip, it still blows my mind that they're real and came from state media. I'm still badly hoping we start giving Ukraine more than just small arms, they need aircraft and vehicles.

I still wonder what the hell these "negotiations" are hoping to achieve. Because these people in charge of Russia sure as fuck won't have a sudden epiphany over what Nazism they are perpetrating because they are "talking" to the rest of Europe.

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I still wonder what the hell these "negotiations" are hoping to achieve. Because these people in charge of Russia sure as fuck won't have a sudden epiphany over what Nazism they are perpetrating because they are "talking" to the rest of Europe.

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

To Moscow these sordid days, the mere existence of Ukrainians as a people, an ethnicity is a sign of Nazism that needs to be "liquidated".

[The Jamesian Republic]

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

To Moscow these sordid days, the mere existence of Ukrainians as a people, an ethnicity is a sign of Nazism that needs to be "liquidated".

This is just sickening.

[Democratic Brasilia]

I still wonder what the hell these "negotiations" are hoping to achieve. Because these people in charge of Russia sure as fuck won't have a sudden epiphany over what Nazism they are perpetrating because they are "talking" to the rest of Europe.

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

because there is a military force in ukraine that is like the nazis and the russians are using that to say that ukraine is a nazi ran country

[Democratic Brasilia]

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

because there is a military force in ukraine that is like the nazis and the russians are using that to say that ukraine is a nazi ran country

Even tho that is a small extremist military force and the president of ukraine is JEWISH

[The Jamesian Republic]

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

because there is a military force in ukraine that is like the nazis and the russians are using that to say that ukraine is a nazi ran country

Azov? That’s just an independent militia not the actual military right?

[Democratic Brasilia]

because there is a military force in ukraine that is like the nazis and the russians are using that to say that ukraine is a nazi ran country

Azov? That’s just an independent militia not the actual military right?

oh about that, idk man, i just know that it fights the russian military and so they say ukraine is nazi

[New Baltenstein]

Also wouldn’t it be very obvious if Nazis took over a country? And where did they get the idea that Nazi’s took over Ukraine.

To Moscow these sordid days, the mere existence of Ukrainians as a people, an ethnicity is a sign of Nazism that needs to be "liquidated".

What I find most intriguing (in a deeply disturbed way, mind you) about the whole affair, is this: Russian society has a living memory. Most people in Russia alive today remember the latter parts of the Soviet Union, the 90ies, the beginning of the Putin years, globalization with all its ups and downs, troubles, achievements and the like. They must know that there used to be a reality that wasn't THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE MINUS US ARE TEH NAZIS. I mean, supposedly, they've lived in this actual reality for most of their lives, just like all other societies. They must know that they were not, in fact, always at war with Oceania. Just where did this sense of reality go?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Azov? That’s just an independent militia not the actual military right?

oh about that, idk man

Upon further evidence they are apart of the Ukraine National Guard

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

[Washington Resistance Army]

because there is a military force in ukraine that is like the nazis and the russians are using that to say that ukraine is a nazi ran country

Even tho that is a extremist military force and the president of ukraine is JEWISH

It's also worth pointing out that Azov's ideological core was pretty depleted over the last few years and at this point it's just vaguely nationalist and anti-Russian and not even full on Nazi anymore. They even have a specifically Jewish unit now, it's actually a really hilarious thing to read into.

[Democratic Brasilia]

oh about that, idk man

Upon further evidence they are apart of the Ukraine National Guard

so they are official, right?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Upon further evidence they are apart of the Ukraine National Guard

so they are official, right?

I guess so. Though the above post said they have given up the Nazi ideology but are still far right.

[Democratic Brasilia]

so they are official, right?

I guess so. Though the above post said they have given up the Nazi ideology but are still far right.

So putin stopped calling the ukrainian goverment nazi or he still continue calling it nazi?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I guess so. Though the above post said they have given up the Nazi ideology but are still far right.

So putin stopped calling the ukrainian goverment nazi or he still continue calling it nazi?

Refer to Austria-Bohemia-Hungary's post on the first page. Not only are they still claiming the war as a whole is about de-nazification but they're also now claiming it's about de-ukrainization.

Which is just a thinly veiled way of saying genocide.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/russia ... ass-grave/

Russian troops tortured and executed a village mayor and her family, Ukrainian officials say