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Postby Adamede » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:15 am

Corrian wrote:So I heard that apparently Russian ships are like backing out of Crimea, because I guess the Ukrainian's HIMARS are now being given long ranged missiles that can actually hit Crimea and probably the beloved bridge. Will they? I don't know, but it seems that Russian ships are concerned.

Russian logisitcs are already under a lot of strain. Taking out that bridge would put even more strain on them, especially in the south. If I could I would destroy that bridge.
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:18 am

Page wrote:I know it's my fault for continuing to argue with tankies rather than walk away but holy fuck these Putin simps...

Never in my life would I have bet on so many self-proclaimed leftists stanning for an ultra-capitalist far-right imperialist power invading a much smaller country and indiscriminately murdering civilians.

Most of those leftists are more anti-West than anything.

If Hitler came back to life and said that he would nuke the US those people would support him.
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Postby Adamede » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:20 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Page wrote:I know it's my fault for continuing to argue with tankies rather than walk away but holy fuck these Putin simps...

Never in my life would I have bet on so many self-proclaimed leftists stanning for an ultra-capitalist far-right imperialist power invading a much smaller country and indiscriminately murdering civilians.

Most of those leftists are more anti-West than anything.

If Hitler came back to life and said that he would nuke the US those people would support him.

I mean back in those days the communists tended to be agaisnt war with the Axis until the Germans invaded the USSR.
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Postby Umeria » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:21 am

Adamede wrote:
Page wrote:I know it's my fault for continuing to argue with tankies rather than walk away but holy fuck these Putin simps...

Never in my life would I have bet on so many self-proclaimed leftists stanning for an ultra-capitalist far-right imperialist power invading a much smaller country and indiscriminately murdering civilians.

Not the first time that the far left and far right have teamed up. Probably wont be the last.

I mean, you could say that the far left and far right teamed up in supporting Ukraine as well, as there's a pretty clear split in both groups on the issue.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:21 am

Adamede wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Most of those leftists are more anti-West than anything.

If Hitler came back to life and said that he would nuke the US those people would support him.

I mean back in those days the communists tended to be agaisnt war with the Axis until the Germans invaded the USSR.

That period between 1939 and 1940 when 90% of the world's communist parties suddenly wanted peace with Nazi Germany was very funny.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:31 am

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Don't forget that according to the Russians the Su-25s Ukraine are flying are capable of actual black magic. I mean for fucks sake these morons actually tried to say it was a UA Su-25 that shot down MH-17 lol.


Why couldn’t it be? Friendly fire can happen from time to time.


Because MH-17 was flying considerably above the Su-25's service ceiling (Su-25 ceiling: 23,000 ft. MH-17 altitude at time of destruction: 33,000 feet), for one. The fact that none of Ukraine's Su-25s can carry air-to-air missiles is another.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:34 am

Adamede wrote:
Corrian wrote:So I heard that apparently Russian ships are like backing out of Crimea, because I guess the Ukrainian's HIMARS are now being given long ranged missiles that can actually hit Crimea and probably the beloved bridge. Will they? I don't know, but it seems that Russian ships are concerned.

Russian logisitcs are already under a lot of strain. Taking out that bridge would put even more strain on them, especially in the south. If I could I would destroy that bridge.


It would be mighty tempting to destroy that bridge- but also very risky. You always want to present your enemy with a golden, beautiful looking escape route. If Ukraine wants to take Crimea, then that bridge represents a nice, easy way to escape back to Russia for any quibbling conscript.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:36 am

Vassenor wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Why couldn’t it be? Friendly fire can happen from time to time.


Because MH-17 was flying considerably above the Su-25's service ceiling, for one. The fact that none of Ukraine's Su-25s can carry air-to-air missiles is another.


And don’t forget the so-called satellite photos the Russians tried to push on everyone- depicting an F-16. Which Ukraine didn’t have. Clearly Ukrainian Su-25s are so proficient in the dark arts that they can transform into completely different airplanes!
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:39 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Don't forget that according to the Russians the Su-25s Ukraine are flying are capable of actual black magic. I mean for fucks sake these morons actually tried to say it was a UA Su-25 that shot down MH-17 lol.


Why couldn’t it be? Friendly fire can happen from time to time.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:45 am

Chan Island wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because MH-17 was flying considerably above the Su-25's service ceiling, for one. The fact that none of Ukraine's Su-25s can carry air-to-air missiles is another.


And don’t forget the so-called satellite photos the Russians tried to push on everyone- depicting an F-16. Which Ukraine didn’t have. Clearly Ukrainian Su-25s are so proficient in the dark arts that they can transform into completely different airplanes!


If it's the one I think it is, it was an Su-27 "Flanker" (rather than a 25) photoshopped alongside the first google image hit for "boeing top view".
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:56 am

Vassenor wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
And don’t forget the so-called satellite photos the Russians tried to push on everyone- depicting an F-16. Which Ukraine didn’t have. Clearly Ukrainian Su-25s are so proficient in the dark arts that they can transform into completely different airplanes!


If it's the one I think it is, it was an Su-27 "Flanker" (rather than a 25) photoshopped alongside the first google image hit for "boeing top view".


A miracle magic spell! UA Su-25s have learned how to transform into more than 1 completely different airplane :p

But yes, that is the one.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:05 pm

Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:07 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this


Well Russia cannot possibly be losing on its own merits so Ukraine must be cheating somehow.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:22 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this

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Postby The North Polish Union » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:50 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this

"The real Nazis in 1945 fought on meth and whole cocktail of psychoactive drugs so the Ukrainians must too! How else can we be suffering like this?!"

Actually the original Kommersant article that's being referenced is even dumber.

"And we see: the cruelty and atrocities with which Ukrainian servicemen behave, the crimes they commit against civilians, the monstrous crimes they commit against prisoners of war, confirm that all this is a single system of control and creation of the cruelest killing machine, (which.- "Kommersant") was implemented under the control of the United States ... And the doping they are still given in order to neutralize the last traces of human consciousness and turn them into the cruelest and deadliest In addition, in her opinion, "in the tubes of U.S. military laboratories we need to look" for avian and swine flu, coronavirus and monkeypox, "because their particular interest in the origin of viruses and pathogens of animal origin, then masking them as natural pathogens and the natural emergence of epidemics - this is such a stealth maneuver, when, preferring to remain unnoticed, they actually create unforeseen situations in different regions of the world".

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:51 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this

Wait so we’re turning them into supersoldiers by… giving them hepatitis??
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:35 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this

Wait so we’re turning them into supersoldiers by… giving them hepatitis??

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:50 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Ah yes, just target the laser to curve around the sun and go back in time and deliver a crisp cheque to the Ukrainians with instructions to use it to modify a ground attack aircraft to shoot down a passenger jet for some reason. Perfectly simple.


Honestly not even the most outlandish conspiracy theory I've heard involving Jews lmao

Go around the sun, go into the past, take back Crimea and get paid, just Zelensky doing hot girl stuff.
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Postby Antipatros » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:16 pm

Erdogan renews threat to 'freeze' Swedish, Finnish NATO bids

This came ahead of his meeting with Putin at the Turkey-Iran-Russia summit in Tehran.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:36 pm

Antipatros wrote:Erdogan renews threat to 'freeze' Swedish, Finnish NATO bids

This came ahead of his meeting with Putin at the Turkey-Iran-Russia summit in Tehran.

Dude needs to make up his damn mind.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:41 pm

Antipatros wrote:Erdogan renews threat to 'freeze' Swedish, Finnish NATO bids

This came ahead of his meeting with Putin at the Turkey-Iran-Russia summit in Tehran.

That’s not what he’s doing all he’s saying is that Sweden and Finland need to uphold their end of the deal.

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Postby Don Flippers » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:32 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Does Russia have a shortage of anti-psychotics or something?

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Like wtf is this

Wait so we’re turning them into supersoldiers by… giving them hepatitis??


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Postby Evil Wolf » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Don't forget that according to the Russians the Su-25s Ukraine are flying are capable of actual black magic. I mean for fucks sake these morons actually tried to say it was a UA Su-25 that shot down MH-17 lol.


They also tried to say that the CIA took down MH-17 (you know, for reasons), which included an "intercepted phone call" where one "CIA agent" starts off with a British accent and ends the call with a bad mildly Texas accent, and both "CIA Agents" end the call by saying the single word "Luck" to each other, which to an American English speaker is utter nonsense, but is a common Russian goodbye.
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Postby Vistulange » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Antipatros wrote:Erdogan renews threat to 'freeze' Swedish, Finnish NATO bids

This came ahead of his meeting with Putin at the Turkey-Iran-Russia summit in Tehran.

That’s not what he’s doing all he’s saying is that Sweden and Finland need to uphold their end of the deal.

That’s it.

But, you know. Turkey bad, killing good Kurds.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:11 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Antipatros wrote:Erdogan renews threat to 'freeze' Swedish, Finnish NATO bids

This came ahead of his meeting with Putin at the Turkey-Iran-Russia summit in Tehran.

That’s not what he’s doing all he’s saying is that Sweden and Finland need to uphold their end of the deal.

That’s it.

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