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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:03 am

Salus Maior wrote:
New Zoigai wrote:There is also the fact that alot of Soviet weaponry is..... Russian so the russians will easily find a way to counter them


A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:09 am

New Zoigai wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

You would think the Russians atleast know the flaws of their own weapons, and from there plan accordingly in order to place battles in their favor

You would think so, but all the Russian Military Fails videos on YouTube seem to say that they barely know how to operate their own equipment...
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Postby The North Polish Union » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:11 am

New Zoigai wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

You would think the Russians atleast know the flaws of their own weapons, and from there plan accordingly in order to place battles in their favor

Russia has long countered the possibility of its military equipment being used by a hostile foreign power by making that equipment absolute garbage.

This of course, bring its own drawbacks...
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Postby Deblar » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:24 am

Gallia- wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Internationally, outside of the Kremlin, Transnistria is still considered a part of Moldova.


That's rather incorrect, then, isn't it. Transnistria exists, and Moldova does not own it, ergo it is no more a part of Moldova than the Panama Canal is a part of America. They could try to invade it and take the land, but they did that and lost.

Well, here's the thing; even if they are de facto independent, on the global stage, you're only independent if most or all other other countries say you are. If they say you're not independent, then you really are not, and only one or two countries saying you're independent isn't gonna cut it
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Postby Utquiagvik » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:33 am

Deblar wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
That's rather incorrect, then, isn't it. Transnistria exists, and Moldova does not own it, ergo it is no more a part of Moldova than the Panama Canal is a part of America. They could try to invade it and take the land, but they did that and lost.

Well, here's the thing; even if they are de facto independent, on the global stage, you're only independent if most or all other other countries say you are. If they say you're not independent, then you really not, and only one or two countries saying you're independent isn't gonna cut it

Correct. Transnistria is only recognized by 4 countries, which themselves have limited recognition. If Russia invades Transnistria, then its invading Moldova. Transnistria needs actual recognition to be its own independent land.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:02 am

New Zoigai wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Wouldn’t half to fly all the way to Moscow. You can fly half way or so and launch a missile that way. Also anti-ship missiles can still make a land based boom.

Tomahawks have a range of 1,200km Moscow is only 800km from Ukraine

With a 5% chance of not hitting a civillian space instead of a useful target

I’d love for Lenin’s mummy to get blown sky high by an accidental missile strike, but missing the Kremlin is basically impossible. Stand three feet away from a building and throw a dart at it. The Tomahawk has better odds than that.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:25 am

Salus Maior wrote:
New Zoigai wrote:There is also the fact that alot of Soviet weaponry is..... Russian so the russians will easily find a way to counter them


A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

American ammunition is filled with smokeless powder; Russian ammunition is filled with baking powder so its military can spend the money on its much more important yachts. Glory to mother Russia!

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:29 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

American ammunition is filled with smokeless powder; Russian ammunition is filled with baking powder so its military can spend the money on its much more important yachts. Glory to mother Russia!

It also counts as their rations so that they can fund the business jets.
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Postby Independent Cossack Ukraine » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:49 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
New Zoigai wrote:You would think the Russians atleast know the flaws of their own weapons, and from there plan accordingly in order to place battles in their favor

You would think so, but all the Russian Military Fails videos on YouTube seem to say that they barely know how to operate their own equipment...


Russian Military Fails are my favorite "comedy" videos on YouTube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5gIdujOs0
I didn't know Russia hired Wile E. Coyote to build their missiles. No wonder North Korea can't launch properly, they learned from the Russians.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:13 pm

Independent Cossack Ukraine wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:You would think so, but all the Russian Military Fails videos on YouTube seem to say that they barely know how to operate their own equipment...


Russian Military Fails are my favorite "comedy" videos on YouTube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5gIdujOs0
I didn't know Russia hired Wile E. Coyote to build their missiles. No wonder North Korea can't launch properly, they learned from the Russians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWrx9Ce9ic
Behold. Russia in all her glory. May 9. T-14 Armata with superior Russian braking system! You no go ANYWHERE!

Notice how it seems like almost every compilation has a different video of a tank being driven off the side of the transporter.

It's systemic incompetence, there's no excuse for having the same accident happen that many times.
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Postby New Baltenstein » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:15 pm

Picairn wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:and Ukraine should begin bombing Russian government buildings.

This ain't Call of Duty, Ukrainians are not gonna infiltrate the Kremlin.

As for the Russian cities on the border, there are bombings already although the question of who did them is a mystery.


Activision actually apologized for the way the have been depicting Russia in the Call of Duty series a while ago:

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:37 pm

Valery Gerasimov, the Chief of the General Staff, is in Izium to personally lead the new offensive

Holy fuck does Putin want the entire military gutted of leadership?

Also Gerasimov is one of the guys required to launch the nukes, Sergei Shoigu and Putin being the others
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:49 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Valery Gerasimov, the Chief of the General Staff, is in Izium to personally lead the new offensive

Holy fuck does Putin want the entire military gutted of leadership?

Also Gerasimov is one of the guys required to launch the nukes, Sergei Shoigu and Putin being the others


That's...an escalation.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:53 pm

Ukraine names 10 Russian soldiers in alleged human rights abuses in Bucha

According to Ukraine's prosecutor general, they are part of the 64th brigade from Khabarovsk, including at least 2 sergeants, 4 corporals, and 4 privates.

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Postby Rusozak » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Valery Gerasimov, the Chief of the General Staff, is in Izium to personally lead the new offensive

Holy fuck does Putin want the entire military gutted of leadership?

Also Gerasimov is one of the guys required to launch the nukes, Sergei Shoigu and Putin being the others


Maybe it's all been a ploy to purge the military leadership of would-be coup attempters.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:12 pm


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:20 pm


Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational America!!
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Who are the 10?

all republicans
Biggs-AZ
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Davidson-OH
Gaetz-FL
Gosar-AZ
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Biggs could actually lose his seat over this. His district isn’t that red and is filled with people who would support this over not supporting it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:30 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:47 pm


Shit. Russia is going to do something dumb aren’t they.

Also word is going around that an operation in Moldova May begin sometime on the 29th of April
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Postby Hrvada » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:49 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kowani wrote:all republicans
Biggs-AZ
Bishop-NC
Davidson-OH
Gaetz-FL
Gosar-AZ
Greene-GA
Massie-KY
Norman-SC
Perry-PA
Tiffany-WI

Biggs could actually lose his seat over this. His district isn’t that red and is filled with people who would support this over not supporting it.

Biggs's district is like R+20 and I even think it got sored up a little during redistricting. He'll be fine.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:54 pm

I'm bewildered that Boebert isn't on there
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