Ukrainian War Thread III: The Horrors

[New Zoigai]

Transnistria bars all military aged men from leaving the country.

Transnistria is getting prepared.

thank god I dont live in eastern europe

[Ifreann]

Transnistria bars all military aged men from leaving the country.

Oh good, more war. That's what we need.

[Adamede]

That's nice, lets see some sources.

Source is I studied Transnistria and other frozen conflicts at Oxford so I can bill $350 an hour for citing sources rather than providing them gratis to sarcastic neets.

Im legitimately asking for sources. And if this is how you act I’m assuming you have no clients, giving you the free time to spot on here with “neets” such as me. Calm down dude.

[Thermodolia]

Not the Tochka-Us but the British and American missiles they are getting can. Also the Bayraktar‘s can get within range of the Uke missiles

Do you have a source regarding that? I'm genuinely interested in reading about this, I didn't know the West was supplying Ukraine with such weapons.

So the Brit’s are sending Ukraine anti ship missiles https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ade-black/

[Adamede]

A helpful map demonstrating the size of the area Russia wants to encircle.

Looks like Pokrovsk is an extremely strategically important city.

[Adamede]

It would be cool if the EU had just paid for laying a railroad specifically to transport all the munitions to some Russian demolitions factory where the munitions would be disposed of but I guess that's too commonsensical.

Exactly, why should the EU pay for a railroad to be built between non-EU member countries, in a non-EU gauge, to transport stuff that doesn't belong to any EU member country from a non-EU member country to another non-EU member country, passing through non-EU member countries?

Obviously its common sense for the EU to bankroll Russia and its goals. /s

[New Zoigai]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ru ... uxbndlbing

Russia is doing their job for them

[Adamede]

This ain't Call of Duty, Ukrainians are not gonna infiltrate the Kremlin.

As for the Russian cities on the border, there are bombings already although the question of who did them is a mystery.

Given how many Ukrainians speak Russian fluently and how large the border is, the suggestion isn’t exactly far-fetched or without precedent. The Chechens carried out multiple attacks within Russia itself as an example. It’s likely seen as a waste of resources and a dangerous escalation among Ukrainian leaders though.

Man and a rifle to Moscow by May 9th /s

[Utquiagvik]

Transnistria is getting prepared.

thank god I dont live in eastern europe

Same here. I hope the best for everyone in Ukraine, Moldova, and the innocent civilians of Russia.

[Hrvada]

Name of this missile please, and sources. It is peculiar how this has seemingly been left unnoticed by the media, which is weird because you'd think the supply of SRBMs with bigger range than the Iskander itself would make the headlines.

The Brits/US I thought where sending over some tomahawks.

Either way the Bayraktar can reach pretty far into Russia and can launch a missile about half way to Moscow

Wouldn't a Bayraktar be easily detected by Russian air defenses though?

[Skelly Man Dan]

This ain't Call of Duty, Ukrainians are not gonna infiltrate the Kremlin.

As for the Russian cities on the border, there are bombings already although the question of who did them is a mystery.

Given how many Ukrainians speak Russian fluently and how large the border is, the suggestion isn’t exactly far-fetched or without precedent. The Chechens carried out multiple attacks within Russia itself as an example. It’s likely seen as a waste of resources and a dangerous escalation among Ukrainian leaders though.

I suspect there’s also a PR/politics aspect to it, in that Ukraine benefits from being perceived as solely defending itself. Even if it’s justified and had military value, bringing the fight into Russia complicates that narrative to the general public and might make world leaders more wary of escalation.

Not that they can’t take advantage of strikes within Russia to complicate logistics, but I’m sure anything they did would be extremely low-key to avoid complicating global perception of the fight.

[New Zoigai]

Given how many Ukrainians speak Russian fluently and how large the border is, the suggestion isn’t exactly far-fetched or without precedent. The Chechens carried out multiple attacks within Russia itself as an example. It’s likely seen as a waste of resources and a dangerous escalation among Ukrainian leaders though.

Man and a rifle to Moscow by May 9th /s

From Moscow to a Russian jail where he is most likely to die

[Adamede]

NATO is ready to maintain support for Ukraine for years, including a transition from old Soviet equipment to modern Western arms.

It’s the only realistic long term solution to the military equipment problem.

[Skelly Man Dan]

Exactly, why should the EU pay for a railroad to be built between non-EU member countries, in a non-EU gauge, to transport stuff that doesn't belong to any EU member country from a non-EU member country to another non-EU member country, passing through non-EU member countries?

On idol y its common sense for the EU to bankroll Russia and its goals. /s

“I can excuse a war of blatant aggression, but I draw the line at countries not bending over backwards for Papa Putin.”

[Thermodolia]

The Brits/US I thought where sending over some tomahawks.

Either way the Bayraktar can reach pretty far into Russia and can launch a missile about half way to Moscow

Wouldn't a Bayraktar be easily detected by Russian air defenses though?

So far Russia doesn’t seem to have any air defenses if shit in Kursk is getting blown to bits

[Hrvada]

Wouldn't a Bayraktar be easily detected by Russian air defenses though?

So far Russia doesn’t seem to have any air defenses if shit in Kursk is getting blown to bits

Yeah, but there's a very big difference between a missile strike on a city just across the border and flying a drone all the way to Moscow.

[Thermodolia]

NATO is ready to maintain support for Ukraine for years, including a transition from old Soviet equipment to modern Western arms.

It’d the o ly realistic long term dot lion to the military equipment problem.

English?

Anyway militarily NATO/US could have indefinitely remained in Afghanistan, we pulled out due to political issues.

So militarily we can and will continue to indefinitely supply Ukraine. Especially with the US sending what amounts to 33 billion a year in defense aid

[Christian Confederation]

Well looks like Transnistria is about to commit suicide.

[Thermodolia]

So far Russia doesn’t seem to have any air defenses if shit in Kursk is getting blown to bits

Yeah, but there's a very big difference between a missile strike on a city just across the border and flying a drone all the way to Moscow.

Wouldn’t half to fly all the way to Moscow. You can fly half way or so and launch a missile that way. Also anti-ship missiles can still make a land based boom.

Tomahawks have a range of 1,200km Moscow is only 800km from Ukraine

[Adamede]

Man and a rifle to Moscow by May 9th /s

From Moscow to a Russian jail where he is most likely to die

Plenty if Ukrainians fine with that trade off right now, and that number only grows with every family raped and murdered by Russian soldiers.

[New Zoigai]

Yeah, but there's a very big difference between a missile strike on a city just across the border and flying a drone all the way to Moscow.

Wouldn’t half to fly all the way to Moscow. You can fly half way or so and launch a missile that way. Also anti-ship missiles can still make a land based boom.

Tomahawks have a range of 1,200km Moscow is only 800km from Ukraine

With a 5% chance of not hitting a civillian space instead of a useful target

[Adamede]

It’d the o ly realistic long term dot lion to the military equipment problem.

English?

Anyway militarily NATO/US could have indefinitely remained in Afghanistan, we pulled out due to political issues.

So militarily we can and will continue to indefinitely supply Ukraine. Especially with the US sending what amounts to 33 billion a year in defense aid

On my phone and I have Viena sausages for fingers.

And yes we can indefinitely supply Ukraine with equipment, NATO equipment, which they arent trained on. And it turns out there isnt an endless supply of working Soviet heavy weaponry on the world market after all. So train the Ukrainians on Western equipment now so that they will know how to work it when we send it to them.

[New Zoigai]

English?

Anyway militarily NATO/US could have indefinitely remained in Afghanistan, we pulled out due to political issues.

So militarily we can and will continue to indefinitely supply Ukraine. Especially with the US sending what amounts to 33 billion a year in defense aid

On my phone and I have Viena sausages for fingers.

And yes we can indefinitely supply Ukraine with equipment, NATO equipment, which they arent trained on. And it turns out there isnt an endless supply of working Soviet heavy weaponry on the world market after all. So train the Ukrainians on Western equipment now so that they will know how to work it when we send it to them.

There is also the fact that alot of Soviet weaponry is..... Russian so the russians will easily find a way to counter them

[Salus Maior]

On my phone and I have Viena sausages for fingers.

And yes we can indefinitely supply Ukraine with equipment, NATO equipment, which they arent trained on. And it turns out there isnt an endless supply of working Soviet heavy weaponry on the world market after all. So train the Ukrainians on Western equipment now so that they will know how to work it when we send it to them.

There is also the fact that alot of Soviet weaponry is..... Russian so the russians will easily find a way to counter them

A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

[New Zoigai]

There is also the fact that alot of Soviet weaponry is..... Russian so the russians will easily find a way to counter them

A bullet is a bullet whether it's American or Russian. What's to counter?

You would think the Russians atleast know the flaws of their own weapons, and from there plan accordingly in order to place battles in their favor