American Politics XI: No Moe Roe(Likely, Anyway)

[Nora Xent]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/599140-sarah-palin-says-shed-serve-in-don-youngs-seat-in-a-heartbeat

Former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin is considering running in the special election for Alaska’s house seat.

The nutjob from Alaska really wants to be back in the spotlight again? While I don't know how popular she still is in Alaska, I can see her winning the house seat.

[Myrensis]

538: How White Victimhood Fuels Republican Politics

Presented without comment

This is hardly news. Conservatives had been spiraling for years of course due to their resentment at the failure of the Reagan Revolution to usher in eternal white conservative dominance of America, but it's not a coincidence that it was the election of the first black President that drove them completely off the deep end, and led us to the point where conservative dogma is that God sent Donald Trump to be the savior of white conservative America against the hordes of Satanic pedophile globalists who want to 'replace' all the good, smart, independent white people with lazy, criminal, subservient minorities.

White grievance has been the bedrock of Republican political strategy for decades, it's just getting more unhinged because those people are getting more and more uppity all the time.

[San Lumen]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 8.html?amp

It has now been confirmed Alaska congressman Don Young died on a flight from Los Angeles to Seattle.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5990 ... -next-week

Young will lie in state on March 29th at the Capitol in Washington DC.

[The Reformed American Republic]

538: How White Victimhood Fuels Republican Politics

Presented without comment

This is hardly news. Conservatives had been spiraling for years of course due to their resentment at the failure of the Reagan Revolution to usher in eternal white conservative dominance of America, but it's not a coincidence that it was the election of the first black President that drove them completely off the deep end, and led us to the point where conservative dogma is that God sent Donald Trump to be the savior of white conservative America against the hordes of Satanic pedophile globalists who want to 'replace' all the good, smart, independent white people with lazy, criminal, subservient minorities.

White grievance has been the bedrock of Republican political strategy for decades, it's just getting more unhinged because those people are getting more and more uppity all the time.

I partly agree and partly disagree here. While conservatives are racist with this white savior shit, I do not think it was Obama being black that pushed them off the edge but rather they were heading to that point for years prior. Hell, the insane Pat Robinson thew his hat in the ring on the GOP side back in 1988 and he wasn't without influence.We also had other batshit GOP leaders like Giuliani. Evangelical Christians are also usually conspiratorial as they constantly look for the end of the world, so them coming up with batshit crazy ideas did not need help from Obama.

Even if Obama never took office and no black candidate replaced him, I doubt we'd be in a better position. Hell, he hasn't been president for six years already.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Also QANON is fueling Republican politics as well.

[Hamidiye]

Also QANON is fueling Republican politics as well.

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

[The Reformed American Republic]

Also QANON is fueling Republican politics as well.

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

America has a rising tide of people who are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote. I mean, people who believe in QAnon should be in a mental asylum.

[Ifreann]

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

America has a rising tide of people who are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote. I mean, people who believe in QAnon should be in a mental asylum.

I'm sure the country would be vastly improved if the government could disenfranchise people en masse and detain them indefinitely without trial.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If American democracy refuses to defend itself against overt threats like apocalyptic cults spanning the whole nation then what do you have left?

[San Lumen]

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

America has a rising tide of people who are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote. I mean, people who believe in QAnon should be in a mental asylum.

Absolutely not. No one unless your incarcerated should be denied the fundamental right to vote. You might be more informed than them or disagree with their politics but they have an equal right to cast a ballot as you do.

[Sordhau]

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

America has a rising tide of people who are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote. I mean, people who believe in QAnon should be in a mental asylum.

It's not stupidity, it's decades of coordinated manipulation starting during the Cold War by corporate media to prevent critical thinking and is aimed primarily at the largest demographic in America: the working class. This is by design meant to prevent a worker revolution so as to ensure the security of the assets of capitalists by turning those to whom socialist ideals would most appeal to (the proletariat and the peasantry) against those very ideals by creating misinformation of those ideals and what they represent as well as creating an environment which promotes pursuit of success at the expense of others that banks on the inherent selfish ideology of an individualist society. The idea is to prevent class consciousness by keeping the only people with the power to change anything from realizing that the system doesn't work for them and never did, thus ensuring they will never rise up against their oppressors and the status quo will be maintained until the inevitable point in which late stage capitalism collapses from it's own decrepit nature and the corporate bandits flee the country en masse to other capitalist countries so they can pick up where they left off: exploiting the workers for personal profit. America, meanwhile, will crumble and the poor--as always--will be the ones who suffer.

[Ifreann]

If American democracy refuses to defend itself against overt threats like apocalyptic cults spanning the whole nation then what do you have left?

If American democracy is limited only to people who aren't "stupid" and dissenters are imprisoned, in what sense is there any democracy to defend?

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America has a rising tide of people who are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote. I mean, people who believe in QAnon should be in a mental asylum.

Absolutely not. No one unless your incarcerated should be denied the fundamental right to vote. You might be more informed than them or disagree with their politics but they have an equal right to cast a ballot as you do.

Liberals just can't talk about fundamental and inviolable rights without including exceptions because liberalism is about denying people rights while claiming those rights to be universal.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Also QANON is fueling Republican politics as well.

That one is something really... it's hard to believe that anyone actually thinks this clownesque thing is true. It sounds absurd beyond even the Nazi-ufos from the dark side of the moon, but apparently more than just a few conspiracy-nuts of the caliber that went for the "Reichsflugscheibe"-thing go for it. Well, after watching for news for years their capability to reason has propably eroded away somewhat, but still... it's the same with the religion-angle: any politician here who openly said his god spoke to him would be laughed out of the area, calls for having his sanity tested abounding.
As our famous elder statesman Helmut Schmidt said: "If you have visions you should go see a doctor."

That’s because the government is controlled by the fifth-dimensional intradimensional blue bird aliens!

[San Lumen]

If American democracy refuses to defend itself against overt threats like apocalyptic cults spanning the whole nation then what do you have left?

If American democracy is limited only to people who aren't "stupid" and dissenters are imprisoned, in what sense is there any democracy to defend?

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Absolutely not. No one unless your incarcerated should be denied the fundamental right to vote. You might be more informed than them or disagree with their politics but they have an equal right to cast a ballot as you do.

Liberals just can't talk about fundamental and inviolable rights without including exceptions because liberalism is about denying people rights while claiming those rights to be universal.

The Boston marathon bomber should not be voting.

[Ifreann]

If American democracy is limited only to people who aren't "stupid" and dissenters are imprisoned, in what sense is there any democracy to defend?

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Liberals just can't talk about fundamental and inviolable rights without including exceptions because liberalism is about denying people rights while claiming those rights to be universal.

The Boston marathon bomber should not be voting.

Tsarnaev has a greater stake in the conduct of the government than you do.

[San Lumen]

The Boston marathon bomber should not be voting.

Tsarnaev has a greater stake in the conduct of the government than you do.

A murderer like him should get no say in government. Do they have a right to an attorney? Yes.

A right to vote? No.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Tsarnaev has a greater stake in the conduct of the government than you do.

A murderer like him should get no say in government. Do they have a right to an attorney? Yes.

A right to vote? No.

Maybe. But once you have the infrastructure to do that, it could easily be used to silence other groups.

[Ifreann]

Tsarnaev has a greater stake in the conduct of the government than you do.

A murderer like him should get no say in government. Do they have a right to an attorney? Yes.

A right to vote? No.

I'm aware that you don't believe in universal suffrage, you don't need to repeat yourself.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Prisoners should be allowed to vote.

[San Lumen]

A murderer like him should get no say in government. Do they have a right to an attorney? Yes.

A right to vote? No.

I'm aware that you don't believe in universal suffrage, you don't need to repeat yourself.

Once someone leaves prison they should be able to vote.

Prisoners should be allowed to vote.

Should the Boston Marathon bomber get to cast a ballot?

[The Jamesian Republic]

I'm aware that you don't believe in universal suffrage, you don't need to repeat yourself.

Once someone leaves prison they should be able to vote.

Prisoners should be allowed to vote.

Should the Boston Marathon bomber get to cast a ballot?

Did he become a citizen? He was born in Kyrgyzstan and if he didn’t become a citizen then no. If he is a citizen then yes.

[San Lumen]

Once someone leaves prison they should be able to vote.



Should the Boston Marathon bomber get to cast a ballot?

Did he become a citizen? He was born in Kyrgyzstan and if he didn’t become a citizen then no. If he is a citizen then yes.

I believe he did become a citizen. I don’t think someone who committed a terrorist act should be casting a ballot.

What about Robert Hanssen a traitor whose actions compromised the names of KGB agents working secretly for the U.S., some of whom were executed for their betrayal. He is now serving a life sentence at ADX Florence.

[Ifreann]

I'm aware that you don't believe in universal suffrage, you don't need to repeat yourself.

Once someone leaves prison they should be able to vote.

I just said that I know you don't believe in universal suffrage. Do you think that detailing who you want to disenfranchise and when will change something here?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Did he become a citizen? He was born in Kyrgyzstan and if he didn’t become a citizen then no. If he is a citizen then yes.

I believe he did become a citizen. I don’t think someone who committed a terrorist act should be casting a ballot.

What about Robert Hanssen a traitor whose actions compromised the names of KGB agents working secretly for the U.S., some of whom were executed for their betrayal. He is now serving a life sentence at ADX Florence.

Yes. Though how he isn’t dead because of that I don’t know.

[San Lumen]

Once someone leaves prison they should be able to vote.

I just said that I know you don't believe in universal suffrage. Do you think that detailing who you want to disenfranchise and when will change something here?

Should the traitor who I mentioned above now serving a life sentence have the right to vote according to you?