American Politics XI: No Moe Roe(Likely, Anyway)

[Umeria]

Hey, I have a question for you americans. Remeber the insurrectionists trying to storm your seat of parliament? Why the hell didn't the guards open fire, and what would your reactions have been had they shot the perpetrators? And called in reenforcements? You are an armed society after all, to me that seems the proper response, bear-arms and all that.

perhaps american authoritarianism would've given up the ghost -- perhaps trump himself would've given up his

a show of bloody force to defend american democracy could've compelled the government to round up the ringleaders of the insurrection -- not just the proud boys and oathkeepers, but those within the trump admin, from trump on down -- indict and convict them, and execute as needed in record time

definitely better than the death we now see, cut by excruciating cut

This is not what would have happened. There is no scenario where the Trump admin magically goes away, no matter how much violence you add into the equation. The only way to defeat Trump is to show the American people that you have a better vision for the country than he does, and the only way to do that is to push forward an agenda that significantly improves the lives of the working class. You appear to have rejected this fact.

[New haven america]

McConnell says national abortion ban ‘possible’

Definitely one way to throw the midterms to the Democrats.

It won't.

In fact, it's currently only riling up the right-wingers.

Most pro-choice advocates are just accepting defeatist nonsense at this point.

[Prima Scriptura]

McConnell says national abortion ban ‘possible’

Definitely one way to throw the midterms to the Democrats.

It won't.

In fact, it's currently only riling up the right-wingers.

Most pro-choice advocates are just accepting defeatist nonsense at this point.

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Hey, I have a question for you americans. Remeber the insurrectionists trying to storm your seat of parliament? Why the hell didn't the guards open fire, and what would your reactions have been had they shot the perpetrators? And called in reenforcements? You are an armed society after all, to me that seems the proper response, bear-arms and all that.

As for my reaction it would make my anxiety over the situation even worse.

I was worried that was what would end happening or that martial law be declared.

[The Jamesian Republic]

It won't.

In fact, it's currently only riling up the right-wingers.

Most pro-choice advocates are just accepting defeatist nonsense at this point.

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

And the Republican Party has this mentality that Roe V. Wade being overturned alone is sufficient to end the issue of abortion.

[New haven america]

It won't.

In fact, it's currently only riling up the right-wingers.

Most pro-choice advocates are just accepting defeatist nonsense at this point.

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

I don't recall that it got illegalized already.

Source?

[Free Algerstonia]

It won't.

In fact, it's currently only riling up the right-wingers.

Most pro-choice advocates are just accepting defeatist nonsense at this point.

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

laws are not living, they do not "live" or "die", get better rhetoric

[Prima Scriptura]

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

And the Republican Party has this mentality that Roe V. Wade being overturned alone is sufficient to end the issue of abortion.

I would agree that the anti-abortion movement will turn their attention on a federal ban on abortion, because it’s the only way that abortion would be illegal in progressive states.

[Hamidiye]

Hey, I have a question for you americans. Remeber the insurrectionists trying to storm your seat of parliament? Why the hell didn't the guards open fire, and what would your reactions have been had they shot the perpetrators? And called in reenforcements? You are an armed society after all, to me that seems the proper response, bear-arms and all that.

As for my reaction it would make my anxiety over the situation even worse.

I was worried that was what would end happening or that martial law be declared.

Those people were assaulting your parliament to...do god knows what. I don't want to delve into the mind of a Q-anon, no idea what their aim was.

But still... imho they'd have deserved to be shot. And sentenced for treason if they survived.

[Moscareinas]

evidently, the expectation was that antifa would meet and tussle trumpsters halfway, giving trump the rationale to declare martial law and upend american democracy that way in favor of his own continued authoritarian misrule (and who knows how many more would that abyss have killed with his actively hindering pandemic policy?)

things evidently didn't go to that plan, so they planned to kill off congress instead, with the connivance of multiple republican politicians

[Prima Scriptura]

Because Roe V Wade is dead. The only thing that abortion activists can do now is take their fight to the individual states. Abortion is no longer protected as a “right“ on the federal level, and most likely it’s going to be that way for generations.

I don't recall that it got illegalized already.

Source?

If you think that the 5 justices that voted to overturn Roe V Wade are going to change their mind before the official release of the opinion, you’re fooling yourself.

[Prima Scriptura]

As for my reaction it would make my anxiety over the situation even worse.

I was worried that was what would end happening or that martial law be declared.

Those people were assaulting your parliament to...do god knows what. I don't want to delve into the mind of a Q-anon, no idea what their aim was.

But still... imho they'd have deserved to be shot. And sentenced for treason if they survived.

But that’s the thing, in America we don’t take far right extremism seriously.

[The Jamesian Republic]

And the Republican Party has this mentality that Roe V. Wade being overturned alone is sufficient to end the issue of abortion.

I would agree that the anti-abortion movement will turn their attention on a federal ban on abortion, because it’s the only way that abortion would be illegal in progressive states.

True. Though what I’m saying is that unless the Republican Party adapts its platform to support a strong welfare state you know from before you are born to when you die and support criminal justice reform to bring justice and help people escape from violent situations and promote sex education and self defense education. Along with providing contraceptive. Overturning Roe is not sufficient to help the situation. They are already trying to ban contraceptive already though and they aren’t keen on education.

[New haven america]

I don't recall that it got illegalized already.

Source?

If you think that the 5 justices that voted to overturn Roe V Wade are going to change their mind before the official release of the opinion, you’re fooling yourself.

You could've actually tried reading my question you know.

[Port Caverton]

Those people were assaulting your parliament to...do god knows what. I don't want to delve into the mind of a Q-anon, no idea what their aim was.

But still... imho they'd have deserved to be shot. And sentenced for treason if they survived.

But that’s the thing, in America we don’t take far right extremism seriously.

If only there was an overseas military camp to send those folks to...

[The Jamesian Republic]

But that’s the thing, in America we don’t take far right extremism seriously.

If only there was an overseas military camp to send those folks to...

Then when you get sent to Gitmo?

[Saiwania]

Sai posts a lot of opinions that are downright repulsive to the average person, but this is hardly the first or last time.

My views aren't terrible by the standards of what is allowed here. I don't believe I'm terrible, just different and it's only an issue because I break from the echo chamber of what's popularly accepted here so far as politics go.

I stand unique among all posters on the internet if not just here. Why must I be destroyed?

[Port Caverton]

If only there was an overseas military camp to send those folks to...

Then when you get sent to Gitmo?

You get waterboarded for Un-american activities

[The Jamesian Republic]

Then when you get sent to Gitmo?

You get waterboarded for Un-american activities

No I’m saying when America pulls a Coup d'état of 9 Thermidor on you (The one that over threw Robespierre) then what?

Also why would I be sent there for un-American activity? If anything I’m the most pro-American person on here.

[Cannot think of a name]

evidently, the expectation was that antifa would meet and tussle trumpsters halfway, giving trump the rationale to declare martial law and upend american democracy that way in favor of his own continued authoritarian misrule (and who knows how many more would that abyss have killed with his actively hindering pandemic policy?)

things evidently didn't go to that plan, so they planned to kill off congress instead, with the connivance of multiple republican politicians

So they got high on their own supply.

[Hamidiye]

Those people were assaulting your parliament to...do god knows what. I don't want to delve into the mind of a Q-anon, no idea what their aim was.

But still... imho they'd have deserved to be shot. And sentenced for treason if they survived.

But that’s the thing, in America we don’t take far right extremism seriously.

Which is precisely why you have your problems. Still... you argue for gun rights every day, you're an armed society. You argue for strength and exhort your leaders... what would have happened had the insurgents been shot, I wonder? The instigatirs sentenced for treason, the perpetrators sentenced to proper prison terms. Your democracy is weak.

[Port Caverton]

You get waterboarded for Un-american activities

No I’m saying when America pulls a Coup d'état of 9 Thermidor on you (The one that over threw Robespierre) then what?

Also why would I be sent there for un-American activity? If anything I’m the most pro-American person on here.

I don't even live in the US. I just want Biden to do that. Plus I thought you were talking about what happens when someone gets sent to the best military camp in human history.

[Cannot think of a name]

You get waterboarded for Un-american activities

No I’m saying when America pulls a Coup d'état of 9 Thermidor on you (The one that over threw Robespierre) then what?

Also why would I be sent there for un-American activity? If anything I’m the most pro-American person on here.

If there was a time when 'pro-American' wasn't a partisan definition mostly used to frame opposition as 'anti-American'...

[The Jamesian Republic]

No I’m saying when America pulls a Coup d'état of 9 Thermidor on you (The one that over threw Robespierre) then what?

Also why would I be sent there for un-American activity? If anything I’m the most pro-American person on here.

I don't even live in the US. I just want Biden to do that. Plus I thought you were talking about what happens when someone gets sent to the best military camp in human history.

No I wasn’t saying that lol.

Anyway do be warned if Biden starts throwing everyone who disagrees with him in Gitmo he is onLy setting precedent for it to happen to him or to people who don’t deserve it though nobody should be jailed for disagreeing with the government. (Nonviolent disagreement)

[Port Caverton]

I don't even live in the US. I just want Biden to do that. Plus I thought you were talking about what happens when someone gets sent to the best military camp in human history.

No I wasn’t saying that lol.

Anyway do be warned if you start throwing everyone who disagrees with you in Gitmo you are only setting precedent for it to happen to you or to people who don’t deserve it though nobody should be jailed for disagreeing with the government.

Far-right terrorism is a bit more than disagreeing with the government thought.