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Space Squid wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
Well, in that case it should just be dropped if there's no where to debate it.

This isn't the place to debate Christian doctrine at any rate.

I'll tell you what. If Christian doctrine is never allowed to play any role in American politics ever, then we won't talk about it here.

Besides, when someone hostile to Christianity comes into the CDT, you guys get very annoyed and say that's not the place for such discussions either.

So this is really just an attempt to constrain the discussion.

New haven america wrote:If a non-Catholic comes into the CDT they say there's no place for their opinions of beliefs in there.

New haven america wrote:Most modern "Activists" are honestly kinda pathetic.

On one hand, I've been seeing so much shit the past few days about how women should be going on sex strikes or shaming men for jerking it, but what they don't understand is that that's exactly what conservatives want! They hate the idea of out-of-wedlock sex and sexual liberation, part of the reason they hate abortion so much is because they view it as encouraging "slutty" behavior with no consequences. You're playing right into their hands.

On the other side, tons upon tons of women are just accepting it. "Yeah, better just prepare, nothing else we can do. *shrug*" Nothing else!? Really? There's nothing you can imagine doing in order to stand up for your bodily autonomy?

It's infuriating. FFS, Mexico got abortion legalized within a day of the government declaring they'd be keeping it illegalized, and yet up here they can't even envision 1 action that could help keep it legal? Are you serious?

Shrillland wrote:

New haven america wrote:Most modern "Activists" are honestly kinda pathetic.

On one hand, I've been seeing so much shit the past few days about how women should be going on sex strikes or shaming men for jerking it, but what they don't understand is that that's exactly what conservatives want! They hate the idea of out-of-wedlock sex and sexual liberation, part of the reason they hate abortion so much is because they view it as encouraging "slutty" behavior with no consequences. You're playing right into their hands.

On the other side, tons upon tons of women are just accepting it. "Yeah, better just prepare, nothing else we can do. *shrug*" Nothing else!? Really? There's nothing you can imagine doing in order to stand up for your bodily autonomy?

It's infuriating. FFS, Mexico got abortion legalized within a day of the government declaring they'd be keeping it illegalized, and yet up here they can't even envision 1 action that could help keep it legal? Are you serious?

More or less. 1. Mexico's abortion opponents weren't on the cusp of seizing dictatorial power and not needing to listen to the public on anything, they still had to bow to the masses. 2. The main reason that nothing can be done is because the people who'd need to be swayed can't be by their opponents, only their increasingly angry and violent supporters.

Saiwania wrote:What does criminalizing abortion look like in terms of enforcing it? Is it a search warrant of her phone and computer to see what doctors and healthcare providers were sought out? Is it anyone she knows being interrogated about her menstrual cycle? Is it subpoena of insurance, travel, and bank records?

Rusozak wrote:

Saiwania wrote:What does criminalizing abortion look like in terms of enforcing it? Is it a search warrant of her phone and computer to see what doctors and healthcare providers were sought out? Is it anyone she knows being interrogated about her menstrual cycle? Is it subpoena of insurance, travel, and bank records?

Some red states have already proposed keeping a watch list of women suspected of seeking abortion. Just police state 101 shit.

Saiwania wrote:What does criminalizing abortion look like in terms of enforcing it? Is it a search warrant of her phone and computer to see what doctors and healthcare providers were sought out? Is it anyone she knows being interrogated about her menstrual cycle? Is it subpoena of insurance, travel, and bank records?

New haven america wrote:

Space Squid wrote:I'll tell you what. If Christian doctrine is never allowed to play any role in American politics ever, then we won't talk about it here.

Besides, when someone hostile to Christianity comes into the CDT, you guys get very annoyed and say that's not the place for such discussions either.

So this is really just an attempt to constrain the discussion.

If a non-Catholic comes into the CDT they say there's no place for their opinions of beliefs in there.

Kannap wrote:Keep your fantasies about women being abused in your head, we don't want to be a part of it.

New haven america wrote: They hate the idea of out-of-wedlock sex and sexual liberation, part of the reason they hate abortion so much is because they view it as encouraging "slutty" behavior with no consequences.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

New haven america wrote:If a non-Catholic comes into the CDT they say there's no place for their opinions of beliefs in there.

The presence of Orthodox, Anglican and Protestant posters rather quickly disproves this.

Salus Maior wrote:

New haven america wrote: They hate the idea of out-of-wedlock sex and sexual liberation, part of the reason they hate abortion so much is because they view it as encouraging "slutty" behavior with no consequences.

There is a consequence; destroying a human life that they conceived just for fun. That's the point. Discarding an innocent human life just to enable hedonism is dystopian, and the fact you don't get that is even more dystopian.

There's nothing worth preserving in hookup culture.

Saiwania wrote:

Kannap wrote:Keep your fantasies about women being abused in your head, we don't want to be a part of it.

I'm looking into whether I should support or oppose the recent direction on abortion in the US. I had assumed that it'd keep being legal by default and this SCOTUS action blindsided me and I do see a lot of downsides. But it could also be very good. I might be able to get rich and more because of this brave new world we're entering. I'm a male though, so my stakes in this is less personal or significantly less.

New haven america wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
There is a consequence; destroying a human life that they conceived just for fun. That's the point. Discarding an innocent human life just to enable hedonism is dystopian, and the fact you don't get that is even more dystopian.

There's nothing worth preserving in hookup culture.

We get it, you hate women and like watching them suffer.

You don't have to spam this fact 10,000 times a day.

New haven america wrote:Most modern "Activists" are honestly kinda pathetic.

On one hand, I've been seeing so much shit the past few days about how women should be going on sex strikes or shaming men for jerking it, but what they don't understand is that that's exactly what conservatives want! They hate the idea of out-of-wedlock sex and sexual liberation, part of the reason they hate abortion so much is because they view it as encouraging "slutty" behavior with no consequences. You're playing right into their hands.

On the other side, tons upon tons of women are just accepting it. "Yeah, better just prepare, nothing else we can do. *shrug*" Nothing else!? Really? There's nothing you can imagine doing in order to stand up for your bodily autonomy?

It's infuriating. FFS, Mexico got abortion legalized within a day of the government declaring they'd be keeping it illegal, and yet up here they can't even envision 1 action that could help keep it legal? Are you serious?

Eahland wrote:You should oppose it because it's horrible. But of course you'll support it because it's horrible.

Saiwania wrote:

Eahland wrote:You should oppose it because it's horrible. But of course you'll support it because it's horrible.

There is debate on Stormfront whether this is better or worse for White America. That is what my loyalties are to. There is concern that we need abortion, else the non-White segments of the US are going to overtake the Whites even faster, because there is less preventing more births happening from women across the board getting knocked up from the sex they're going to have.

Salus Maior wrote:

New haven america wrote:We get it, you hate women and like watching them suffer.

You don't have to spam this fact 10,000 times a day.

That would certainly be easier for you to believe.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
There is debate on Stormfront whether this is better or worse for White America. That is what my loyalties are to. There is concern that we need abortion, else the non-White segments of the US are going to overtake the Whites even faster, because there is less preventing more births happening from women across the board getting knocked up from the sex they're going to have.

>claim not to be a Nazi anymore
>openly admit you use Stormfront and are only loyal to the idea of race

It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

New haven america wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
That would certainly be easier for you to believe.

Everyone here thinks you do.

Salus Maior wrote:Did anyone ever seriously consider the "I'm not a nazi" bit?

Kannap wrote:Biden promised me nothing would fundamentally change and now things are fundamentally changing for the worse, what the hell dude?

Salus Maior wrote:

New haven america wrote:Everyone here thinks you do.

Such a childish retort. Literally playground material.