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Will the likely SCOTUS ruling on Dobbs v. Jackson change the dynamics of the Midterms?

Yes
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No
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A Bit of Both
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Don't Know
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Total votes : 245

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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 8:38 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:The neo-Nazi eco-fascist is so detached from reality and doesn't actually know what he's talking about. So, he doesn't know that landlords demanding sexual favors in lieu of rent from their tenants is actually a thing that happens and it seems to be happening a lot more than it should.


They can't do that unless they're rich enough to cover the rent or just not charge one. Its less viable unless the landlord owns the property outright and has no mortgage. Personally, I'd rather have rent get paid. You can't fund your retirement or lifestyle on what isn't cash flowing or appreciating in value.


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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 06, 2022 8:38 pm

Sounds like the thread has wound down for the night, imma head out. Laters gators.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 06, 2022 8:39 pm

Maricarland wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
They can't do that unless they're rich enough to cover the rent or just not charge one. Its less viable unless the landlord owns the property outright and has no mortgage. Personally, I'd rather have rent get paid. You can't fund your retirement or lifestyle on what isn't cash flowing or appreciating in value.


Landlords should not exist.


Neither should the bay city rollers, but alas.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby GuessTheAltAccount » Fri May 06, 2022 8:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Not how it works. You make the claim, you back it up.


of course it's hard to get out of the porn industry. No amount of up writing makes "adult film star" look good on a resume.

Depends on the job. Plenty of other professions are hard to break into as well if you're competing with someone who people who already know the boss or know someone who does as someone who knows neither. Meritocracy is a myth.

We need legislation to require transparency on employers' exact reasons for hiring or firing someone. I think discrimination against sex workers would be a little hard to defend among a public that tends to watch porn themselves.
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Postby Space Squid » Fri May 06, 2022 8:41 pm

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New haven america wrote:You're one to talk.

Cats aren't even a solid state of matter, they're liquid.


Listen here. I’m not running. Well, not for office at least. I run everywhere else. Cuz I’m liquid so fuck rules.

Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.
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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 8:45 pm

New haven america wrote:The issue with sex work legislation in America is because of the extremist Christian culture surrounding sex and sexuality in America. Something that most everyone has some experience with, yet it must be kept a taboo. It's perfectly acceptable for an 18-year-old to go to war and kill people, but spending an hour with a sex worker doing it in missionary? Might as well be a prison sentence and lifetime social ostracization.

Without this culture is can be legalized, regulated, and given funding in order to keep those involved safe. Just look at The Netherland and the other 1/2 of Western Europe. Also, contrary to popular logic, they also have the lowest STD and sexual assault rates in the world. Hm... (For comparison, the much more prudish America has some of the highest rates of both in the entire developed world)

But that's not going to happen here, because of the attitudes of most puritan descended Christians in the nation, who are still under the delusion that if you ban something then it'll automatically go away with no fuss or pushback. (We see how well that worked with prohibition) In fact, the only reason sex work is so demonized and unsafe to begin with is because of that fact.


This makes me wish so much that the puritans did not colonize North America.
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Postby Izandai » Fri May 06, 2022 8:46 pm

Space Squid wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Listen here. I’m not running. Well, not for office at least. I run everywhere else. Cuz I’m liquid so fuck rules.

Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.

Oof. Even as a joke, that's just hateful.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 06, 2022 8:48 pm

Maricarland wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
They can't do that unless they're rich enough to cover the rent or just not charge one. Its less viable unless the landlord owns the property outright and has no mortgage. Personally, I'd rather have rent get paid. You can't fund your retirement or lifestyle on what isn't cash flowing or appreciating in value.


Landlords should not exist.


And replace them with what?

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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 8:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
Landlords should not exist.


And replace them with what?


Public housing, social housing, housing cooperatives, owner-occupied housing, community land trusts...
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 06, 2022 8:49 pm

Maricarland wrote:
New haven america wrote:The issue with sex work legislation in America is because of the extremist Christian culture surrounding sex and sexuality in America. Something that most everyone has some experience with, yet it must be kept a taboo. It's perfectly acceptable for an 18-year-old to go to war and kill people, but spending an hour with a sex worker doing it in missionary? Might as well be a prison sentence and lifetime social ostracization.

Without this culture is can be legalized, regulated, and given funding in order to keep those involved safe. Just look at The Netherland and the other 1/2 of Western Europe. Also, contrary to popular logic, they also have the lowest STD and sexual assault rates in the world. Hm... (For comparison, the much more prudish America has some of the highest rates of both in the entire developed world)

But that's not going to happen here, because of the attitudes of most puritan descended Christians in the nation, who are still under the delusion that if you ban something then it'll automatically go away with no fuss or pushback. (We see how well that worked with prohibition) In fact, the only reason sex work is so demonized and unsafe to begin with is because of that fact.


This makes me wish so much that the puritans did not colonize North America.


Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri May 06, 2022 8:49 pm

Izandai wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.

Oof. Even as a joke, that's just hateful.


Heh, it is funny and I’m not offended. :lol2:
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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 8:49 pm

Izandai wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.

Oof. Even as a joke, that's just hateful.


Hateful, but soooooo true (about the right-wing libertarians).
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 06, 2022 8:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
Landlords should not exist.


And replace them with what?

Government funded housing. Housing Co-ops. Free housing. (Fun fact, there are more living spaces in America than there are people)
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri May 06, 2022 8:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
This makes me wish so much that the puritans did not colonize North America.


Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.

...Not sure what that has to do with wishing the Puritans didn't come here.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 06, 2022 8:51 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.

...Not sure what that has to do with wishing the Puritans didn't come here.


Because it’s a stupid statement.

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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 8:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
This makes me wish so much that the puritans did not colonize North America.


Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.


I did not say anything about the Americas being discovered by Europeans in the late 15th century. I was making a wish that the puritans were not one of the groups founding English colonies in North America because of the massive damage they did to our culture.
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 06, 2022 8:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Izandai wrote:Oof. Even as a joke, that's just hateful.


Heh, it is funny and I’m not offended. :lol2:

So we can expect you declaring your run as the Libertarian candidate any day now?
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 06, 2022 8:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
This makes me wish so much that the puritans did not colonize North America.


Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.

You know, you could like, actually try paying attention to people's posts sometime.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri May 06, 2022 8:55 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Heh, it is funny and I’m not offended. :lol2:

So we can expect you declaring your run as the Libertarian candidate any day now?


Gods, no. Too much work. Not enough belly rubs.
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Postby Picairn » Fri May 06, 2022 8:58 pm

Space Squid wrote:Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.

:lol: Stolen joke from Twitter.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 06, 2022 9:01 pm

Maricarland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.


I did not say anything about the Americas being discovered by Europeans in the late 15th century. I was making a wish that the puritans were not one of the groups founding English colonies in North America because of the massive damage they did to our culture.


It was going to happen, nothing was going to prevent it.

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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 06, 2022 9:02 pm

Maricarland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Can you stop with stupid takes like this? Nothing was going to stop the Americas from discovered.


I did not say anything about the Americas being discovered by Europeans in the late 15th century. I was making a wish that the puritans were not one of the groups founding English colonies in North America because of the massive damage they did to our culture.


For the record, this has fuck all to do with the Puritans. The puritans were absorbed by the Massachusetts bay colony and were never a major cultural force for the country at large, beyond a the cool story of the mayflower which we used to support the idea of manifest destiny. In reality our founders were all major horndogs who spent more of their lives drunk than sober. Hell, Martha Washington named her feral tomcat after Alexander Hamilton because that dude would schtup literally anyone.

Modern sexual moods were informed largely by the Second and Third Great Awakenings of the 19th century.
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Postby Space Squid » Fri May 06, 2022 9:03 pm

Picairn wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Besides, cats are fully convinced of their fierce independence. But utterly dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate.

So she'd run as a Libertarian.

:lol: Stolen joke from Twitter.

Reddit actually.

But yes.
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Maricarland
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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 9:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
I did not say anything about the Americas being discovered by Europeans in the late 15th century. I was making a wish that the puritans were not one of the groups founding English colonies in North America because of the massive damage they did to our culture.


It was going to happen, nothing was going to prevent it.


The Puritans left England due to religious persecution in England, had that persecution not occur, the Puritans would have been more than happy to remain in England, and other colonists would have travelled to the Eastern shore of North America with different cultural influences that would eventually be part of what grew into our current culture.

But I am not an alt-history writer. I was merely expressing my dissatisfaction with the impact that the Puritans had on U.S. culture that still remains to this day. How is expressing that dissatisfaction ridiculous or ignorant?
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Postby Maricarland » Fri May 06, 2022 9:11 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Maricarland wrote:
I did not say anything about the Americas being discovered by Europeans in the late 15th century. I was making a wish that the puritans were not one of the groups founding English colonies in North America because of the massive damage they did to our culture.


For the record, this has fuck all to do with the Puritans. The puritans were absorbed by the Massachusetts bay colony and were never a major cultural force for the country at large, beyond a the cool story of the mayflower which we used to support the idea of manifest destiny. In reality our founders were all major horndogs who spent more of their lives drunk than sober. Hell, Martha Washington named her feral tomcat after Alexander Hamilton because that dude would schtup literally anyone.

Modern sexual moods were informed largely by the Second and Third Great Awakenings of the 19th century.


You make a good point. I will expand my disdain to those spiritual movements as well. So many things about our history makes me despair or disgusted. I used to really like American history and want to celebrate it, but with a couple of exceptions I have grown to despise it.
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- Miss Frizzle (The Magic School Bus)

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