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Taiwan Invasion?: Is United States Going to War With China?

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Is Usa Going To War With China?

Yes, Tensions Are Very High
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Maybe, Tensions Are Going Steady A Bit
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Tensions Between The Nations are Very Little
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No, Tensions With Usa And China Are No Such Thing.
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Total votes : 172

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Postby Haganham » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

China has too much unrest to go to war atm. The real estate market is crashing and people have stopped paying mortgages on their nail structures. They're literally seizing people's savings to keep the bank solvent.
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Postby Hyidai » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:54 am

There would be riots in the streets if China attacked and the USA didn't defend. It would be a terrible decision for both parties to stand by.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:56 am

You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:01 am

Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.

IIRC Japan said that they would intervene.

Plus the US buys a lot of semiconductors from them so they would intervene as well.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:02 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.

IIRC Japan said that they would intervene.

Plus the US buys a lot of semiconductors from them so they would interventionist as well.

Go figure, although we knew that already. Isn't the Taiwan Relations Act 45ish years old? :P
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:21 am

Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.


good to know that eswatini will be bravely defending taiwan from a chinese invasion
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Postby Fourth Jellian Republic » Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:54 am

Haganham wrote:China has too much unrest to go to war atm. The real estate market is crashing and people have stopped paying mortgages on their nail structures. They're literally seizing people's savings to keep the bank solvent.


Actually I would argue unrest is the perfect time to become more belligerent, start yelling about an enemy.
It creates a distraction, gives purpose, and a common enemy.
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Postby Bovad » Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm

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I doubt it'll happen, but taiwan is rightfully chinese.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:24 pm

Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.

fourteen. darn, one number off!
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:09 am

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.

fourteen. darn, one number off!

The USA should defend Taiwan, it is the right thing to do. As a native Cuban and an American citizen, I am a strong supporter of Taiwan and the Chinese People, Taiwan is the one and only True China. I honor them with the nations of NS Taiwan China and NS Greater Taiwan China, as I call Taiwan. But I also have NS China, as communist China.

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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:45 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:fourteen. darn, one number off!

The USA should defend Taiwan, it is the right thing to do. As a native Cuban and an American citizen, I am a strong supporter of Taiwan and the Chinese People, Taiwan is the one and only True China. I honor them with the nations of NS Taiwan China and NS Greater Taiwan China, as I call Taiwan. But I also have NS China, as communist China.


China isn’t communist and hasn’t been for a long time. it’s an awful oppressive dictatorship, but it’s not actually communist, it just pretends to be, probably to garner the support of its people.
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Haganham
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Postby Haganham » Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:11 am

Fourth Jellian Republic wrote:
Haganham wrote:China has too much unrest to go to war atm. The real estate market is crashing and people have stopped paying mortgages on their nail structures. They're literally seizing people's savings to keep the bank solvent.


Actually I would argue unrest is the perfect time to become more belligerent, start yelling about an enemy.
It creates a distraction, gives purpose, and a common enemy.

That would have been true a few months ago, before things collapsed on their own.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:21 am

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The USA should defend Taiwan, it is the right thing to do. As a native Cuban and an American citizen, I am a strong supporter of Taiwan and the Chinese People, Taiwan is the one and only True China. I honor them with the nations of NS Taiwan China and NS Greater Taiwan China, as I call Taiwan. But I also have NS China, as communist China.


China isn’t communist and hasn’t been for a long time. it’s an awful oppressive dictatorship, but it’s not actually communist, it just pretends to be, probably to garner the support of its people.

True China has many capitalist policies, but it still calls itself communist, it is still an oppressive dictatorship like Cuba s oppressive dictatorship. It still is anti American, is still a threat to Taiwan, a multi, political party, democratic, Capitalist $, nation. Who do you guys support China or Taiwan? I support Taiwan. Should the USA support China or Taiwan? I say Taiwan. The OP should include the questions on the Poll, who do you support and who should the USA support? If the OP wishes to do so.
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Postby Thomasi » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:25 am

Two nuclear and economic powers going to war over an island of 23.5M people.

Absolutely not. If China invades, or declares war and wants to turn them into the province of Chinses Taipei let them.

Ridiculous to even think about WWIII over a tiny island.

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Postby Korwin » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:36 am

First off, the answers to OP's question are leading and biased af.

Second, people go ape over the fear that China will invade Taiwan every 5 years. So, no. China won't invade just because Russia, China's unstable and flagging frenemy bedfellow, is Lebensrauming a neighbor.

I'm willing to bet that the US will collapse into civil war much sooner than China would even contemplate invading Taiwan.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:00 pm

No, it's Wolf-Warrior diplomacy. It's the government looking tough to increase domestic support. It would be impractical to hold Taiwan even if the U.S. didn't defend them, and that's the reason why the ROC was able to remain there in the first place after the Chinese civil war.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:18 pm

Thomasi wrote:Two nuclear and economic powers going to war over an island of 23.5M people.

Absolutely not. If China invades, or declares war and wants to turn them into the province of Chinses Taipei let them.

Ridiculous to even think about WWIII over a tiny island.

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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Thomasi wrote:Two nuclear and economic powers going to war over an island of 23.5M people.

Absolutely not. If China invades, or declares war and wants to turn them into the province of Chinses Taipei let them.

Ridiculous to even think about WWIII over a tiny island.

The "tiny island" produces most high-end semiconductors.
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Postby Zeleniya » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:23 pm

Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.


That is because the rest of the world does not have the backbone to defend against the menace that is the mainland.

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Postby Thomasi » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:24 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Thomasi wrote:Two nuclear and economic powers going to war over an island of 23.5M people.

Absolutely not. If China invades, or declares war and wants to turn them into the province of Chinses Taipei let them.

Ridiculous to even think about WWIII over a tiny island.

The "tiny island" produces most high-end semiconductors.


Okay then have the US tell Taiwan that we will no longer be protecting your independence and to surrender to the PRC.

Cause yeah no fucking way will I support potentially getting into a full scale war with China where we'd likely have to have a draft.

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Postby Zeleniya » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:26 pm

Thomasi wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:The "tiny island" produces most high-end semiconductors.


Okay then have the US tell Taiwan that we will no longer be protecting your independence and to surrender to the PRC.

Cause yeah no fucking way will I support potentially getting into a full scale war with China where we'd likely have to have a draft.


Why not? The PLA, after all, is Made in China. :lol2:

But out of all seriousness, I doubt it will be as catastrophic for the US as a lot of the pessimistic observations like to paint it as.
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China could you like... you know.... not?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:45 am

Tinhampton wrote:You'd imagine that the number of countries willing to defend Taiwan in a conflict against PR China would be somewhere in the order of fifteen. But no.

is it just me or is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of ROC/Taiwan's site being DDOS'd?
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