Ukrainian Invasion Thread II: Sunrise on the Dnieper

[Vistulange]

Apparently the Ukrainian 95th Airborne liberated Horlivka. Did that get buried in the previous pages, or was I actually able to catch it?

Anyway—Slava Ukraini.

[The Lone Alliance]

Apparently the Ukrainian 95th Airborne liberated Horlivka. Did that get buried in the previous pages, or was I actually able to catch it?

Anyway—Slava Ukraini.

So even while being invaded by Russia they're able to conquer separatist territory.

[Saiwania]

Here's a great question: what's so special about the white race that they absolutely have to remain the majority population in the West?

Because Whites aren't a majority anywhere else in the world.

It is the want or need among many Whites to not see the White race trend towards demographic collapse or extinction due to low fertility combined with unlimited external pressures from non-White immigration.

And even assuming that Whites are here to stay, a strong desire to not see their own countries change beyond all recognition or to become a permanent/long term minority with less leverage and privileges to be had.

[El Lazaro]

Russia's supply issues might be so severe that up to 70% of their invasion force is running low on food and fuel. https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/stat ... 1712869379

In Nazi Ukraine, you get caught with your pants down. In Putin’s Russia, you catch the enemy with your pants down.

[Reginalida]

Here's a great question: what's so special about the white race that they absolutely have to remain the majority population in the West?

Because Whites aren't a majority anywhere else in the world.

It is the want or need among many Whites to not see the White race trend towards demographic collapse or extinction due to low fertility combined with unlimited external pressures from non-White immigration.

And even assuming that Whites are here to stay, a strong desire to not see their own countries change beyond all recognition or to become a permanent/long term minority with less leverage and privileges to be had.

The number of white people who actually give a shit about this are few and far between. Are, we're not actually all racists. The majority don't care if every baby from this point on is mixed. It wouldn't matter. Because race doesn't matter.

[Antipatros]

US & allies imposing more sanctions on Russia and Belarus

Today, the United States, in coordination with Allies and partners, is imposing additional economic costs on Russia and Belarus in response to President Putin’s brutal invasion of Ukraine. The United States will take actions to hold Belarus accountable for enabling Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, weaken the Russian defense sector and its military power for years to come, target Russia’s most important sources of wealth, and ban Russian airlines from U.S. airspace.

As a result of our historic, multilateral coordination, Russia has become a global economic and financial pariah. Over 30 countries representing well over half the world’s economy have announced sanctions and export controls targeting Russia. Russia is further isolated from the international financial and trade system. We are preventing Putin from accessing his war chest to soften the blow of our actions and support his invasion of Ukraine. The United States and governments all over the world are going after Putin’s cronies and their families by identifying and freezing the assets they hold in our respective jurisdictions – their yachts, luxury apartments, money, and other ill-gotten gains. And the United States and our Allies are acting in concert to minimize the impact of these measures on our economies, including through a coordinated release of 60 million barrels of oil from strategic reserves. We will continue to impose costs with Allies and partners so long as Putin continues to escalate.

Today’s actions include:

Sweeping restrictions on Belarus to choke off its import of technological goods in response to its support of Putin’s war of choice. The Department of Commerce will extend the stringent export control policies put in place for Russia to Belarus. This action will help prevent diversion of items, technologies, and software through Belarus to Russia and will significantly degrade both countries’ ability to sustain their military aggression and project power. This will severely limit the ability of Russia and Belarus to obtain the materials they need to support their military aggression against Ukraine, project power in ways that threaten regional stability and undermine global peace and security.

Full blocking sanctions on Russian defense entities. The Department of State will impose sweeping sanctions that target Russia’s defense sector to further restrict Putin’s war machine. This action will impose significant costs on Russian weapon development and production companies. In total, 22 Russian defense-related entities will be designated, including firms that make combat aircraft, infantry fighting vehicles, electronic warfare systems, missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles for Russia’s military.

Export Controls Targeting Oil Refining, a Key Revenue Source that Supports Russian Military. Through export controls on oil and gas extraction equipment, the Commerce Department will impose restrictions on technology exports that would support Russia’s refining capacity over the long term. The United States and our Allies and partners do not have a strategic interest in reducing the global supply of energy – which is why we have carved out energy payments from our financial sanctions. But we and our Allies and partners share a strong interest in degrading Russia’s status as a leading energy supplier over time. These actions will help further that goal, while protecting American consumers.

Targeting Entities Supporting the Russian and Belarusian Military. The Commerce Department, in coordination with its interagency partners, will add entities that have been involved in, contributed to, or otherwise supported the Russian and Belarusian security services, military and defense sectors, and/or military and defense research and development efforts to the Entity List. These actions will ensure that the military as well as the aerospace, maritime and high-technology sectors do not obtain U.S. technology goods and technology that can be used to support Russian technical maintenance and innovation.

Banning Russian aircraft from entering and using domestic U.S. airspace. As the President announced, the United States will close off American air space to all Russian flights – further isolating Russia – and adding an additional squeeze on its economy. This includes aircraft certified, operated, registered or controlled by any person connected with Russia. This includes revoking all Russian airlines’ – both passenger and cargo – ability to operate to and from U.S. destinations, as well as refusing entry of any Russian-operated aircraft into U.S. airspace. With this action, the United States stands with over 30 of the world’s most important aviation markets in denying Russian carriers the ability to conduct business.

Hearing report that 4 Russian jets just violated Swedish airspace
Trying to confirm

Ryska stridsflygplan kränkte svenskt luftrum

[The Federal State of Novorossiya]

Live Blog / Russia-Ukraine war live updates: Kharkiv under fresh attack, Biden says Putin more 'isolated' than ever

I added this because I feel like I needed to actually contribute to this thread, not derail it into races and demographics and what not.

[Union of the Blower States]

hi guys, did i miss something?

[The Lone Alliance]

hi guys, did i miss something?

You lost Horlivka apparently.

[Dtn]

Mass parachute attacks are literally a meme, the Russians haven't used them, and looking at a map of Kharkiv I think they most likely tried to land helicopters on the Kharkiv State Aircraft Manufacturing airstrip a couple of blocks away.

Yeah to be honest most of the airborne attacks Russia has used in Ukraine has been less "Mass Parachute" assault and more "Zerg Rush with Transport Helicopters with maybe a Token air drop ahead of time".

Even then there's videos out of MANPADs being used against one of these Swarm Airborne rushes and it's not pretty, not pretty at all.

The attack on Hostomel was the exact opposite of a Zerg rush (one wonders what the Protoss would do), and there hasn't been video or photographic evidence of a single transport helicopter lost.

[Union of the Blower States]

hi guys, did i miss something?

You lost Horlivka apparently.

Unfortunately or fortunately, we did not lose him. we are bombed (there are fights)

[Hispida]

Hello guys.

I'm a 55 year old Canadian woman who's worked with Vladimir Putin between 2011 and April 2013.
He was a nightmare to work with. Demanded we buy him red bikinis, then threw them out, demanding sunshine yellow ones, was obsessive over people taking photos of him wearing them. He was obsessed with how good he'd look in a bikini and getting a feminine body. Total femboy, really. No matter what you think of him as a hardman, he ain't that.

Plus, he also kept making crude jokes about "I wanna sleep with hot teenage guys, it'd be my fantasy, but my dick ain't hard enough. I'm old enough to be grandad, but fuck it."

Putin demanded you make a meal for eight people, but would only eat two dishes of it, and wasted a lot of the food.

I'm now back in Canada, living in Vancouver, thank god. I only took this job for the money, now I'm working in an Italian restaurant part-time but am in semi-retirement. I've worked as an audio engineer, and delivery driver, amongst other things.

I saw Vladimir Putin at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

oh jeez that meme is ANCIENT

[Tarsonis]

Now this is interesting. According to Ukraine, the FSB (Russian Intelligence) tipped the Ukraine government about the Chechyns being sent in to Kyiv. If true, that is a staggering development, for the Russian Intelligence to be undermining the invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... e-assassin

[Dtn]

Now this is interesting. According to Ukraine, the FSB (Russian Intelligence) tipped the Ukraine government about the Chechyns being sent in to Kyiv. If true, that is a staggering development, for the Russian Intelligence to be undermining the invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... e-assassin

FSB isn't a big fan of Kadyrov, they constantly leak stuff to Russian media about him.

[The Alma Mater]

Hello guys.

I'm a 55 year old Canadian woman who's worked with Vladimir Putin between 2011 and April 2013.
He was a nightmare to work with. Demanded we buy him red bikinis, then threw them out, demanding sunshine yellow ones, was obsessive over people taking photos of him wearing them. He was obsessed with how good he'd look in a bikini and getting a feminine body. Total femboy, really. No matter what you think of him as a hardman, he ain't that.

Plus, he also kept making crude jokes about "I wanna sleep with hot teenage guys, it'd be my fantasy, but my dick ain't hard enough. I'm old enough to be grandad, but fuck it."

Putin demanded you make a meal for eight people, but would only eat two dishes of it, and wasted a lot of the food.

I'm now back in Canada, living in Vancouver, thank god. I only took this job for the money, now I'm working in an Italian restaurant part-time but am in semi-retirement. I've worked as an audio engineer, and delivery driver, amongst other things.

I saw Vladimir Putin at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

I once helped Putins daughter grab an item from the top shelf in the supermarket.
(fun fact: this is actually true)

[Union of the Blower States]

The Russian Ministry of Defense for the first time reported on the losses in Ukraine: 498 soldiers were killed
The losses of the Ukrainian side, according to the department, amounted to 2870 people, about 3700 people were injured. In addition, the Ministry of Defense announced that it had captured 572 military armies of Ukraine.

"The information spread by many Western and individual Russian media about the allegedly" incalculable "losses of the Russian group is deliberate disinformation," said Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the department.

The numbers indicated by the Ministry of Defense are indeed significantly different from the data previously published by the Ukrainian authorities.
On Wednesday morning, the General Staff of Ukraine announced the losses of the Russian army at 5840 people (previously, the UNIAN agency specified that not only the dead, but also the wounded were entered in this column).

Earlier, Western media, citing their sources, estimated the number of dead Russian military at about 1.5 - 2 thousand.

Russian troops invaded Ukraine last Thursday, but until today the Defense Ministry, while admitting casualties, has not released any figures. However, the heads of the regions gradually began to publish separate messages about the dead.

On the eve of the death of two natives of Chechnya and the injury of six more, said the head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov. The governor of the Ulyanovsk region, Alexei Russkikh, spoke about two dead soldiers from the 31st airborne brigade.

What is known about the captured Russian military

The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine published an appeal in which it called on relatives of the Russian military to use the online platform "Look for yours" to search for information about the dead or captured military. The site "Look for your own" was blocked by Roskomnadzor on the same day at the request of the Prosecutor General's Office of Russia.

The Russian regional authorities announced that the purpose of such resources is to collect data on Russian military personnel "on order of Ukrainian and Western intelligence services."

[Heloin]

Now this is interesting. According to Ukraine, the FSB (Russian Intelligence) tipped the Ukraine government about the Chechyns being sent in to Kyiv. If true, that is a staggering development, for the Russian Intelligence to be undermining the invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... e-assassin

If your goal is also keeping Chechnya weak and preventing Kadyrov from even thinking about using his hyper militant dictatorship against Russia in the future it does make some kind of sense.

[Rio Cana]

According to WION news, the Belarus Pres. was seen with a large map which suggest Moldova is next. Has I said before, NATO cannot let Moldova, which just has 6000 troops, fall to the Russians. Romania should be convincing the Moldovan Pres. to allow Romanian troops to enter Moldova up to the Dniester river. East of the Dniester river is Transnistria which unofficially is its own nation. They have 2000 Russian troops plus 10000 local military.

[Chan Island]

Now this is interesting. According to Ukraine, the FSB (Russian Intelligence) tipped the Ukraine government about the Chechyns being sent in to Kyiv. If true, that is a staggering development, for the Russian Intelligence to be undermining the invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... e-assassin

It was probably intended to be a threat. Like a  ‘surrender to us because otherwise we’ll be deploying those war crimey psychos’ and the Ukrainians just went ‘thanks for letting us know’.

[Hispida]

According to WION news, the Belarus Pres. was seen with a large map which suggest Moldova is next. Has I said before, NATO cannot let Moldova, which just has 6000 troops, fall to the Russians. Romania should be convincing the Moldovan Pres. to allow Romanian troops to enter Moldova up to the Dniester river. East of the Dniester river is Transnistria which unofficially is its own nation. They have 2000 Russian troops plus 10000 local military.

that sounds almost tantamount to romanian annexation, something moldova adamantly does not want.

[The Archregimancy]

I've been looking at the list of countries that voted for and against the UN General Assembly resolution to condemn the Russian invasion.

Most countries voted more or less as we'd expect them to, but one vote for the resolution really stood out for me.

Serbia.

If Moscow has lost the support of the Serbs, then they should really start worrying.

The other votes that surprised me were those from the Gulf Cooperation Council nations, all of whom voted for the resolution despite some previous fence-sitting from the likes of the UAE. But the Serbian vote really raised an eyebrow; I would have expected them to abstain.

Honestly I'm not suprised.

For one their nation has been disintegrated by ethnic sepratism, which is what the Russians have been supoporting in Ukraine.

Secondly they're surrounded by NATO and the EU. They're gonna need new friends in the regions soon.

Thirdly its obvious to anyone that Russia is a sinking ship. Even if they "win" the war they've suffered a lot in terms of real world power. The only real reason they're not considered a regional power, at least imo, is because they have the largest nuclear arsenal. Shit goes down Serbia can't realistically rely on them for support.

Partly true.

With the important caveat that Russia has been positioning itself as Serbia's main supporter, has appointed itself as the chief opponent of Kosovo independence, and is deliberating building on a pan-Slavic discourse that dates back to the 19th century. Thread readers may remember what happened when Russia backed Serbia to the hilt in 1914, but those links have been an important part of political discourse in both nations for some 150 years now. And this is something that my [Russian] wife's family has direct experience of. Her grandfather was ordained a priest in Serbia, and my mother in law was born in Novi Sad. True, this is a personal anecdote, but it does mean that my wife's family has some experience of Serbian-Russian relations.

So yes, on a realpolitik level, Serbia's vote may have been a recognition that backing Russia under current circumstances may not be that sensible; and it's true that the Serbian statement over their vote made a passive-aggressive remark about the importance of territorial integrity. But all the same... from the longer view perspective this was a very real change of geopolitical emphasis for the Serbs; it matters.

[Rio Cana]

According to WION news, the Belarus Pres. was seen with a large map which suggest Moldova is next. Has I said before, NATO cannot let Moldova, which just has 6000 troops, fall to the Russians. Romania should be convincing the Moldovan Pres. to allow Romanian troops to enter Moldova up to the Dniester river. East of the Dniester river is Transnistria which unofficially is its own nation. They have 2000 Russian troops plus 10000 local military.

that sounds almost tantamount to romanian annexation, something moldova adamantly does not want.

Romania actually wants to annex Moldova but via a referendum. Moldovans are Romanian speakers and were part of Romania. They say at least 50% of Moldovans have Romanian passports. And Romania has been helping Moldova diversify its energy demands by connecting them to Romanian utilities. This will result in Moldova having to rely less on Russian energy sources.

[Dtn]

Now this is interesting. According to Ukraine, the FSB (Russian Intelligence) tipped the Ukraine government about the Chechyns being sent in to Kyiv. If true, that is a staggering development, for the Russian Intelligence to be undermining the invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... e-assassin

If your goal is also keeping Chechnya weak and preventing Kadyrov from even thinking about using his hyper militant dictatorship against Russia in the future it does make some kind of sense.

Kadyrov isn't just a dictator, he's a crimelord who openly defies the federal security services. That being said in 2014 the FSB was supposed to have couped Putin over him.

[The Lusatian Republic]

that sounds almost tantamount to romanian annexation, something moldova adamantly does not want.

Romania actually wants to annex Moldova but via a referendum. Moldovans are Romanian speakers and were part of Romania. They say at least 50% of Moldovans have Romanian passports. And Romania has been helping Moldova diversify its energy demands by connecting them to Romanian utilities.

Support for unification in Moldova isn't nearly as widespread as it is in Romania.

[Rio Cana]

Romania actually wants to annex Moldova but via a referendum. Moldovans are Romanian speakers and were part of Romania. They say at least 50% of Moldovans have Romanian passports. And Romania has been helping Moldova diversify its energy demands by connecting them to Romanian utilities.

Support for unification in Moldova isn't nearly as widespread as it is in Romania.

Before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 44% of Moldovans would go for union with Romania. Remember, Moldova includes Transnistria, and the small autonomous region Gagauzia which is majority Turkic. Both Transnistria and Gagauzia want nothing to do with uniting to Romania. So they could affect the poll numbers. These two territories would need to be cut out of any referendum and separated from Moldova. With what has been happening in Urkaine, more then likely many more Moldovans have changed there minds and vote in favor of joining Romania.