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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:42 am

Follow up Photo to this link i posted in the last thread showing a Russian tank, allegedly a T-90 being destroyed by Ukrainian forces after being abandoned near Kharkov

Here is the Tank engulfed in flames, NSFW but no gore

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Chan Island wrote:New thread smell. What a dreadful thread to smell that new smell for.


I do not love the smell of new thread in the morning.
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:42 am

anyways, what did i miss in the past six hours i've been asleep?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:42 am

Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.

And people spent years saying I was crazy for claiming Putin wanted to recreate the USSR.

And lo and behold: "Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome."
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Postby Tillania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:43 am

Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian dimension.

Well, that's not exactly a lie - but I doubt they meant it that way...
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:44 am

New haven america wrote:
Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.

And people spent years saying I was crazy for claiming Putin wanted to recreate the USSR.

god, i wish.

that he was trying to restore the USSR, i mean, not a neo-tsarist empire.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:44 am

The EU, we must be prepared for millions of Refugees from Ukraine. Especially if Putin and Russia win the war. He will annex the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts to Mother Russia to Make Mother Russia Great Again.

He might annex other parts of Ukraine. The ethnic Ukrainians in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts will self depopulate and and the ethnic Russian leaders will depopulate them. x numbers of ethnic Russian, anti Putin Persons, will self depopulate, but most will stay.

Putin can settle x numbers of ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, as long as they are loyal to Putin and Mother Russia.

Putin will set up a Pro Russian government in Ukraine, if he wins the war. Putin can grant the Pro Russia, Ethnic Russians in Ukraine dual Russian citizenship. If he wins the war. I Posted about this in more details on the first Ukraine, Russia war thread. Read my new sig for the duration of the Ukraine Russia War.

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Postby Asherahan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:44 am

Have the Russians won yet?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 am

Asherahan wrote:Have the Russians won yet?

The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

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Postby Chan Island » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:46 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Probably not a good sign for the Russians if their soldiers are even abandoning equipment that advanced though. Especially since they haven’t yet started the big attack that’s anticipated.


I've been trying to work out if the 'big attack' is on the table.

The whole incursion so far has been... weird.

There's no real back-up plan, the columns were largely unsupported, the armor and the infantry are operating independently, there's no real air support, very little artillery support...

This makes sense if the plan was literally just to power into Kyiv and declare victory. It makes sense if the plan was just to occupy the contested territories and dig in.

So either the plan changed last minute, or the whole strategy was completely misplaced...

...or this is a diversion.


I mean, in one sense, the entire war is a diversion. Russia was visibly a country in decline, a decline directly attributable to its leadership, and there’s nothing like a good military victory to make yourself popular again.

But that still leaves so many questions open. The corruption, the lack of really any excuse, the fact that even a lot of the troops didn’t know they’d be invading, the terrible and confusing strategy, the shoddy logistics….

The history books will describe this war richly, that’s for sure.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:46 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Have the Russians won yet?

The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

Not really, they are just struggling in some places and seem to be taking a decent amount of losses but are still advancing and gaining territory.
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Postby Asherahan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:48 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Have the Russians won yet?

The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?
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Postby Tillania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:50 am

Asherahan wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?

Still clinging to the pathetic lie that this is a liberation.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:50 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Have the Russians won yet?

The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.


That’s an exaggeration. Yes, the Ukrainians are doing very well, better than anyone would have predicted, but every day they lose ground and have a much harder time replacing losses (especially of equipment) than the invaders do.

Asherahan wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?


They expected the Russian-speaking Ukrainians to welcome them in open arms. By all accounts they reckoned this war would be over by now.

Also, why haven’t they massacred potentially tens of thousands of people they want to be seen as the good guys by? Gee whizz, what a question…
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Postby Bursken » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:50 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Have the Russians won yet?

The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.



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Postby Grenartia » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:51 am

Asherahan wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The Russians are kind of loosing against the Ukrainians.

For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?


Why do you want Russia to commit war crimes in its already blatantly imperialist war of aggression?
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Postby Asherahan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:51 am

Tillania wrote:
Asherahan wrote:For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?

Still clinging to the pathetic lie that this is a liberation.
Nice callous attitude, by the way.

Wait they are still going with the "oh we are liberating you stick"?
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Postby Asherahan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:52 am

Grenartia wrote:
Asherahan wrote:For fucks sake they have one of the largest pools of Artillery pieces in the world why haven't they levelled Kharkov and Kiev already and be done with this?


Why do you want Russia to commit war crimes in its already blatantly imperialist war of aggression?

It is not that I want them to commit war crimes its that I hate shit being done half measure EVERYONE knows this is a imperialist war of aggression can't they just act like it already and spare us the drama?
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Postby Bursken » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:52 am

Chan Island wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
I've been trying to work out if the 'big attack' is on the table.

The whole incursion so far has been... weird.

There's no real back-up plan, the columns were largely unsupported, the armor and the infantry are operating independently, there's no real air support, very little artillery support...

This makes sense if the plan was literally just to power into Kyiv and declare victory. It makes sense if the plan was just to occupy the contested territories and dig in.

So either the plan changed last minute, or the whole strategy was completely misplaced...

...or this is a diversion.


I mean, in one sense, the entire war is a diversion. Russia was visibly a country in decline, a decline directly attributable to its leadership, and there’s nothing like a good military victory to make yourself popular again.




Oh good, just like the old Tsar when he lost to Japan. Remember what happened after?
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:53 am

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Postby Asherahan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:54 am

Bursken wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
I mean, in one sense, the entire war is a diversion. Russia was visibly a country in decline, a decline directly attributable to its leadership, and there’s nothing like a good military victory to make yourself popular again.




Oh good, just like the old Tsar when he lost to Japan. Remember what happened after?

Or Argentina and the Falklands.
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Hispida wrote:anyways, what did i miss in the past six hours i've been asleep?

Russia shuts down stock market to prevent economic collapse. Can't have a stock market crash if you don't have a stock market. Probably a correct decision: both Sberbank and Tinkoff Bank, two of the largest Russian banks overseas, shrinks by 75-80% in their London listing.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:54 am

Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.


Why? In the past 500 years how many of those years has the Ukraine been a separate nation?
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:55 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.


Why? In the past 500 years how many of those years has the Ukraine been a separate nation?

a good 700-ish, more like.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:55 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Chan Island wrote:https://twitter.com/sea_inside3/status/1498065730042011648?t=yDrWY3TSZWiW6cMB5cdn-A&s=08

Did anybody post this btw on the old thread? One of Russia’s main news sites accidentally posted their “victory” article, and it’s a wild freaking read. Hardly the words of a sane nation, it must be said.


Why? In the past 500 years how many of those years has the Ukraine been a separate nation?


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