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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:36 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

Most people here know what Groypers believe.

I would like to hear a whole list then. Nick has made fun of and deradicalized members of the alt-right.


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:38 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
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So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.


Just spouting Russian propaganda doesn’t answer my question does it?
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:38 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.


Well, Russia wants to destroy Western civilization and the organizations that protect it.
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:39 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.

NATO isn't that based
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:40 pm

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So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.


It's not even a great suggestion that Ukraine was going to get nuclear weapons, more an observation that the agreement that everyone entered into when Ukraine surrendered their nuclear weapons was broken. Which should be obvious since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and Russia was a signatory to guarantee Ukrainian security.

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.


That is a very wrong statement of fhe point of NATO. If NATO was about destroying Russia then NATO members wouldn't be Russias biggest trading partners.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:46 pm

Just asking, is anyone still using Kaspersky as an AV? If so, how do you trust the Russian based company with Putin as a de-facto totalitarian?
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Postby Alexander-of-Macedon » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:49 pm

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Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:I would like to hear a whole list then. Nick has made fun of and deradicalized members of the alt-right.


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.

can you make the list more comprehensive please? instead of using those titles to dismiss everything I have to say, At first I was a Skeptic of the Groypers I heard the whole ben shapiro breakdown but now I realize there all grifters trying to milk us for money. They complain about censorship meanwhile there not banned from most major platforms. Nick has been deplatformed from everywhere every corperation, every bank, the FBI ETC.. My final redpill. if we want to discuss this more we can take it to the American Politics thread. I do not want to threadjack this thread.

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:54 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.

can you make the list more comprehensive please? instead of using those titles to dismiss everything I have to say, At first I was a Skeptic of the Groypers I heard the whole ben shapiro breakdown but now I realize there all grifters trying to milk us for money. They complain about censorship meanwhile there not banned from most major platforms. Nick has been deplatformed from everywhere every corperation, every bank, the FBI ETC.. My final redpill. if we want to discuss this more we can take it to the American Politics thread. I do not want to threadjack this thread.

https://ugetube.com/watch/nick-fuentes- ... TG6ZS.html


No, thank you. And Nick gets banned on purpose for clicks and attention…mostly from young boys and men. And he enjoys it. Not because he’s misogynistic, it’s because he’s a practicing homosexual.


I’m finished talking about Nicky “boy lover” Fuentes in this thread.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:55 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.

If that was true, don't you think they would've destroyed Russia in 1949?
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Postby Free Hyperborea » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:56 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:I would like to hear a whole list then. Nick has made fun of and deradicalized members of the alt-right.


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.[/

“White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.”

What’s so horrible about that? Honestly.If other groups such as Jews,Arabs,and the Japanese can have those beliefs why can’t whites? And for the record Nick isn’t a WN he’s explicitly denied being that and if you actually did research on him you’d know he has quite a few non-white fans and friends.I guess he’s better described as a “white majoritarian” ash he believes America should remain a white majority nation.Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.

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Postby Alexander-of-Macedon » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:57 pm

Free Hyperborea wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.[/

“White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.”

What’s so horrible about that? Honestly.If other groups such as Jews,Arabs,and the Japanese can have those beliefs why can’t whites? And for the record Nick isn’t a WN he’s explicitly denied being that and if you actually did research on him you’d know he has quite a few non-white fans and friends.I guess he’s better described as a “white majoritarian” ash he believes America should remain a white majority nation.Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.

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Postby Adamede » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:59 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:Here's my take Biden was a Warhawk he foolishly went out and asked for a regime change. Zelenski threatened nuclear rearmerant and joining NATO, This could have all been settled in 2014. A few bits of land could have been taken or the establishment of a buffer state. Hell maybe Ukraine could have just stayed neutral and all these people would not have died on both sides. Biden asking for a regime change only escalates the situation and solidifies Putins claims. Im not even the biggest Putin fan.

Dont give me any of the NATO is a defensive Alliance BS it is only one when it wants.

Dumb take, seems to be a pattern.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:00 pm

Free Hyperborea wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.[/

“White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.”

What’s so horrible about that? Honestly.If other groups such as Jews,Arabs,and the Japanese can have those beliefs why can’t whites? And for the record Nick isn’t a WN he’s explicitly denied being that and if you actually did research on him you’d know he has quite a few non-white fans and friends.I guess he’s better described as a “white majoritarian” ash he believes America should remain a white majority nation.Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.


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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:01 pm

Free Hyperborea wrote:Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:02 pm

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What do you work on at the sukhoi design bureau?

I am not allowed to discuss the precise projects my unit has been working on- but the allowed ones include the T-50 5th gen fighter, T-75 export light fighter, and the S-70 Drone.

Also the planes which we aren’t developing but are still using such as the Su-27 family.

Why are you asking though?
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Postby Adamede » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:05 pm

Free Hyperborea wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:


Denying The Holocaust. White nationalist.

That’s all I need to know that your movement is a shit movement. It’s also the most sad and pathetic far right group currently active in the United States and Europe.[/

“White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.”

What’s so horrible about that? Honestly.If other groups such as Jews,Arabs,and the Japanese can have those beliefs why can’t whites? And for the record Nick isn’t a WN he’s explicitly denied being that and if you actually did research on him you’d know he has quite a few non-white fans and friends.I guess he’s better described as a “white majoritarian” ash he believes America should remain a white majority nation.Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.

Don't play dumb dude, you're not cute enough to pull it off.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:05 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Zelenski caused the war by suggesting the country could reacquire nuclear weapons after Russia was already making aggressive moves.

And that still doesn’t answer the question of why he was calling for the country to join NATO.

The point of NATO is to destroy Russia or surround it.

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In all seriousness though, sure, surrounding Russia by allowing nations seeking protection from an imperialistic attacker is such a bad thing, poorrusque!
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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:11 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Free Hyperborea wrote:Also he’s not a Holocaust denier you’re referring to that one clip of him where he gets a donation during a stream and makes a joke about it not being possible to bake 6 million batches of cookies in 5 years or something, if I remember correctly.

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Fuentes has said more than that. Praised Hitler and such. But given his contradictions I am not sure if he is a true believer hiding behind the “it’s just a joke/ironic” thing or just a massive troll.

I am leaning towards troll.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:13 pm

Free Hyperborea wrote:“White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.”

What’s so horrible about that? Honestly.If other groups such as Jews,Arabs,and the Japanese can have those beliefs why can’t whites?


Because, besides being an absolute generalization of all of those ethnic groups, those who do hold those beliefs shouldn't.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:13 pm

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
What do you work on at the sukhoi design bureau?

I am not allowed to discuss the precise projects my unit has been working on- but the allowed ones include the T-50 5th gen fighter, T-75 export light fighter, and the S-70 Drone.

Also the planes which we aren’t developing but are still using such as the Su-27 family.

Why are you asking though?


You could maybe see if you can defect, that background could be useful.
Not sure if you can get a way to visit a NATO embassy, preferably outside Russia without getting noticed.

Make sure to use a VPN when saying stuff like this though.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Alexander-of-Macedon » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:13 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
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He has said more than that. Praised Hitler and such. But given his contradictions I am not sure if he is a true believer hiding behind the “it’s just a joke/ironic” thing or just a massive troll.

I am leaning towards troll.

Wow I thought leftists were forgiving and understanding when people mess up.

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Postby Adamede » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:15 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Novus America wrote:
He has said more than that. Praised Hitler and such. But given his contradictions I am not sure if he is a true believer hiding behind the “it’s just a joke/ironic” thing or just a massive troll.

I am leaning towards troll.

Wow I thought leftists were forgiving and understanding when people mess up.

Do you think Alexander was a top or a bottom, since we're saying shit unrelated to Ukraine.
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Postby Alexander-of-Macedon » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:15 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
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He has said more than that. Praised Hitler and such. But given his contradictions I am not sure if he is a true believer hiding behind the “it’s just a joke/ironic” thing or just a massive troll.

I am leaning towards troll.

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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:16 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
When did Zelenski call for nuclear rearmament, and why is he calling for Ukraine to join NATO?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/presiden ... n-responds


He did not said he would, he said he might IF Russia invaded.
Russia did anyways and clearly had planned it long before that. So not a good justification.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:16 pm

Alexander-of-Macedon wrote:
Novus America wrote:
He has said more than that. Praised Hitler and such. But given his contradictions I am not sure if he is a true believer hiding behind the “it’s just a joke/ironic” thing or just a massive troll.

I am leaning towards troll.

Wow I thought leftists were forgiving and understanding when people mess up.

Except that they do.

A year ago I held views that were WAY more messed up than yours are- and when I’ve grappled enough power in me to confront and reject them they’ve accepted me.

Except that in your case nothing shows that you’ve taken any steps in that direction so the blame is on you pal!
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