Ukrainian Invasion Thread II: Sunrise on the Dnieper

[Bombadil]

Putin won't go nuclear, but it's no surprise there's a lot of chatter about it.

I really don't think anyone can say for certain, no one knows what's going on in that man's head right now, hopefully it's 'how do I make a dignified exit from this mess'.. as opposed to 'if I burn everyone burns..'

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

they didn't even pull business from China and they're systematically genociding people

Ah but the West stopped caring about that years ago.

The Olympics should have been held elsewhere (such as Norway or the US) with every country invited except for one or two.

That's what I would have done. Beijing 2022 shouldn't have happened.

[Dtn]

Putin won't go nuclear, but it's no surprise there's a lot of chatter about it.

I don't think Putin is going that far for Ukraine. But who knows what that madman is thinking right now

In the past you'd often see people repeating Putin's talking points, but now even Tucker Carlson has stopped.

His conventional army is now seen as a literal joke, Europe doesn't seem to be scared of his economic blackmail, his propaganda machine is failing.

Nuclear threats are now the only option he has for manipulating public opinion in the West.

[The H Corporation]

Ah but the West stopped caring about that years ago.

The Olympics should have been held elsewhere (such as Norway or the US) with every country invited except for one or two.

That's what I would have done. Beijing 2022 shouldn't have happened.

And sadly it's still happening. We all know about Qatar hosting the World Cup

[San Lumen]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/vla ... 1.html?amp

Vladimir Putin stripped of honorary black belt by World Taekwondo

[Balheim]

Ah but the West stopped caring about that years ago.

The Olympics should have been held elsewhere (such as Norway or the US) with every country invited except for one or two.

That's what I would have done. Beijing 2022 shouldn't have happened.

Somewhere in the East, preferably. Western nations have had the vast majority of the Olympics.

[The H Corporation]

I don't think Putin is going that far for Ukraine. But who knows what that madman is thinking right now

In the past you'd often see people repeating Putin's talking points, but now even Tucker Carlson has stopped.

His conventional army is now seen as a literal joke, Europe doesn't seem to be scared of his economic blackmail, his propaganda machine is failing.

Nuclear threats are now the only option he has for manipulating public opinion in the West.

That is probably the only reason why Russia has even been considered a power not to mess with if you make them angry

[Pangurstan]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/vladimir-putin-taekwondo-black-belt-b2025031.html?amp

Vladimir Putin stripped of honorary black belt by World Taekwondo

Now Russia's gonna collapse

[Tarsonis]

The Olympics should have been held elsewhere (such as Norway or the US) with every country invited except for one or two.

That's what I would have done. Beijing 2022 shouldn't have happened.

Somewhere in the East, preferably. Western nations have had the vast majority of the Olympics.

Sadly, China was the only country in the east that really had the infrastructure to host it

[Picairn]

Japan imposes sanctions on Putin, as well as Foreign and Defense Ministers of Russia

[New haven america]

Currently the best option that might end the war is if the US and NATO made it clear that Ukraine will never be a NATO member. This isn't a concession to Russia as Ukraine was never going to join NATO anyway, and it lets Putin it as an excuse for ending an invasion that so far hasn't gone well for him.

No it's not.

Ukraine just signed it's EU application anyway, so...

[Kot Unduk]

With the "40-mile" convoy headed to Kiev, you start to wonder why Ukraine's "functional" airforce isn't spraying it with bullets.

[The H Corporation]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/vladimir-putin-taekwondo-black-belt-b2025031.html?amp

Vladimir Putin stripped of honorary black belt by World Taekwondo

Not going to do anything, but hey! At least I know Putin used to have the blackbelt in Taekwondo

[Balheim]

Somewhere in the East, preferably. Western nations have had the vast majority of the Olympics.

Sadly, China was the only country in the east that really had the infrastructure to host it

Very good point.

[Adamede]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/vladimir-putin-taekwondo-black-belt-b2025031.html?amp

Vladimir Putin stripped of honorary black belt by World Taekwondo

Damn and here goes all of Putin's power.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Somewhere in the East, preferably. Western nations have had the vast majority of the Olympics.

Sadly, China was the only country in the east that really had the infrastructure to host it

It's sad we don't reuse arenas...Pyongchang was right there....

[Saiwania]

Vladimir Putin stripped of honorary black belt by World Taekwondo

The honorary statuses martial arts may grant is rediculous to me. There shouldn't be any. An individual either has the knowledge/skills/physical ability to fight or use the art or they don't. It can't be taken away practically speaking, once they're trained enough and don't get too disabled/rusty/out of practice.

[Umeria]

Currently the best option that might end the war is if the US and NATO made it clear that Ukraine will never be a NATO member. This isn't a concession to Russia as Ukraine was never going to join NATO anyway, and it lets Putin it as an excuse for ending an invasion that so far hasn't gone well for him.

No it's not.

Ukraine just signed it's EU application anyway, so...

Why not, and what does the EU have to do with NATO membership?

[Tarsonis]

With the "40-mile" convoy headed to Kiev, you start to wonder why Ukraine's "functional" airforce isn't spraying it with bullets.

Clearly you don't understand what air superiority is

[The H Corporation]

No it's not.

Ukraine just signed it's EU application anyway, so...

Why not, and what does the EU have to do with NATO membership?

Throwing Ukraine under the bus is definitely not in the cards of the US

[Picairn]

With the "40-mile" convoy headed to Kiev, you start to wonder why Ukraine's "functional" airforce isn't spraying it with bullets.

We'll see if Ukraine still has some Bayraktar drones around to blast the convoy to pieces.

[Kot Unduk]

With the "40-mile" convoy headed to Kiev, you start to wonder why Ukraine's "functional" airforce isn't spraying it with bullets.

Clearly you don't understand what air superiority is

Pardon me? That' the point I'm making.

[Umeria]

Why not, and what does the EU have to do with NATO membership?

Throwing Ukraine under the bus is definitely not in the cards of the US

Ukraine never had a chance to join NATO. Acknowledging that fact is not throwing Ukraine under the bus.

[The Commonwealth of Tennessee]

With the "40-mile" convoy headed to Kiev, you start to wonder why Ukraine's "functional" airforce isn't spraying it with bullets.

High risk of being shot down, especially when you consider that convoy is probably expecting something exactly like that to happen. Also, perhaps a limited amount of airmen to fly airframes. Said airframes could also be low on munitions and submunitions suited to ground attack. RUSFED is playing risky like this because they know they can. While RUSFED hasn't secured the airspace, even nearly a week into the invasion, UA's air reserve isn't something to throw in the general direction of a Russian spearhead.

Ukraine should continue to do strategic strikes on RUSFED supply structure and hurt them on a logistics side. If RUSFED can't properly fuel, supply, and feed their own army, then UA is doing something right.

[Adamede]

Somewhere in the East, preferably. Western nations have had the vast majority of the Olympics.

Sadly, China was the only country in the east that really had the infrastructure to host it

What about Japan?