Ukrainian Invasion Thread II: Sunrise on the Dnieper

[Gallia-]

It really doesn't, or at least not in the English I speak and heard (who says "bitch" when they spill milk on the counter?). "Fuck" is a closer approximation, or "darn" for Americans I guess.

dagnabbit

I usually say "heck" or "darn" cos I'm a good wholesome boi.

[Ethel mermania]

Sen. Roger WIcker (R-MS) calls for a no-fly zone ove Ukraine


these idiots

Well yes, I agree.

On the bright side this makes a Trump 2024 run less likely

[Adamede]

Trudeau says the Canadian government plans to ban imports of Russian crude oil into the country

Not personally much of a fan of Trudeau or his politics but if he does that he and Canada will have earned my respect.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/i ... with-putin

The Met says it will no longer work with artists with Putin ties

[Gallia-]

Trudeau says the Canadian government plans to ban imports of Russian crude oil into the country

Not personally much of a fan of Trudeau or his politics but if he does that he and Canada will have earned my respect.

Canada doesn't import any Russian oil so it's not a hard decision lol.

[Saiwania]

Trudeau says the Canadian government plans to ban imports of Russian crude oil into the country

It just means Canada will have higher energy prices, unless they can increase or source more production/supply of fuel to replace what is discontinued. The keystone pipeline being gone is just giving the US one less option in the tool kit.

[Kowani]

Not personally much of a fan of Trudeau or his politics but if he does that he and Canada will have earned my respect.

Canada doesn't import any Russian oil so it's not a hard decision lol.

canada imported $555 million worth of Russian oil just 2 years ago

[Shekelesh]

I can no longer say that I think it's unlikely for Putin to order a nuclear strike whether on Ukraine solely or otherwise, in the event that they are unable to achieve victory. Whether or not that order would be carried out is another matter.

[The Commonwealth of Tennessee]

Not at all likely. He'd truly have lost it at that point, I would see him flatten Kyiv faster than he'd do that much.

He and medev have said a world without Russia is not worth having. The words are very scary.

That is quite childish of them. I think Russia has done enough on the world stage to cement it's position as a permanent state. Perhaps he was referring to Russia's capability to project a sphere of influence.

[San Lumen]

I can no longer say that I think it's unlikely for Putin to order a nuclear strike whether on Ukraine solely or otherwise, in the event that they are unable to achieve victory. Whether or not that order would be carried out is another matter.

Putin is not that dumb to nuke Ukraine.

[Kowani]

Trudeau says the Canadian government plans to ban imports of Russian crude oil into the country

It just means Canada will have higher energy prices, unless they can increase or source more production/supply of fuel to replace what is discontinued. The keystone pipeline being gone is just giving the US one less option in the tool kit.

what do you mean "gone"
the bit of the pipeline that biden blocked was only 9% complete lmfao

[Ethel mermania]

He and medev have said a world without Russia is not worth having. The words are very scary.

That is quite childish of them. I think Russia has done enough on the world stage to cement it's position as a permanent state. Perhaps he was referring to Russia's capability to project a sphere of influence.

I think it's more referring to the current Russian government

For example the threat of western war crimes trials for Russian leadership

[Shekelesh]

I can no longer say that I think it's unlikely for Putin to order a nuclear strike whether on Ukraine solely or otherwise, in the event that they are unable to achieve victory. Whether or not that order would be carried out is another matter.

Putin is not that dumb to nuke Ukraine.

It's not about stupidity. I wish it was because you can talk stupid people out of doing things. This is potentially much, much darker and worse.

[Ethel mermania]

Canada doesn't import any Russian oil so it's not a hard decision lol.

canada imported $555 million worth of Russian oil just 2 years ago

Tell the truth. You couldn't get last years #

[Adamede]

I can no longer say that I think it's unlikely for Putin to order a nuclear strike whether on Ukraine solely or otherwise, in the event that they are unable to achieve victory. Whether or not that order would be carried out is another matter.

i don't know about nuclear but they are breaking out the big guns.

[San Lumen]

Putin is not that dumb to nuke Ukraine.

It's not about stupidity. I wish it was because you can talk stupid people out doing things. This is potentially much, much darker and worse.

Putin is not going to drop a nuclear warhead on Ukraine.

[Adamede]

canada imported $555 million worth of Russian oil just 2 years ago

Tell the truth. You couldn't get last years #

Canada imported just C$289m (£170m) worth of energy products in 2021, according to Statistics Canada.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60564781

[El Lazaro]

Just in from Reuters: the 17 mile long Russian convoy due for Kyiv has been re-estimated to be 40 miles by new satellite imaging.

[Infected Mushroom]

Hear me out... Putin is all for world peace. His method is to make literally the rest of the world hate him.

Eren Yeager?

[Hispida]

so ive had a shitty day. what's going on

[Adamede]

so ive had a shitty day. what's going on

Pretty sure its confirmed that Russia is using thermobraic weapons in Ukraine now, with the reported use of one near Sumy. Also according to DW talks have broken down.

[The Commonwealth of Tennessee]

That is quite childish of them. I think Russia has done enough on the world stage to cement it's position as a permanent state. Perhaps he was referring to Russia's capability to project a sphere of influence.

I think it's more referring to the current Russian government

For example the threat of western war crimes trials for Russian leadership

Sounds about right, still extremely childish.

[The Nihilistic view]

Supposedly, this entire war could be about Russia's geo-strategic concerns, with high similarities to why the US invaded Iraq in 2003. WMDs were a lie that covered up the true motives of the Bush administration.

Russia basically built pipelines to transport oil/natural gas through Ukraine as the Soviet Union, but didn't build as much infrastructure in the other ex-Soviet states. When Ukraine suddenly became independent, Russia had to keep paying tariffs to use Ukraine to transport the resources to European customers. Russia finds the tariffs to be a burden and wants to avoid Ukraine altogether in building pipelines that take alternative routes, but can't if its found that Ukraine has valuable natural gas deposits around Crimea and in east and west Ukraine.

Now suddenly Ukraine can be a disruptive competitor to Russia's energy exports that Russia doesn't want. This invasion is Russia's attempt to take out a major threat to its governmental budget/GDP.

If that's the case then Russia has spectacularly failed in a scale that has never been seen before, like there hasn't been such a geopolitical decision disaster since Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

Yeah but at least he took Kuwait in a somewhat competent fashion.

[Rio Cana]

According to this YT. map maker, the following day five map of the war shows who controls what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXeEjG2SjDk

[Kowani]

canada imported $555 million worth of Russian oil just 2 years ago

Tell the truth. You couldn't get last years #

i had them and then the source didn't specify enough between "oil and metals" so