Adamede wrote:Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
Dead kids can’t grow up to be neo-Nazis after all.
How many actual nazis has Russia killed so far ?
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by The Alma Mater » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:15 am
Adamede wrote:Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
Dead kids can’t grow up to be neo-Nazis after all.
by Luminesa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:15 am
Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
by Holy Tedalonia » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:16 am
Untecna wrote:Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
Can't see how people can still support Russia.
by The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:16 am
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:When you consider the background to the Irish Civil War (1921, I think, or was it 1922?)
by Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:19 am
Gallia- wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:They were forcibly removed by Stalin. It would be nice if Russia stopped raping and looting others land.
Nice for the people who live, sure.
But who is going to actually do it?
And why would anyone do it for a long displaced group of people like Crimean Tatars, and not for a much more relevant group of people, like Ukrainians?
by Cisairse » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:20 am
by The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:20 am
by Adamede » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:21 am
Untecna wrote:Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
Can't see how people can still support Russia.
by Holy Tedalonia » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:22 am
by Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:22 am
The Archregimancy wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
How many actual nazis has Russia killed so far ?
Many thousands if you accept the current Russian definition of 'Nazi'. As this seems to encompass Jewish political leaders with family members who fought in the Great Patriotic War, and who also lost family in the Holocaust, we might want to take that definition with a pinch of salt.
Given that the Russian forces have also bombed a memorial to one of the worst atrocities in the Holocaust and have chosen a reverse half-swastika as their main emblem for the conflict, they're certainly sending out some conflicting messaging on this one.
by Adamede » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:23 am
by New Baltenstein » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:24 am
The Archregimancy wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
How many actual nazis has Russia killed so far ?
Many thousands if you accept the current Russian definition of 'Nazi'. As this seems to encompass Jewish political leaders with family members who fought in the Great Patriotic War, and who also lost family in the Holocaust, we might want to take that definition with a pinch of salt.
Given that the Russian forces have also bombed a memorial to one of the worst atrocities in the Holocaust and have chosen a reverse half-swastika as their main emblem for the conflict, they're certainly sending out some conflicting messaging on this one.
by Holy Tedalonia » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:28 am
by Adamede » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:30 am
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Adamede wrote:Once or twice. But I’m talking about mainly what I see online because I’m an asocial shut in with no social life to speak of.
Fair enough. Personally wouldn't put much stock in people's opinions online. It's hard to genuinely know unironic beliefs. Funnily enough I did meet a guy who thought "Hitler was a genius," in person. Kinda wished I roasted that mf nowadays.
by The Alma Mater » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:31 am
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:35 am
Adamede wrote:That’s how war has always been.
by Grave_n_idle » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:36 am
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:38 am
The Archregimancy wrote:The Irish Civil War is traditionally dated from June 1922 to May 1923. It began in the immediate aftermath of pro-treaty candidates winning the June 1922 Irish general election, and ended with anti-treaty leaders calling a ceasefire in May 1923.
by Adamede » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:40 am
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Adamede wrote:That’s how war has always been.
I'd actually argue otherwise - before the advent of peaceful international norms (which raises the diplomatic costs of war), industrialised firepower (which raises the physical costs of war), and international trade (which raises the economic costs of war), countries could and very often did make war "worth it" as long as they won and could then seize stuff from the defeated enemy.
To the contrary, even if Ukraine kicks out every Russian soldier out of its pre-2014 borders tomorrow morning it would still be far worse off, as a people and also as a state, than it was on the 23rd of February. Similarly, if Kyiv and Lviv falls overnight and Putin gets to install whoever he likes in the Ukrainian government tomorrow, Russia, both as a people and also as a state, would still be worse off than it was on the 23rd of February.
The changing technological environment has drastically changed the calculations from the perspective of anyone who thinks about starting a war as a means of achieving whatever it is that they want.
by Suriyanakhon » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:40 am
by Utquiagvik » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:44 am
Luminesa wrote:Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
Monsters.
by Deblar » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:46 am
Picairn wrote:Russian airstrike destroys children's hospital in Mariupol
Denazification so effective, it even wipes out the kids! /s
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