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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:40 am

Keemstar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
But are they a man or a woman? After all biology dictates gender.


whatever their genitalia is also an exception, not the rule.


Id like to know why you think this bill is a good idea and how you don't see the harm it could cause to gay teens by outing them to potentially unaccepting parents.

Why shouldn't children by taught being gay is acceptable and about LGBT issues? Plus this bill could also harm children of same sex couples as well.
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:40 am

you could make the argument im alt-lite but that would still be a stretch.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:41 am

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The British government is a bunch of whiney libs also I have never heard of these sources and I'm not convinced. Gender and sex used to be the same thing to you changed the definition.


Jsut because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them wrong.
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Postby Hukhalia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:41 am

how about you stop basing your politics off of meaningless labels and actually get in touch with the present state of things
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
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whatever their genitalia is also an exception, not the rule.


Id like to know why you think this bill is a good idea and how you don't see the harm it could cause to gay teens by outing them to potentially unaccepting parents.

Why shouldn't children by taught being gay is acceptable and about LGBT issues? Plus this bill could also harm children of same sex couples as well.


the world does not revolve around what you think no one else should have to listen to your dumb opinions if they don't want to be declared a bigot.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:42 am

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The British government is a bunch of whiney libs also I have never heard of these sources and I'm not convinced. Gender and sex used to be the same thing to you changed the definition.

The British government is literally the Conservative Party.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:42 am

Keemstar wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Id like to know why you think this bill is a good idea and how you don't see the harm it could cause to gay teens by outing them to potentially unaccepting parents.

Why shouldn't children by taught being gay is acceptable and about LGBT issues? Plus this bill could also harm children of same sex couples as well.


the world does not revolve around what you think no one else should have to listen to your dumb opinions if they don't want to be declared a bigot.


So that justifies forcibly outing LGBT kids to abusive parents?
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Postby Hispida » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:44 am

Hukhalia wrote:how about you stop basing your politics off of meaningless labels and actually get in touch with the present state of things

because to some people (like me) labels are really important actually
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:44 am

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The British government is a bunch of whiney libs also I have never heard of these sources and I'm not convinced. Gender and sex used to be the same thing to you changed the definition.


Jsut because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them wrong.

I linked scources talking about why trans ideology is wrong does that make that scource not valid for every scource supporting you absurd beliefs their is one the counters it.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:46 am

Keemstar wrote:
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Jsut because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them wrong.

I linked scources talking about why trans ideology is wrong does that make that scource not valid for every scource supporting you absurd beliefs their is one the counters it.


Ah yes, the Heritage Foundation. The one currently pouring cash into anti-Trans Rights causes here in the UK because the idea of trans people being able to just live their lives is so offensive to them that they want it abolished.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:46 am

Keemstar wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Id like to know why you think this bill is a good idea and how you don't see the harm it could cause to gay teens by outing them to potentially unaccepting parents.

Why shouldn't children by taught being gay is acceptable and about LGBT issues? Plus this bill could also harm children of same sex couples as well.


the world does not revolve around what you think no one else should have to listen to your dumb opinions if they don't want to be declared a bigot.


What makes them dumb? why should gay teens be outed to their parents by the school?

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Postby Hispida » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:46 am

Keemstar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Jsut because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them wrong.

I linked scources talking about why trans ideology is wrong does that make that scource not valid for every scource supporting you absurd beliefs their is one the counters it.

you linked a website with an anti-trans bias
that's not a source in the slightest
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Postby Space Squid » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:47 am

Keemstar wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:actually yes what you think does constitute a certain part of your identity


does it rewrite your biology?

Transgender identity is almost certainly rooted in biology. And probably has something to do with hormone levels at any of several developmental stages.

What you're doing is like pointing at a man who has lost their sex drive, and saying, "do you expect me to believe your low testosterone levels can override basic biology!? Humans have a desire to mate!!"
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:05 am

Keemstar wrote:I said trans people are biological men or women and apparently I'm the bad guy. All of you are acting like I said trans genocide.

Actually you made the mistake of saying that trans people are biologically men because you fell into the error of thinking that all trans people are MtF...
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:38 am

Keemstar wrote:
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Jsut because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them wrong.

I linked scources talking about why trans ideology is wrong does that make that scource not valid for every scource supporting you absurd beliefs their is one the counters it.

Your source was an opinion piece written by someone with no credentials in the field. Ryan T. Anderson, with his bachelor of arts degree and his doctorate in political philosophy, has no credibility when it comes to biology, gender studies, or any relevant field of research.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:58 am

Hukhalia wrote:how about you stop basing your politics off of meaningless labels and actually get in touch with the present state of things

That's funny, I thought that's what you needed to do, to get in touch with reality and realize that this bill is shit, and has no reason to exist other than bigotry.
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Postby Hukhalia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:03 am

Untecna wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:how about you stop basing your politics off of meaningless labels and actually get in touch with the present state of things

That's funny, I thought that's what you needed to do, to get in touch with reality and realize that this bill is shit, and has no reason to exist other than bigotry.

i was responding to keemstar about his alt-lite bullshit

i'm against the bill
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:14 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Untecna wrote:That's funny, I thought that's what you needed to do, to get in touch with reality and realize that this bill is shit, and has no reason to exist other than bigotry.

i was responding to keemstar about his alt-lite bullshit

i'm against the bill

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:14 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:i was responding to keemstar about his alt-lite bullshit

i'm against the bill

If only non-floridian opinions actually mattered.


What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:17 am

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If only non-floridian opinions actually mattered.


What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?


Why would it exist if noone wants it ?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If only non-floridian opinions actually mattered.


What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?

I don't know why they would, but their voices are the only ones that matter. Everybody else here just wants to shit on Florida or state their moral opinions as if that matters
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Postby Hukhalia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:20 am

San Lumen wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If only non-floridian opinions actually mattered.


What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?

because america is rife with these sorts of attitudes, especially places like florida. soft liberals atop ivory towers tend to forget this.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:20 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?


Why would it exist if noone wants it ?


Perhaps a minority and those the in the legislature think children should be outed to their parents by their school but I doubt that's a popular idea.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:23 am

Hukhalia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What makes you think Floridians support this awful bill?

because america is rife with these sorts of attitudes, especially places like florida. soft liberals atop ivory towers tend to forget this.

I do like living in ivory :)
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