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Postby Awesomeland » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:53 am

Eh, I don't really know about this. Existing in reality means learning to deal with viewpoints that you don't necessarily agree with. I'm not sure burying your head, or your kids' heads, in the sand, is really the right approach.

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:35 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:*shurgs* The bill has already passed the Florida State legislature, and it’s going to be signed into law. Arguing about it is a moot point. I don’t think that any court will strike it down.

Probably not. It's unfortunate that the courts probably will say that there's essentially no way to stop private bounty hunters from violating the constitution.
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:04 am


God, what an unrepentant douche.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:06 am



Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:08 am

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


And if Christians want to teach their kids about how Mary was impregnated by God while bethroted to Josef or that kids should stay virgins until marriage - they will now also have to teach that at home.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:10 am

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Prima Scriptura wrote:
Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


And if Christians want to teach their kids about how Mary was impregnated by God while bethroted to Josef or that kids should stay virgins until marriage - they will now also have to teach that at home.

Technically with the logic of "god made everyone", God certainly gets around.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:12 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
And if Christians want to teach their kids about how Mary was impregnated by God while bethroted to Josef or that kids should stay virgins until marriage - they will now also have to teach that at home.

Technically with the logic of "god made everyone", God certainly gets around.


Remember - dozens of churches used to claim they owned the foreskin of Jesus at the same time.
Even as a baby he must have been.. well hung.

But that also is now a topic one is not allowed to speak about in schools.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:14 am

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Technically with the logic of "god made everyone", God certainly gets around.


Remember - dozens of churches used to claim they owned the foreskin of Jesus at the same time.
Even as a baby he must have been.. well hung.

But that also is now a topic one is not allowed to speak about in schools.

Would be interesting to try and apply this law to heterosexual stuff. No stories about marriage, or romantic relationships (meaning most kid stories go out the window).
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:14 am

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

Why don't you hold everything to that standard? Do you think homeschooling should be enforced?
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:15 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:


Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


ban mentions of straight couples because if parents want their young kids to learn about relationships, they can do it themselves.

what’s so nasty about LGBT relationships that they must be banned from even being mentioned in schools?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:16 am

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

Do you think the gay children of sufficiently authoritarian parents will get anything but grievous bodily harm when they ask their parents about this stuff?

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:19 am

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Prima Scriptura wrote:
Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


ban mentions of straight couples because if parents want their young kids to learn about relationships, they can do it themselves.

what’s so nasty about LGBT relationships that they must be banned from even being mentioned in schools?

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Because it’s inappropriate. I’m sorry if your not able to understand that. Why do you insist on young children questioning their sexuality and/or gender?

What about it is inappropriate? Is the very concept of a gay couple inappropriate? Is a child being raised by a LGBT person or couple inappropriate?

I've been asking for clarification for so long...
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:21 am



As a sidenote - why was he surrounded by kids and what did he tell those kids what the bill was about ?
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am

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As a sidenote - why was he surrounded by kids and what did he tell those kids what the bill was about ?

Because the governor of the state represented by Matt Gaetz has it as a top priority to protect children. ;)
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am

Neutraligon wrote:
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Remember - dozens of churches used to claim they owned the foreskin of Jesus at the same time.
Even as a baby he must have been.. well hung.

But that also is now a topic one is not allowed to speak about in schools.

Would be interesting to try and apply this law to heterosexual stuff. No stories about marriage, or romantic relationships (meaning most kid stories go out the window).


Considering the bill never actually says "gay"; but speaks of "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur
in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards" there formally is no reason to not apply it equally.

Ofc, the "appropriate according to state standards" ill probably boil down to "gay bad; jesus and abstinence only good".
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Postby Miternet » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:37 am

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Prima Scriptura wrote:


Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.



God, what an unrepentant douche.

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Postby Existential Cats » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:49 am

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

Alternative idea: if you want your kids to receive a religious education, send them to a religious school, not a public one.
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Postby Reginalida » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:49 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:


Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

Way to advocate for children being confused about themselves and having no safe space to turn to if their parents and homophobic and abusive.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:18 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:


Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


What's the point in schools anyway? If parents want their kids to learn about anything, they can do it themselves can't they?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:20 pm

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.


Nah. Homophobia like racism is usually learned at home.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:28 pm

Flo-rida has called people gay slurs tons of times
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:47 pm

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

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Postby Heloin » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:48 pm

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Good. If parents want their young kids learn about LGBT, they can do it themselves.

The concept of a school being a place children go to learn is lost on you I take it.

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