Floridas ¨don´t say gay bill¨

[Keemstar]

There is currently a bill in Florida that would soon be passed for Floridian public schools to stop talking about LGBTQ issues. Now the white house has come out and said this is bigoted and hateful. This bill seems like it really could pick up steam in Florida.

I will post many sources left and right

https://reason.com/2022/02/10/floridas- ... y-parents/

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-g ... 58598.html

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/ ... ar-AATFjy6

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chasten-but ... he-closet/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQBXhpQxyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtRtGN6Qmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysT0UU177Y

https://open.spotify.com/show/1WErgoXiZwgctkHLzqU6nf

[The Black Forrest]

What is your opinion and why?

Don’t expect much in the way of talk as this appeared in the politics thread.

[Keemstar]

What is your opinion and why?

Don’t expect much in the way of talk as this appeared in the politics thread.

you want me to give my opinion yeah the bills are a good thing I think it's inappropriate for people in grade school to learn about CRT and gender identity.

[Cannot think of a name]

What is your opinion and why?

Don’t expect much in the way of talk as this appeared in the politics thread.

you want me to give my opinion yeah the bills are a good thing I think it's inappropriate for people in grade school to learn about CRT and gender identity.

They're learning it whether you like it or not. The country's legacy of racism effects grade school kids and they come into their own sexuality at the time which is going to obviously run the gambit. Grade school seems like an ideal time for kids to engage in a frank discussion of the things that are affecting their lives and are complex issues for them to understand. It's literally our job as adults to help them work their way through that.

[The Black Forrest]

What is your opinion and why?

Don’t expect much in the way of talk as this appeared in the politics thread.

you want me to give my opinion yeah the bills are a good thing I think it's inappropriate for people in grade school to learn about CRT and gender identity.

Ok. Why?

[Saiwania]

I live in Florida and I'm in favor of this, it is the first I've heard of this. It isn't K-12 school's place to try to teach about such matters. This isn't rocket science, so anyone who does want to learn this stuff should just use the internet in their own private time.

I imagine the people backing this aren't against gay or trans or etc. people existing. It is more that they want such individuals to be more closeted and not try to impose themselves on the cisgender and heteronormative majority.

[Cannot think of a name]

I imagine the people backing this aren't against gay or trans or etc. people existing. It is more that they want such individuals to be more closeted and not try to impose themselves on the cisgender and heteronormative majority.

Not sure how you square the first sentence with the second one.

[Keemstar]

I live in Florida and I'm in favor of this, it is the first I've heard of this. It isn't K-12 school's place to try to teach about such matters. This isn't rocket science, so anyone who does want to learn this stuff should just use the internet in their own private time.

I imagine the people backing this aren't against gay or trans or etc. people existing. It is more that they want such individuals to be more closeted and not try to impose themselves on the cisgender and heteronormative majority.

I do not hate gay people or trans people or anything just teaching that all of America's institutions are racist today and educating kids on your favorite gender identity. public Schools should be as politically unbiased religion-neutral as possible. In my school, there are pride flags and BLM signs hanging all across the walls. They're even teaching us about how bad the Europeans were even though Africans sold other Africans into the international slave trade and just glancing over it. Many races across the world not just white have engaged in slavery guess what white people were also slaves in Africa and the ottoman empire so yeah.

[Prima Scriptura]

I think it should be up to parents if they want their children taught about homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t plan to ever have children, but if I did I would not want them to be taught about lifestyles and behaviors I believe God considers sinful.

[Keemstar]

I think it should be up to parents if they want their children taught about homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t plan to ever have children, but if I did I would not want them to be taught about lifestyles and behaviors I believe God considers sinful.

parents should choose what their kids learn in public schools

[Prima Scriptura]

I think it should be up to parents if they want their children taught about homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t plan to ever have children, but if I did I would not want them to be taught about lifestyles and behaviors I believe God considers sinful.

parents should choose what their kids learn in public schools

Parents should have the right to withdraw their kids from lessons they object to. For example, I would not mind my children being taught evolution but I do not want them to be taught about LGBT activities.

[Keemstar]

parents should choose what their kids learn in public schools

Parents should have the right to withdraw their kids from lessons they object to. For example, I would not mind my children being taught evolution but I do not want them to be taught about LGBT activities.

parents should have the right to withdraw from courses if it goes against their religious views

[Prima Scriptura]

Parents should have the right to withdraw their kids from lessons they object to. For example, I would not mind my children being taught evolution but I do not want them to be taught about LGBT activities.

parents should have the right to withdraw from courses if it goes against their religious views

Right… I’m agreeing with you

[Keemstar]

parents should have the right to withdraw from courses if it goes against their religious views

Right… I’m agreeing with you

i was agreeing back

[Saiwania]

The majority of school districts that do teach LGBT topics (the vast majority of the time) do try to nudge the children towards being accepting or permissive of it in accordance with very politically Liberal values from what I can tell.

I don't believe I'd be cool with someone trying to insist that someone is magically now a woman if they were born a man or vice versa.

[Big Bad Blue]

Red meat for the red hat squad.

[Keemstar]

The majority of school districts that do teach LGBT topics (the vast majority of the time) do try to nudge the children towards being accepting or permissive of it in accordance with very politically Liberal values from what I can tell.

I recently ended my quarter health class they had a two-day lesson on genderfluid and transgenderism also nonbinary a the glorious wonder of the XXX and XXY chromosome

[Prima Scriptura]

The majority of school districts that do teach LGBT topics (the vast majority of the time) do try to nudge the children towards being accepting or permissive of it in accordance with very politically Liberal values from what I can tell.

I was formally reprimanded for saying homosexuality is a sin during my junior and senior years. Of course, it was a hateful little shit back then. I didn’t preach the Gospel from place of love and redemption, it was all combination for my ego.

[Keemstar]

The majority of school districts that do teach LGBT topics (the vast majority of the time) do try to nudge the children towards being accepting or permissive of it in accordance with very politically Liberal values from what I can tell.

I was formally reprimanded for saying homosexuality is a sin during my junior and senior years.

wow openly being hostile towards Christian sexual morality values

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

I think it should be up to parents if they want their children taught about homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t plan to ever have children, but if I did I would not want them to be taught about lifestyles and behaviors I believe God considers sinful.

Are you worried they might identify with that and realize how they really felt? Because trying to keep people from that is kind of worrying. It should be their decision, because it's their body.

[Keemstar]

I think it should be up to parents if they want their children taught about homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t plan to ever have children, but if I did I would not want them to be taught about lifestyles and behaviors I believe God considers sinful.

Are you worried they might identify with that and realize how they really felt? Because trying to keep people from that is kind of worrying. It should be their decision, because it's their body.

I don't have a problem with how they feel or want to act just not having the full school pride flags every corner and having a full mini 3-day crash course on LGBTQ community and how gender is a social construct.

[Cannot think of a name]

As it turns out, if these things had been taught in schools there wouldn't be so many bassakwards notions that feed people thinking it's bad to talk about these things.

[Big Bad Blue]

I was formally reprimanded for saying homosexuality is a sin during my junior and senior years.

wow openly being hostile towards Christian sexual morality values

there's a difference between "my religious tradition teaches homosexuality is sinful" and "you and you and you and all the other gays will burn in hell." just sayin'

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

I live in Florida and I'm in favor of this, it is the first I've heard of this. It isn't K-12 school's place to try to teach about such matters. This isn't rocket science, so anyone who does want to learn this stuff should just use the internet in their own private time.

I imagine the people backing this aren't against gay or trans or etc. people existing. It is more that they want such individuals to be more closeted and not try to impose themselves on the cisgender and heteronormative majority.

I do not hate gay people or trans people or anything just teaching that all of America's institutions are racist today and educating kids on your favorite gender identity. public Schools should be as politically unbiased religion-neutral as possible. In my school, there are pride flags and BLM signs hanging all across the walls. They're even teaching us about how bad the Europeans were even though Africans sold other Africans into the international slave trade and just glancing over it. Many races across the world not just white have engaged in slavery guess what white people were also slaves in Africa and the ottoman empire so yeah.

The fact that other people engaged in slavery does not make it better. European colonizers did it at the largest scale by far.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Africans were only selling each other out early on and only because they didn't want to be enslaved themselves (or they were selling out rivals). I'd have to read more about it.

[Heloin]

I do not hate gay people or trans people or anything […]

I honestly don’t get the reasoning behind lying about this. If you in any way support this you are homophobic. If you support this you actively hate LGBT people. Who do you actually think you’re fooling by pretending otherwise?