American Politics X: Is There A Reset Button Around Here?

[Picairn]

Your own article states that 35% of jobs require a bachelor's degree or higher. 35% isn't "most". Depending on how many of those, and how many of the jobs that do not require one someone considers "good" could skew the view, I suppose. But I still find it doubtful that most good jobs require a university degree.

An associate's degree is still a college degree.

[Celritannia]

Your own article states that 35% of jobs require a bachelor's degree or higher. 35% isn't "most". Depending on how many of those, and how many of the jobs that do not require one someone considers "good" could skew the view, I suppose. But I still find it doubtful that most good jobs require a university degree.

You missed the second part which said 30 percent of the job openings will require some college or an associate’s degree; only 36 percent of the job openings will not require education beyond high school.

Ah, you bet (or should I say bat) me to it.

[American Legionaries]

They're also... um... pretty wealthy for "average" politicians. I mean one has a masters degree and the other chaired the board of the Missouri State University.

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

The average municipal mayor in this country is paid triple the median household income, or near enough. I think that's enough to qualify anyone currently employed as a municipal mayor as "wealthy" and the political power that is involved with the position certainly makes one "elite".

[American Legionaries]

Your own article states that 35% of jobs require a bachelor's degree or higher. 35% isn't "most". Depending on how many of those, and how many of the jobs that do not require one someone considers "good" could skew the view, I suppose. But I still find it doubtful that most good jobs require a university degree.

You missed the second part which said 30 percent of the job openings will require some college or an associate’s degree; only 36 percent of the job openings will not require education beyond high school.

No, I simply dismissed it as irrelevant, things which aren't university degrees are not university degrees.

[San Lumen]

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

The average municipal mayor in this country is paid triple the median household income, or near enough. I think that's enough to qualify anyone currently employed as a municipal mayor as "wealthy" and the political power that is involved with the position certainly makes one "elite".

Just because they they get a large salary doesn't mean they were rich elitists before running.

[Celritannia]

You missed the second part which said 30 percent of the job openings will require some college or an associate’s degree; only 36 percent of the job openings will not require education beyond high school.

No, I simply dismissed it as irrelevant, things which aren't university degrees are not university degrees.

They are still degrees.

[American Legionaries]

The average municipal mayor in this country is paid triple the median household income, or near enough. I think that's enough to qualify anyone currently employed as a municipal mayor as "wealthy" and the political power that is involved with the position certainly makes one "elite".

Just because they they get a large salary doesn't mean they were rich elitists before running.

But you asked rather they presently were wealthy elites.

[Picairn]

No, I simply dismissed it as irrelevant, things which aren't university degrees are not university degrees.

An associate's degree is still a college's degree unless you are intentionally obtuse.

[Forsher]

Your own article states that 35% of jobs require a bachelor's degree or higher. 35% isn't "most". Depending on how many of those, and how many of the jobs that do not require one someone considers "good" could skew the view, I suppose. But I still find it doubtful that most good jobs require a university degree.

An associate's degree is still a college degree.

In most of the world, it's not even a degree.

[Stellar Colonies]

Anti-Work Subreddit Suddenly Goes Private to Clean Up After ‘Brigading’ (Bloomberg)

The popular subreddit forum called r/antiwork suddenly went private on Wednesday.

The forum has more than 1.7 million members and was the fastest-growing non-default Reddit on Jan. 26, according to the site’s public metrics. Now, it’s locked from view, with a post that reads: “We’re closed while we deal with the cleanup from ongoing brigading, and will be back soon. (You don't need to request to join. We'll be back real soon. I promise.)”

On Reddit, “brigading” usually refers to users from another subreddit conducting a coordinated campaign to disrupt another group.

The forum’s slogan is “Unemployment for all, not just the rich!” Although it’s been around since 2013, subscriber growth spiked in the fall — doubling in the last three months alone. It’s been fueled by discontent with the state of the labor market during the pandemic — more workers are refusing to accept conditions and pay that were previously the norm.

“The point of the movement is not to tell everyone to go quit your job immediately and don’t think about the economic impact on yourself or your family — that’s definitely not the message,” one of the forum’s moderators, Doreen Ford, told Bloomberg last month. “The central aim of our mission is to undermine and subvert capitalism as much as possible and make it so that people don't have to rely on their jobs as much to pay rent.”

Read More: This Is the Booming Movement To Abolish Work as We Know It

First conceived as a place to undermine capitalism, many are now using the group as a place to discuss workers’ rights, air grievances against employers and post cathartic screenshots and videos of people quitting.

The subreddit’s growing popularity has also brought more media attention. Ford recently was interviewed on Fox News’s Jesse Watters Primetime show about the movement.

Ford didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday. A representative for Reddit said the company wasn't involved in the decision by the forum to go private, and directed questions about it to the subreddit's moderators.

Interview link extracted from the article

[Valrifall]

They're also... um... pretty wealthy for "average" politicians. I mean one has a masters degree and the other chaired the board of the Missouri State University.

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? She attended community college and served on the school board prior to running for city council : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia? She has a bachelor's degree and was a news anchor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

Have you noticed your example list only consists of mayors yet and no "big hitters" like Senators, Reps, Governors or even state legislators? Obviously the barrier to entry for local politics is going to be significantly lower and yet these kinds of scales would be ineffective for the policies most of us actually want.

[San Lumen]

Just because they they get a large salary doesn't mean they were rich elitists before running.

But you asked rather they presently were wealthy elites.

I don't consider them wealthy elites.

[San Lumen]

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? She attended community college and served on the school board prior to running for city council : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia? She has a bachelor's degree and was a news anchor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

Have you noticed your example list only consists of mayors yet and no "big hitters" like Senators, Reps, Governors or even state legislators? Obviously the barrier to entry for local politics is going to be significantly lower and yet these kinds of scales would be ineffective for the policies most of us actually want.

Someone usually works their way up to be Governor. Its quite rare to start at the top.

There are plenty of examples in state legislature and congress.

[American Legionaries]

They are still degrees.

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An associate's degree is still a college's degree unless you are intentionally obtuse.

Celtrianna specified, not me.

This is because most good jobs require a university degree.

It's worth noting also that non-university degrees cost magnitudes less than four year programs, and given the broad category that is "More than high school but less than a bachelor's" can represent any number of things. An SBCA card falls into that, and is completely free of charge, IIRC.

[Ifreann]

They're also... um... pretty wealthy for "average" politicians. I mean one has a masters degree and the other chaired the board of the Missouri State University.

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? She attended community college and served on the school board prior to running for city council : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia? She has a bachelor's degree and was a news anchor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

Handful of examples from thousands of politicians.

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No, I simply dismissed it as irrelevant, things which aren't university degrees are not university degrees.

An associate's degree is still a college's degree unless you are intentionally obtuse.

You really think that someone would be intentionally obtuse just to avoid admitting to be wrong on NSG?

[American Legionaries]

But you asked rather they presently were wealthy elites.

I don't consider them wealthy elites.

That says more about you being out of touch with normal folks, and less about municipal mayors being normal folks.

[Celritannia]

They are still degrees.

[
An associate's degree is still a college's degree unless you are intentionally obtuse.

Celtrianna specified, not me.

This is because most good jobs require a university degree.

It's worth noting also that non-university degrees cost magnitudes less than four year programs, and given the broad category that is "More than high school but less than a bachelor's" can represent any number of things. An SBCA card falls into that, and is completely free of charge, IIRC.

Yet, I am from the UK, and associate degrees aren't a thing here. But since they are in the US, they do count.

And yet again, specific jobs require degrees. Which mean student loans, which means debts, which means difficulty paying for things.

[San Lumen]

I don't consider them wealthy elites.

That says more about you being out of touch with normal folks, and less about municipal mayors being normal folks.

How am I out of touch?

[American Legionaries]

Celtrianna specified, not me.



It's worth noting also that non-university degrees cost magnitudes less than four year programs, and given the broad category that is "More than high school but less than a bachelor's" can represent any number of things. An SBCA card falls into that, and is completely free of charge, IIRC.

Yet, I am from the UK, and associate degrees aren't a thing here. But since they are in the US, they do count.

Given that the average four year degree costs about ten times what the average two year degree costs, I wouldn't consider people engaging in associates degrees or lesser training programs to be categorically the same as people borrowing money to attend a four year degree program.

[American Legionaries]

That says more about you being out of touch with normal folks, and less about municipal mayors being normal folks.

How am I out of touch?

You don't think the mayors of decently sized municipalities are wealthy elites, for starters.

[San Lumen]

How am I out of touch?

You don't think the mayors of decently sized municipalities are wealthy elites, for starters.

No I don't nor is the mayor of a small town. Im tired of this generalized answer by people.

[Celritannia]

Yet, I am from the UK, and associate degrees aren't a thing here. But since they are in the US, they do count.

Given that the average four year degree costs about ten times what the average two year degree costs, I wouldn't consider people engaging in associates degrees or lesser training programs to be categorically the same as people borrowing money to attend a four year degree program.

It also depends on the type of degree as well.

But I will stand by my comment that undergraduate degrees should be universal for all.

[Dreria]

Given that the average four year degree costs about ten times what the average two year degree costs, I wouldn't consider people engaging in associates degrees or lesser training programs to be categorically the same as people borrowing money to attend a four year degree program.

It also depends on the type of degree as well.

But I will stand by my comment that undergraduate degrees should be universal for all.

everyone shouldn’t need a 4 year degree.

[San Lumen]

Is this person a wealthy elitist? she's the mayor of Olympia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Selby

or how about the mayor of Harrisburg? She attended community college and served on the school board prior to running for city council : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Williams

Or the mayor of Charleston, West Virginia? She has a bachelor's degree and was a news anchor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Shuler_Goodwin

Handful of examples from thousands of politicians.

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An associate's degree is still a college's degree unless you are intentionally obtuse.

You really think that someone would be intentionally obtuse just to avoid admitting to be wrong on NSG?

Heres a state legislator in New Hampshire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Labranche

here's one from West Virginia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Holstein

Here is the current speaker of the Maine House of Representatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Fecteau

None of these people were wealthy before running for state legislature.

[Dreria]

Anti-Work Subreddit Suddenly Goes Private to Clean Up After ‘Brigading’ (Bloomberg)

The popular subreddit forum called r/antiwork suddenly went private on Wednesday.

The forum has more than 1.7 million members and was the fastest-growing non-default Reddit on Jan. 26, according to the site’s public metrics. Now, it’s locked from view, with a post that reads: “We’re closed while we deal with the cleanup from ongoing brigading, and will be back soon. (You don't need to request to join. We'll be back real soon. I promise.)”

On Reddit, “brigading” usually refers to users from another subreddit conducting a coordinated campaign to disrupt another group.

The forum’s slogan is “Unemployment for all, not just the rich!” Although it’s been around since 2013, subscriber growth spiked in the fall — doubling in the last three months alone. It’s been fueled by discontent with the state of the labor market during the pandemic — more workers are refusing to accept conditions and pay that were previously the norm.

“The point of the movement is not to tell everyone to go quit your job immediately and don’t think about the economic impact on yourself or your family — that’s definitely not the message,” one of the forum’s moderators, Doreen Ford, told Bloomberg last month. “The central aim of our mission is to undermine and subvert capitalism as much as possible and make it so that people don't have to rely on their jobs as much to pay rent.”

Read More: This Is the Booming Movement To Abolish Work as We Know It

First conceived as a place to undermine capitalism, many are now using the group as a place to discuss workers’ rights, air grievances against employers and post cathartic screenshots and videos of people quitting.

The subreddit’s growing popularity has also brought more media attention. Ford recently was interviewed on Fox News’s Jesse Watters Primetime show about the movement.

Ford didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday. A representative for Reddit said the company wasn't involved in the decision by the forum to go private, and directed questions about it to the subreddit's moderators.

Interview link extracted from the article

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