American Politics X: Is There A Reset Button Around Here?

[American Legionaries]

Did they "make an effort?" Because that was what the requirement was, not that the thing actually gets passed.

It should be easy to show that they've made an effort. Politicians could keep records of "billable hours" like lawyers do, or just show that they brought up the proposal several times in committee.

Honestly, this so easy to do that my main concern is they would just make token efforts. They never seriously pushed for the idea, but it would be difficult to prove otherwise.

If bringing it up in committee is all takes what is the point of this law?

To punish them for not doing stuff.

[Dogmeat]

Did they "make an effort?" Because that was what the requirement was, not that the thing actually gets passed.

It should be easy to show that they've made an effort. Politicians could keep records of "billable hours" like lawyers do, or just show that they brought up the proposal several times in committee.

Honestly, this so easy to do that my main concern is they would just make token efforts. They never seriously pushed for the idea, but it would be difficult to prove otherwise.

If bringing it up in committee is all takes what is the point of this law?

Naw, I'm just pointing out that a balance must be struck. This law needs to have teeth, but also not be too strenuous. Like all laws. People try to weasel out of laws all the time, that doesn't make laws pointless.

[San Lumen]

Let me get this straight. If a candidate for governor or president proposes a bold bill but it doesn't get much traction once they get elected they get charged with fraud?

Did they try? If they did then no they won’t get hit with fraud. If it’s the opposite then fraud time.

Campaigning for office is about ideas. Some landmark legislation started out as just ideas on the campaign trail and then later became law later.

Lol. Campaigning for office is about getting into power, not about ideas or any other pie in the sky things you think it’s about

The Interstate Highway System was first proposed in 1916. It didn't get built until Eisenhower made it a priority.

[Deblar]

Did they try? If they did then no they won’t get hit with fraud. If it’s the opposite then fraud time.


Lol. Campaigning for office is about getting into power, not about ideas or any other pie in the sky things you think it’s about

The Interstate Highway System was first proposed in 1916. It didn't get built until Eisenhower made it a priority.

Meh, highways are way overrated. High speed rail is where it’s at.

[Dogmeat]

Did they try? If they did then no they won’t get hit with fraud. If it’s the opposite then fraud time.


Lol. Campaigning for office is about getting into power, not about ideas or any other pie in the sky things you think it’s about

The Interstate Highway System was first proposed in 1916. It didn't get built until Eisenhower made it a priority.

Presumably the person who proposed it in 1916 made an effort to get it built, so I'm not sure what your point is?

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

The Interstate Highway System was first proposed in 1916. It didn't get built until Eisenhower made it a priority.

Meh, highways are way overrated. High speed rail is where it’s at.

I prefer the Silk Road myself. (/j)

[Dogmeat]

Meh, highways are way overrated. High speed rail is where it’s at.

I prefer the Silk Road myself. (/j)

Rocky road is my preference.

[San Lumen]

The Interstate Highway System was first proposed in 1916. It didn't get built until Eisenhower made it a priority.

Presumably the person who proposed it in 1916 made an effort to get it built, so I'm not sure what your point is?

Not really. Wilson did campaign on it but World War One prevented much of the funding from being used and the act expired.

[American Legionaries]

I prefer the Silk Road myself. (/j)

Rocky road is my preference.

Marshmallows are gross

[Necroghastia]

Rocky road is my preference.

Marshmallows are gross

Takes so hot you could make s'mores with them.

[Dogmeat]

Presumably the person who proposed it in 1916 made an effort to get it built, so I'm not sure what your point is?

Not really. Wilson did campaign on it but World War One prevented much of the funding from being used and the act expired.

So, in fact, they did make an effort, but circumstances intervened.

Thank you for explaining why Wilson wouldn't be punished under this system.

[Thermodolia]

Rocky road is my preference.

Marshmallows are gross

Heresy

[Dogmeat]

Rocky road is my preference.

Marshmallows are gross

but only if you're German.

[Deblar]

Rocky road is my preference.

Marshmallows are gross

Hot Take thread’s down the street

[American Legionaries]

Marshmallows are gross

Heresy

You're welcome to eat your air puffed sugar bones, I'll eat actually tasty things.

[Big Jim P]

I prefer the Silk Road myself. (/j)

Rocky road is my preference.

Did someone say rhodes?

[Dogmeat]

Heresy

You're welcome to eat your air puffed sugar bones, I'll eat actually tasty things.

I'm a dog. There's nothing about that sentence I don't love.

[Shrillland]

Figures that whilst I've been in the throes of another sciatic attack, the Plaza chugs along. Thankfully, three of them were bond issues without constitutional repercussions, so they can be ignored. Two more do show up however.

Alabama: Number six would allow the state or local governments to grant federal award funds or state funds marked for broadband internet infrastructure to public or private entities that plan to expand, provide, or introduce broadband. Any local government doing this would have to have the measure approved by the town or county in question.

Florida: Amendment 3 would allow the state legislature to grant a new homestead property tax exemption of $50,000 on public service workers such as teachers, law enforcement, EMT and fire personnel, active duty military or national guard, and child welfare workers.

[Ifreann]

Very funny watching Lumen desperately defending the rights of politicians to lie to voters and break their promises.

[San Lumen]

Very funny watching Lumen desperately defending the rights of politicians to lie to voters and break their promises.

The first amendment would not allow such a law and its totally pointless as no one would be able to propose anything they couldn't guarantee unless you make such a low standard as to make such a law pointless.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Free healthcare, worker protections, and publicly funded transportation is pretty cool

That is pretty cool, but could we throw at least a little smidge of democracy in there?

Yes. Let’s have democracy in all aspects, governmental, economic and workplace democracy.

[Tarsonis]

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

until it's not

[Deblar]

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

until it's not

*looks at Stalinist Russia and Maoist China*

[Nora Xent]

Also, therm, If you ever hypothetically became the supreme leader of the United States of America, could you re-make/pass the Blaine and the titles of nobility amendments?

[The Jamesian Republic]

until it's not

*looks at Stalinist Russia and Maoist China*

Time to develop time travel and save Kerensky and kill both Mao and Chiang.