American Politics X: Is There A Reset Button Around Here?

[San Lumen]

How would you prove this?

Just like you prove regular fraud? With texts, calls, ya know proof that fraud has taken place

Calls or texts that say what exactly?

[Thermodolia]

Just like you prove regular fraud? With texts, calls, ya know proof that fraud has taken place

Calls or texts that say what exactly?

Do I have to explain to you how fraud is investigated?

[San Lumen]

Calls or texts that say what exactly?

Do I have to explain to you how fraud is investigated?

How are we going to determine what constitutes fraud here? If you promise something but make limited to no effort to do it’s considered fraud?

Is promising something but eventually getting through a watered down version going to be considered fraud?

[Thermodolia]

Do I have to explain to you how fraud is investigated?

How are we going to determine what constitutes fraud here? If you promise something but make limited to no effort to do it’s considered fraud?

Yes

Is promising something but eventually getting through a watered down version going to be considered fraud?

No because you tried to get it passed

[Hispida]

Not my problem you hold up Fukuyama's 1992 writings as literal gospel.

I have no idea what that is.

You haven’t a clue what dictatorship entails. A dictatorship is what Romania was under Ceaușescu where you had a secret police of which the members could have been people in your family and you had no idea.

Or Turkmenistan where there is no genuine choice in an election as the opposition parties are approved by the government to give the appearance of free and fair elections.

you say that like dictatorship is inherently a bad thing

[San Lumen]

How are we going to determine what constitutes fraud here? If you promise something but make limited to no effort to do it’s considered fraud?

Yes

Is promising something but eventually getting through a watered down version going to be considered fraud?

No because you tried to get it passed

I’m nearly certain that would violate the first amendment.

[Nora Xent]

Yes


No because you tried to get it passed

I’m nearly certain that would violate the first amendment.

Who cares about the constitution when you have all the guns and tanks?

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I have no idea what that is.

You haven’t a clue what dictatorship entails. A dictatorship is what Romania was under Ceaușescu where you had a secret police of which the members could have been people in your family and you had no idea.

Or Turkmenistan where there is no genuine choice in an election as the opposition parties are approved by the government to give the appearance of free and fair elections.

you say that like dictatorship is inherently a bad thing

It is? (Unless it's for band. In which case, all hail the Fearless Band Director!)

[Thermodolia]

Yes


No because you tried to get it passed

I’m nearly certain that would violate the first amendment.

It wouldn’t because fraud laws don’t violate the first because of intent. If you intend to lie to gain power it’s fraud. Otherwise no.

Not violating the first amendment. You can’t just print whatever you want we have laws that prevent you from defaming someone.

Same applies here. If you never intended to do what you promised and it was just to get voted to get into office then it’s fraud otherwise it’s not

[San Lumen]

I’m nearly certain that would violate the first amendment.

It wouldn’t because fraud laws don’t violate the first because of intent. If you intend to lie to gain power it’s fraud. Otherwise no.

Not violating the first amendment. You can’t just print whatever you want we have laws that prevent you from defaming someone.

Same applies here. If you never intended to do what you promised and it was just to get voted to get into office then it’s fraud otherwise it’s not

Why has no one ever been charged then?

[Thermodolia]

It wouldn’t because fraud laws don’t violate the first because of intent. If you intend to lie to gain power it’s fraud. Otherwise no.

Not violating the first amendment. You can’t just print whatever you want we have laws that prevent you from defaming someone.

Same applies here. If you never intended to do what you promised and it was just to get voted to get into office then it’s fraud otherwise it’s not

Why has no one ever been charged then?

Because politicians rarely want to send themselves to jail

[Hispida]

you say that like dictatorship is inherently a bad thing

It is? (Unless it's for band. In which case, all hail the Fearless Band Director!)

there's nothing wrong with a one-party rule of the people's vanguard defending the dictatorship of the proletariat

[American Legionaries]

It is? (Unless it's for band. In which case, all hail the Fearless Band Director!)

there's nothing wrong with a one-party rule of the people's vanguard defending the dictatorship of the proletariat

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

[San Lumen]

Why has no one ever been charged then?

Because politicians rarely want to send themselves to jail

Or maybe this is a ludicrous idea that is nearly impossible to enforce and is unconstitutional.

[Hispida]

there's nothing wrong with a one-party rule of the people's vanguard defending the dictatorship of the proletariat

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

[American Legionaries]

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

Sure it is...

[Hispida]

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

Sure it is...

i'm glad you understand!

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

proletarian dictatorship is inherently benevolent

Sure it is...

lol.

[American Legionaries]

Sure it is...

i'm glad you understand!

I'm almost certain you understood that was sarcasm.

[Thermodolia]

there's nothing wrong with a one-party rule of the people's vanguard defending the dictatorship of the proletariat

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

Don’t worry you’ll be protected under my dictatorship. Hell you’ll probably have a high government post

[Thermodolia]

Because politicians rarely want to send themselves to jail

Or maybe this is a ludicrous idea that is nearly impossible to enforce and is unconstitutional.

Do you really think that politicians are noble people who aren’t out for their own gain and won’t do anything to save their own skin?

[Dogmeat]

I'd prefer a benevolent dictatorship, myself.

Don’t worry you’ll be protected under my dictatorship. Hell you’ll probably have a high government post

Honestly, I would take Thermian despotism over most modern governments.

You seem cool.

[San Lumen]

Or maybe this is a ludicrous idea that is nearly impossible to enforce and is unconstitutional.

Do you really think that politicians are noble people who aren’t out for their own gain and won’t do anything to save their own skin?

Or perhaps like others you have zero understanding of how politics works. If your going to charge people with fraud if they promise something but can’t prove they made an effort to pass it your going to have to indict just about anyone who is victorious.

[Thermodolia]

Don’t worry you’ll be protected under my dictatorship. Hell you’ll probably have a high government post

Honestly, I would take Thermian despotism over most modern governments.

You seem cool.

Free healthcare, worker protections, and publicly funded transportation is pretty cool

[San Lumen]

Don’t worry you’ll be protected under my dictatorship. Hell you’ll probably have a high government post

Honestly, I would take Thermian despotism over most modern governments.

You seem cool.

Therm wants anyone who disagrees with him prevented from running or jailed, elected officials blackmailed and judges be his lapdogs or be removed.