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2022 Winter Olympics Thread

Postby Kannap » Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:56 pm

XXIV Olympic Winter Games
第二十四届冬季奥林匹克运动会
Dì Èrshísì Jiè Dōngjì Àolínpǐkè Yùndònghuì


Another Olympics so soon? It seems like the last one ended just yesterday! And in a way, it has. The 2020 Summer Games in Tokyo, Japan concluded in August of last year after being postponed for one year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The 2022 Winter Games are scheduled to go on as planned - which puts us on track for a second Olympics within six months of each other. In less than one month - on February 4th - we will find ourselves in Beijing!

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  • Dates: February 4-20, 2022
  • Beijing will become the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Olympics; it will also become the 6th city to host more than one Olympics
  • Beijing 2022 is aiming to engage 300 million people with winter sport; in the 2020-2021 season, the number of people engaged with ice and snow sports across China reached 230 million.
  • 5 of the 7 venues in the Beijing competition zone will be legacy venues from the 2008 Summer Olympics: the iconic "Bird's Nest" National Stadium will host the Opening and Closing ceremonies and the Water Cube has been transformed into the Ice Cube, from swimming events in 2008 to curling competitions in 2022.
  • Beijing 2022 aims to stage Games that have positive environmental, economic, and social impacts: They've committed to staging carbon-neutral Games, implementing measures to reduce carbon emissions. Beijing 2022 is making full use of existing venues and prioritizing sustainability when building and operating new venues.
  • Beijing 2022 will be the first Olympic Games to have all venues powered by renewable energy, with solar and wind as primary energy sources.

.::Participating NOCs::.
AlbaniaCroatiaIcelandMalaysiaPuerto Rico
American SamoaCyprusIndiaMaltaRussian Olympic Committee athletes
AndorraCzech RepublicIranMexicoRomania
ArgentinaDenmarkIrelandMoldovaSan Marino
ArmeniaEast TimorIsraelMonacoSaudi Arabia
AustraliaEcuadorItalyMongoliaSerbia
AustriaEritreaJamaicaMontenegroSlovakia
AzerbaijanEstoniaJapanMoroccoSlovenia
BelarusFinlandKazakhstanNetherlandsSouth Korea
BelgiumFranceKenyaNew ZealandSpain
BoliviaGeorgiaKosovoNigeriaSweden
Bosnia and HerzegovinaGermanyKyrgyzstanNorth MacedoniaSwitzerland
BrazilGhanaLatviaNorwayChinese Taipei
BulgariaGreat BritainLebanonPakistanThailand
CanadaGreeceLiechtensteinPeruTurkey
ChileHaitiLithuaniaPhilippinesUkraine
ChinaHong KongLuxembourgPolandUnited States
ColombiaHungaryMadagascarPortugalUzbekistan



.::News::.
~news will be posted here as seen necessary~


.::Thread::.
There you have it, a thread for the 2022 Winter Games. This is a thread for you to discuss the Olympics and share in your excitement. Please be courteous to each other and keep the thread on topic. Understanding some people are not particularly fond of China, this is not a thread for you to share your general grievances against China.
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Postby Shigastan » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:11 pm

Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:21 pm

I would love to travel to the capital and bear witness to this glory

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Postby Rusozak » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:56 pm

They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.
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Postby StrayaRoos » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:59 pm

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.


I saw it on TV. I liked the opening ceremony showcasing the four great Chinese inventions. I remember China did well at the Olympics.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:27 pm

Rusozak wrote:They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.

That's my thought. You could not PAY me enough money to attend an international Omicron super-spreader event like that!
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Postby New Lizhou » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:34 pm

As a Hongkonger, I still fail to understand how hosting the olympics, even without foreign tourists, is compatible with the “zero-covid” policy.
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Postby GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:53 pm

Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

It was 2008. For all we knew back then, people could've been walking into the next Tiananmen Square Massacre. Going there for the Olympics in person would've seemed suicidal.

This time around it seems like a relatively less suicidal deal with the same devil, though yeah there's still the aspect of walking into a superspreader event in the country that caused this new disease in the first place. Still feels like a dance on the graves of the disease's victims that China still gets to host it, let alone that athletes intend on participating.

. . .

And yet, there is another part of me that half feels compelled to say "oh well... I guess if you weren't going to boycott the Olympics anyway you might as well check out the Summer Palace while you're there..."
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Reploid Productions wrote:
Rusozak wrote:They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.

That's my thought. You could not PAY me enough money to attend an international Omicron super-spreader event like that!

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Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

Nah Born during the Paralympics 2008
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:07 pm

Oh ya this is a thing. God I hate Winter Olympics because it fucks up my TV watching schedule
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:09 pm

StrayaRoos wrote:
Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

Nah Born during the Paralympics 2008

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Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

It was 2008. For all we knew back then, people could've been walking into the next Tiananmen Square Massacre. Going there for the Olympics in person would've seemed suicidal.

This time around it seems like a relatively less suicidal deal with the same devil, though yeah there's still the aspect of walking into a superspreader event in the country that caused this new disease in the first place. Still feels like a dance on the graves of the disease's victims that China still gets to host it, let alone that athletes intend on participating.

. . .

And yet, there is another part of me that half feels compelled to say "oh well... I guess if you weren't going to boycott the Olympics anyway you might as well check out the Summer Palace while you're there..."

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:24 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Rusozak wrote:They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.

That's my thought. You could not PAY me enough money to attend an international Omicron super-spreader event like that!

In China...I mean, I'm not signing off on the Trumpest 'chinaflu' bullshit, but at the same time "Let's all gather in large crowds from countries all across the globe in China while we all still deal with the fall out of a pandemic that started...in China..." just seems like maybe the worst idea ever.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:41 am

Ireland has never won a medal at the Winter Olympics but we did quite well in the Summer Olympics last year so who knows maybe this will be the one.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:43 am

Zimbabwe isn't likely to win any medals this go around.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:44 am

Rusozak wrote:They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.


Speaking as somebody who believed that they should have postponed the Tokyo Olympics a second time + postponed these ones, I suppose I can understand why the IOC and the host committee both want to go forward with this one - they deemed it safe enough to host the Tokyo Olympics at a time when the city was under a state of emergency so I suppose they're deeming it safe to host in Beijing.

Not to mention that China's strict COVID-19 policies and strategies are being implemented at the Olympic Games too and at this point in time, China is probably the safest country to host an event like this in because they're managing a largely successful pandemic response while other countries are being overwhelmed by Omicron. If anything, the most relevant argument for cancelling the Olympics right now would to be to keep potentially infected people from traveling to the country for this event. But their safeguards and strict quarantining + hospital treatment measures seem to be working and they believe they will work at the Olympics as well.

New Lizhou wrote:As a Hongkonger, I still fail to understand how hosting the olympics, even without foreign tourists, is compatible with the “zero-covid” policy.


Hold the participants of the Olympics to the same strict COVID policies and standards that Chinese citizens are held to, from reading their documents outlining their COVID-19 policies and strategies for the Olympics. Mainly, as well, they're implementing what they're calling the "closed loop system" where participants of the Games will be restricted in their movements and interactions with the domestic population, to minimise the potential for COVID spread.

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Shigastan wrote:Did any of you go to Beijing to watch the Olympics in 2008?
Fourteen years ago I was still in elementary school. I can only watch the game on TV.

It was 2008. For all we knew back then, people could've been walking into the next Tiananmen Square Massacre. Going there for the Olympics in person would've seemed suicidal.

This time around it seems like a relatively less suicidal deal with the same devil, though yeah there's still the aspect of walking into a superspreader event in the country that caused this new disease in the first place. Still feels like a dance on the graves of the disease's victims that China still gets to host it, let alone that athletes intend on participating.

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Reploid Productions wrote:That's my thought. You could not PAY me enough money to attend an international Omicron super-spreader event like that!

In China...I mean, I'm not signing off on the Trumpest 'chinaflu' bullshit, but at the same time "Let's all gather in large crowds from countries all across the globe in China while we all still deal with the fall out of a pandemic that started...in China..." just seems like maybe the worst idea ever.


Still find it weird that people place such emphasis on China for "causing COVID-19." Viruses don't choose where they start. Did the United States get sanctioned and punished because the Spanish Flu originated in Kansas? It wouldn't make sense to revoke China's hosting of the Games - something that was decided long before the pandemic - because of something like this happening.

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:And yet, there is another part of me that half feels compelled to say "oh well... I guess if you weren't going to boycott the Olympics anyway you might as well check out the Summer Palace while you're there..."


My understanding is that - similarly to Tokyo last year - athletes and participants will have their movements restricted to venues and accommodations related to the Games and will not be allowed to freely travel and engage in tourism.
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Postby GuessTheAltAccount » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:30 am

Kannap wrote:
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:It was 2008. For all we knew back then, people could've been walking into the next Tiananmen Square Massacre. Going there for the Olympics in person would've seemed suicidal.

This time around it seems like a relatively less suicidal deal with the same devil, though yeah there's still the aspect of walking into a superspreader event in the country that caused this new disease in the first place. Still feels like a dance on the graves of the disease's victims that China still gets to host it, let alone that athletes intend on participating.

Cannot think of a name wrote:In China...I mean, I'm not signing off on the Trumpest 'chinaflu' bullshit, but at the same time "Let's all gather in large crowds from countries all across the globe in China while we all still deal with the fall out of a pandemic that started...in China..." just seems like maybe the worst idea ever.


Still find it weird that people place such emphasis on China for "causing COVID-19." Viruses don't choose where they start. Did the United States get sanctioned and punished because the Spanish Flu originated in Kansas? It wouldn't make sense to revoke China's hosting of the Games - something that was decided long before the pandemic - because of something like this happening.

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:And yet, there is another part of me that half feels compelled to say "oh well... I guess if you weren't going to boycott the Olympics anyway you might as well check out the Summer Palace while you're there..."


My understanding is that - similarly to Tokyo last year - athletes and participants will have their movements restricted to venues and accommodations related to the Games and will not be allowed to freely travel and engage in tourism.

Assuming China does a better job enforcing it than they do with smoking bans.

Viruses don't choose where they start, but people choose whether or not to create new diseases by deciding what to do about their countries' wildlife trades (and/or unsafe labs), or if they don't act on that, what to do with those warning the world about the new diseases created by the wildlife trades (and/or unsafe labs). A country like China mixes the worst of poor food safety with the worst of poor transparency, hence bringing us two of the most contagious new diseases of the 21st century.

As for Kansas Flu, isn't there still dispute over a century later as to the origins of that disease? But whatever other new diseases come out of the USA we'll hear about with a lot more time to prepare, as at least Americans have the right to freedom of speech.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:54 am

Kannap wrote:
Rusozak wrote:They're still doing this? Seems like a shit time to be doing any kind of mass gathering.


Speaking as somebody who believed that they should have postponed the Tokyo Olympics a second time + postponed these ones, I suppose I can understand why the IOC and the host committee both want to go forward with this one - they deemed it safe enough to host the Tokyo Olympics at a time when the city was under a state of emergency so I suppose they're deeming it safe to host in Beijing.

Not to mention that China's strict COVID-19 policies and strategies are being implemented at the Olympic Games too and at this point in time, China is probably the safest country to host an event like this in because they're managing a largely successful pandemic response while other countries are being overwhelmed by Omicron. If anything, the most relevant argument for cancelling the Olympics right now would to be to keep potentially infected people from traveling to the country for this event. But their safeguards and strict quarantining + hospital treatment measures seem to be working and they believe they will work at the Olympics as well.

New Lizhou wrote:As a Hongkonger, I still fail to understand how hosting the olympics, even without foreign tourists, is compatible with the “zero-covid” policy.


Hold the participants of the Olympics to the same strict COVID policies and standards that Chinese citizens are held to, from reading their documents outlining their COVID-19 policies and strategies for the Olympics. Mainly, as well, they're implementing what they're calling the "closed loop system" where participants of the Games will be restricted in their movements and interactions with the domestic population, to minimise the potential for COVID spread.

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:It was 2008. For all we knew back then, people could've been walking into the next Tiananmen Square Massacre. Going there for the Olympics in person would've seemed suicidal.

This time around it seems like a relatively less suicidal deal with the same devil, though yeah there's still the aspect of walking into a superspreader event in the country that caused this new disease in the first place. Still feels like a dance on the graves of the disease's victims that China still gets to host it, let alone that athletes intend on participating.

Cannot think of a name wrote:In China...I mean, I'm not signing off on the Trumpest 'chinaflu' bullshit, but at the same time "Let's all gather in large crowds from countries all across the globe in China while we all still deal with the fall out of a pandemic that started...in China..." just seems like maybe the worst idea ever.


Still find it weird that people place such emphasis on China for "causing COVID-19." Viruses don't choose where they start. Did the United States get sanctioned and punished because the Spanish Flu originated in Kansas? It wouldn't make sense to revoke China's hosting of the Games - something that was decided long before the pandemic - because of something like this happening.

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:And yet, there is another part of me that half feels compelled to say "oh well... I guess if you weren't going to boycott the Olympics anyway you might as well check out the Summer Palace while you're there..."


My understanding is that - similarly to Tokyo last year - athletes and participants will have their movements restricted to venues and accommodations related to the Games and will not be allowed to freely travel and engage in tourism.

That's cool and all, reach that arm back and give yourself a pat for it. But I wasn't talking about a new disease, I was talking about the one that's still going. And yeah, if I was in the middle of the influenza pandemic I wouldn't be crazy eager to gather a whole lot of people from all over the world into Kansas and then put those people back on planes and send them back out around the world. Ya know, 'cause we haven't contained it yet. Even if the plans were made before influenza, because that makes no fucking difference.
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