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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:40 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nah. Just direct the DOJ to arrest those suspected of sedition and seize their assets as a part of an investigation.


The new German government isn’t a fan of China either, they’ll most likely side with us on this. So with their support we can threaten the rest of the companies that if they side with China they will be blocked in the US, NATO, and EU nations.

I think you greatly overestimate the power of the executive branch.

Who exactly is going to pitch a fit? Chinese sympathizers? Time for red scare 2.0
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:42 pm

I wouldn’t trust the Chinese Communist Party to brew me a cup of coffee, let alone decide what the world should think of Lithuania
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Nationlization...
By which country?

The USA. Forcibly nationalize their companies and send the CEOs to jail for sedition

Do you think,
The USA,
The country,
Which,
Lets,
Billionaires not pay taxes,
and instead let them go to space for their own fun,
and doesn't care about if China is genociding people,
will nationalize Apple?
Also sedition is a dumb law which basically says "You cannot insult the government, it's a crime".
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:56 pm

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The USA. Forcibly nationalize their companies and send the CEOs to jail for sedition

Do you think,
The USA,
The country,
Which,
Lets,
Billionaires not pay taxes,
and instead let them go to space for their own fun,
and doesn't care about if China is genociding people,
will nationalize Apple?

I never said that the US would do it or will do it. I said the US should do it.

Also sedition is a dumb law which basically says "You cannot insult the government, it's a crime".

Exactly why I like it
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Postby Existential Cats » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:58 pm

Lithuania should rename the Taiwan office "Republic of China Office" and rename their Chinese Embassy "Embassy of the Chinese Communist Party."
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I think you greatly overestimate the power of the executive branch.

Who exactly is going to pitch a fit? Chinese sympathizers? Time for red scare 2.0

Or folks who like the rule of law.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:09 pm

I've looked over the geopolitical situation for the entire world as it is presently. It is perhaps the case that China is the closest equivalent the real world has to the Galactic Empire of Star Wars. Love or hate China, they appear to be the single most powerful anti-democratic and authoritarian faction that exists out there. Plus China routinely breaks human rights to enough of an extent that I can see they'd have more in common with the Imperials from fiction.

If there were a way to implant explosives into prisoners' heads that explode if they try to escape outside the boundaries of their prison, it'd be China that'd be willing to attempt that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:17 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Who exactly is going to pitch a fit? Chinese sympathizers? Time for red scare 2.0

Or folks who like the rule of law.

That sounds like Chinese sympathizer talk Ethel. Wouldn’t want you to be dragged in front of HUAC for your crimes
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Postby Lady Victory » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
They will tell apple that if they want to sell in China they must not sell in Lithuania.

Then we should threaten Apple and others with immediate nationalization and state that we will charge their CEOs with sedition if they bow to China


Based. Let's do it.

Existential Cats wrote:Lithuania should rename the Taiwan office "Republic of China Office" and rename their Chinese Embassy "Embassy of the Chinese Communist Party."


Also based. Let's do this as well.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Or folks who like the rule of law.

That sounds like Chinese sympathizer talk Ethel. Wouldn’t want you to be dragged in front of HUAC for your crimes
Most spies and would be "traitors" usually evade taxes, as they don't want to declare their shady foreign transactions.

Ethel needs to stop reporting taxes, and start getting folks to send them sinister payments from HK and Mainland China.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:31 pm

Why European Allies want to provoke an alliance between Russia and China? They themselves should be focused in their own sphere of influence.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:42 pm

The Chinese insistence on considering Taiwan to be a part of their “internal affairs” is getting tedious and annoying.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:50 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:Why European Allies want to provoke an alliance between Russia and China? They themselves should be focused in their own sphere of influence.
Maybe because the PRC's neighbors don't agree that the PRC is entitled to represent all of Asia, and the US and the EU is not about to abandon its allies in the region that date from the end of second world war, just to soothe the PRC's feelings.

Russia also won't really ally with the PRC because of the PRC's major territorial claims against Russia, and Russia isn't very happy with the PRC claiming the Arctic as well and trying to push itself in as a near-Arctic state.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:58 pm

Nordcastle wrote:I hope it wont end bad for lithuania. It is a small country compared to China but it has the help of the EU


the EU would throw lithuania under the bus in a heartbeat
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:00 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Nordcastle wrote:I hope it wont end bad for lithuania. It is a small country compared to China but it has the help of the EU


the EU would throw lithuania under the bus in a heartbeat

Maybe not. The new German government is actually pretty anti-CCP
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
the EU would throw lithuania under the bus in a heartbeat

Maybe not. The new German government is actually pretty anti-CCP


You mean they’re both anti-Putin and anti-CCP? Talk about being based.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:09 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe not. The new German government is actually pretty anti-CCP


You mean they’re both anti-Putin and anti-CCP? Talk about being based.

Yes. The new foreign minister is very much against Putin and the CCP.
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Postby The Aber » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 pm

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The Aber wrote:I mean, they are a leftist country founded on leftist principles. Me being someone who knows that the Kim Dynasty of North Korea would go as far as to threaten people with nukes for something as childish as being called a "crazy fat kid", I wouldn't be surprised on how low China's ' people's republic ' could go.

lol what? the PRC isn't a leftist country

founded on leftist principles? sure. but the modern PRC (as well as north korea) is a de facto fascist empire


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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:14 pm

Oh boy are we having the whole red scare discussion again?

Someone give Duvniask a call and see what an actual socialist thinks about the PRC.
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Postby The Aber » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:19 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Oh boy are we having the whole red scare discussion again?

Someone give Duvniask a call and see what an actual socialist thinks about the PRC.


Oh, no need. We actually have an understanding of what an actual socialist thinks about the PRC. Some time in leftist Twitter and Reddit can do that. And most of them say the exact same thing.
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:25 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:The Chinese insistence on considering Taiwan to be a part of their “internal affairs” is getting tedious and annoying.

> 'Hey, could you perhaps not do that?'
> "Who are you to interfere with our sovereignity?"

That is basically where we are at now.
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Postby Page » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:28 pm

The Aber wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Oh boy are we having the whole red scare discussion again?

Someone give Duvniask a call and see what an actual socialist thinks about the PRC.


Oh, no need. We actually have an understanding of what an actual socialist thinks about the PRC. Some time in leftist Twitter and Reddit can do that. And most of them say the exact same thing.


Are we really going to question the socialism of a country with the fastest growing number of billionaires where an epidemic of workplace suicide due to lethally long shifts in degrading, totalitarian conditions for pennies by the hour is not remedied by wage increases and reduced hours but only by the installation of nets? What's next, doubting Ru Paul's heterosexuality? Contending that Gary Busey is not in fact the sexiest man alive? Alleging that dogs don't properly chew their food?
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:46 am

If the countries of Lithuania and Taiwan want to establish ties, the country of the PRC has no business nosing into their private affairs.
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Postby -Astoria- » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:57 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:If the countries of Lithuania and Taiwan want to establish ties, the country of the PRC has no business nosing into their private affairs.

But don't you know that Taiwan is the PRC? It'd be like opening diplomatic relations with Guam! /s
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