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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:11 am

Wumaohar wrote:
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True, much of the people of Sutenland, unlike Taiwan actually did support the annexation. So when annexing territory by force even when it has a real degree of popular support is bad, it is even worse when it has basically none.

So you are right, Germany actually had better justification…

Most people in Taiwan do not support reunification since, yknow, the KMT mass murdered communists and Chinese nationalists and for several decades have been propagating anti-PRC messages to its whole population. While I support the reunification of China Im not an idiot and think it would be seamless or that the Taiwanese people currently want reunification. Hence why again, I hope for it to be peaceful


Umm the KMT has been out of power for a while now. Again what decade do you think it is?
The vast majority were born after 1947…

The problem is you and the PRC are seemingly living in the past.

The majority of people, especially the young (the fact that those born AFTER KMT one party rule ended shows your claim utterly false) do not want to be part of the PRC not because of that. They have a high level freedom of speech and press and a largely open internet (things that do not exist in the PRC). If what you say is true, why has support for “reunification” been in drastic decline since the KMT lost its monopoly on power? :eyebrow:

Actually the KMT, and it’s overwhelming older and rapidly declining support base are the most friendly to the PRC!

The majority read multiple sources including the PRC’s and KMT’s (ironically pro PRC) propaganda.

They read it, but reject it. Because they are better off as they are, and not under Xi’s corrupt and brutal rule.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:12 am

Sure, China is operating in its neighbourhood while the US is reaching quite a bit to get there, but have you considered the little detail that the very much independent minor powers of the region actually want the Americans to be there, quite unlike how they feel about the Chinese?

I mean, remember that little scrap of paper, the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration? How’d that turn out for the people concerned? If a country acts in a manner that signals that agreements with that country aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, maybe it’s not all that surprising when that country starts being viewed with suspicion and hostility in the international stage.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:08 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Sure, China is operating in its neighbourhood while the US is reaching quite a bit to get there, but have you considered the little detail that the very much independent minor powers of the region actually want the Americans to be there, quite unlike how they feel about the Chinese?

I mean, remember that little scrap of paper, the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration? How’d that turn out for the people concerned? If a country acts in a manner that signals that agreements with that country aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, maybe it’s not all that surprising when that country starts being viewed with suspicion and hostility in the international stage.

Let's be honest if it wasn't for the cheap labor China would have been cut of from the world in 1989 after there little Protest putting down in Tenemien Square.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:50 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Sure, China is operating in its neighbourhood while the US is reaching quite a bit to get there, but have you considered the little detail that the very much independent minor powers of the region actually want the Americans to be there, quite unlike how they feel about the Chinese?

I mean, remember that little scrap of paper, the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration? How’d that turn out for the people concerned? If a country acts in a manner that signals that agreements with that country aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, maybe it’s not all that surprising when that country starts being viewed with suspicion and hostility in the international stage.

Let's be honest if it wasn't for the cheap labor China would have been cut of from the world in 1989 after there little Protest putting down in Tenemien Square.


they would not have been. the certain powers always had a geostrategic interest in advancing China at the expense of the Soviet Union. Once the USSR fell, then came the desire to make China the world's largest consumer market.

cheap labor has mattered little because we have the rest of the third world to make textiles and lead-painted toys
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Postby Utquiagvik » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:18 am

Were probably just going to end up in another major world conflict from all of this.
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:41 pm

Utquiagvik wrote:Were probably just going to end up in another major world conflict from all of this.

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Postby FutureAmerica » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:20 pm

It's more likely that the Chinese Communist Party ends up in the garbage bin of history, just like the NAZI Party.

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:21 pm

FutureAmerica wrote:It's more likely that the Chinese Communist Party ends up in the garbage bin of history, just like the NAZI Party.

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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:25 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
FutureAmerica wrote:It's more likely that the Chinese Communist Party ends up in the garbage bin of history, just like the NAZI Party.

Xi Jinping will liberate the world.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:47 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
FutureAmerica wrote:It's more likely that the Chinese Communist Party ends up in the garbage bin of history, just like the NAZI Party.

Xi Jinping will liberate the world.

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Postby Arpasia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:50 pm

Also, there was that building that Taiwan built on Saint Kitts and Nevis, yet China did nothing against them and Saint Vincent, despite them doing stuff towards Lithuania.
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