China threatens to send Lithuania to garbage bin of history

[Big Jim P]

Based Lithuania. More countries need to stop sucking the teat of cheap Chinese labour and stand up to the communist rebels and what they call a government.

China can easily be defeated without firing a single shot. an international embargo would cripple the economy.

Would also cripple the world economy.

Really well thought out plan there, chief.

China doesn't make anything we can't make ourselves.

[Duvniask]

Would also cripple the world economy.

Really well thought out plan there, chief.

Might actually force corporations to source and manufacture their goods in a fashion that's economically sustainable. Might even help all the businesses that struggle or are on the verge of losing out to cheap Chinese labour. "Chief"

Would also cripple the world economy.

Really well thought out plan there, chief.

China doesn't make anything we can't make ourselves.

Unless you guys are so delusional you think you can spontaneously make all those industries appear out of thin air, an embargo of China is going to cripple the world economy by cutting off the world's largest manufacturing economy and supplier of innumerable raw materials. And if the past months of supply shortages have shown us anything, it's that Americans want their trinkets, and they want 'em cheap and in mass.

[Duvniask]

Would also cripple the world economy.

Really well thought out plan there, chief.

If the past two years have taught us anything, it's that continued trade and travel with China can "cripple the world economy" too.

Pointless statement. Trade with China continued throughout this period. It had to.

[South Reinkalistan]

china becomes a rising power that the "international community" (read: the west) hopes will liberalise in the face of deng xiaoping's reforms
china shows it is not particularly interested in liberalising
china is also now integrated as a cornerstone of the world economy
smaller nations (i.e. lithuania) cast into china's orbit are forced to kowtow to its demands
the economically illiterate throw a shitfit about the growth of china and begin to cope with notions like "oh just stop trading with china lololol" <---- YOU ARE HERE
china is effectively rendered a global superpower on par with the US

[Countesia]

Might actually force corporations to source and manufacture their goods in a fashion that's economically sustainable. Might even help all the businesses that struggle or are on the verge of losing out to cheap Chinese labour. "Chief"

China doesn't make anything we can't make ourselves.

Unless you guys are so delusional you think you can spontaneously make all those industries appear out of thin air, an embargo of China is going to cripple the world economy by cutting off the world's largest manufacturing economy and supplier of innumerable raw materials. And if the past months of supply shortages have shown us anything, it's that Americans want their trinkets, and they want 'em cheap and in mass.

No delusion. Things would have to get worse before they got better. But you've crippled an up and coming superpower governed by totalitarian regime.

[Arcturus Novus]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3163163/lithuanians-overwhelmingly-oppose-vilnius-policy-china-poll

>inb4 cucked beijing-run xi media -100000 social credit etc. etc.

A December poll shows that only 13% of the Lithuanian population has a positive view of Vilnius’ decision to recognize Taiwan and balk the One China policy officially espoused by the EU.

[Stellar Colonies]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3163163/lithuanians-overwhelmingly-oppose-vilnius-policy-china-poll

>inb4 cucked beijing-run xi media -100000 social credit etc. etc.

A December poll shows that only 13% of the Lithuanian population has a positive view of Vilnius’ decision to recognize Taiwan and balk the One China policy officially espoused by the EU.

This reminds me of how annoying it is for a news article to not provide a direct source for their information.

[New haven america]

Would also cripple the world economy.

Really well thought out plan there, chief.

China doesn't make anything we can't make ourselves.

And yet Reagan sold almost all of our manufacturing industry to China and businesses today are still encouraged to outsource their labor to China for cheaper labor.

Hm...

[Arpasia]

Why didn't China also did the same thing to St. Vincent and the Grenadines?

[-Azteca Mexico]

Why didn't China also did the same thing to St. Vincent and the Grenadines?

Probably because Lithuania is a bigger country and has more influence.

[Sungoldy-China]

Capitalists would rather make in Vietnam than in the United States,

Manufacturing won't come back to the U.S. until the U.S. bombs all other countries

[Novus America]

Capitalists would rather make in Vietnam than in the United States,

Manufacturing won't come back to the U.S. until the U.S. bombs all other countries

First of all the US is still the second largest manufacturer by far.
And our trade to GDP ratio is only 29%.
The idea that the US has no manufacturing or cannot make anything is patently false.

Now sure the US has significantly lost manufacturing, but there was still a ton to start with and a lot still survives.

So the US can absolutely reclaim some manufacturing that was lost, particularly for our domestic market even if we might not fully compete on everything in terms of exports,

Yes some will go to Vietnam, probably more to Mexico, but other places too, if, as we should we steadily increase tariffs on the PRC with no upper limit such as to phase out imports from the PRC

But that is fine. It still makes it more stable, diversified and less a national security threat as a result.

Vietnam does not and cannot use their trade with us a significant leverage. And they are actually on very good terms with us overall. So some of it moving away from the PRC to Vietnam still is an absolute win.

Maybe we should buy more from Lithuania… point is we do not need the PRC, nobody does.

Transitioning away and undoing some 30 decades of damage is not going to be easy or painless. But it it short term pain more than worth the long term gain.

[Belshekistan]

I have nothing to add here that hasn't been said already but being "swept into the garbage bin of history" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard come out of a serious government official's mouth.

[Perikuresu]

I have nothing to add here that hasn't been said already but being "swept into the garbage bin of history" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard come out of a serious government official's mouth.

especially for a nation as minor as Lithuania

[Arpasia]

Why didn't China also did the same thing to St. Vincent and the Grenadines?

Probably because Lithuania is a bigger country and has more influence.

I mean, Saint Vincent is the smallest member of the UN security council, though.

[Perikuresu]

Probably because Lithuania is a bigger country and has more influence.

I mean, Saint Vincent is the smallest member of the UN security council, though.

The UNSC position is a temporary position though

[Wumaohar]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

[Arvenia]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

Would you also support the Chinese democracy movement?

[Wumaohar]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

Would you also support the Chinese democracy movement?

That was the one in the late 80's, no? If so they were an odd mix of liberals and Maoists who were worried about the opening up of China. Given how the reforms went, no

[-Astoria-]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

How can one "reunite" with something that they never controlled in the first place?

[Novus America]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

“Re-uniting” against the will of the people in the area you are annexing is straight imperialism.
As such you are advocating imperialism.

And why does the PRC only get that “right”?

Is the US entitled to invade the Philippines and Canada, or Germany, Poland or Austria? Or Japan, Korea (and Taiwan ironically enough). Sure the current Federal Republic of Germany never controlled Austria, and the US government never did Canada. But neither did the PRC ever control Taiwan.

The US as as much claim to Canada and Germany to Austria as the PRC does Taiwan.

Remember how last time the whole “reunite” the nation craze turned out?
There was some 70 million people dead.

Maybe not advocate causing WWIII?

[Wumaohar]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

How can one "reunite" with something that they never controlled in the first place?

Because the KMT lost the Civil War and Taiwan is a breakaway province

[Port Caverton]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

Least imperialist Marxist-leninist

[Wumaohar]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

“Re-uniting” against the will of the people in the area you are annexing is straight imperialism.
As such you are advocating imperialism.

And why does the PRC only get that “right”?

Is the US entitled to invade the Philippines and Canada, or Germany, Poland or Austria? Or Japan, Korea (and Taiwan ironically enough). Sure the current Federal Republic of Germany never controlled Austria, and the US government never did Canada. But neither did the PRC ever control Taiwan.

The US as as much claim to Canada and Germany to Austria as the PRC does Taiwan.

Remember how last time the whole “reunite” the nation craze turned out?
There was some 70 million people dead.

Maybe not advocate causing WWIII?

Thats not what imperialism is. Taiwan is part of China and its people have been held hostage from rejoining the mainland.

[Wumaohar]

They refer to the government of Lithuania but yes, I fully support China in their mission to reunite their nation

Least imperialist Marxist-leninist

I hope for a peaceful reunifcation above all things, as does the PRC