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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Sorry, why would any of the things you mentioned happen? China taking military action against Lithuania is as outlandish as China landing on the moon and revealing to the world it's made of cheese. Sanctions and blockades are not remotely the same thing, by the way. For a start, one is an act of war. As for what China can do, it's stated in the OP - "the country is bracing for a corporate boycott after China told multinationals to sever ties with Lithuania or risk being shut out of the lucrative Chinese market, Reuters reported in December."

It says alot that the PRC is threatened by such a tiny country.

It's deterrence. If they allowed Lithuania to get away with it, there's a possibility that other countries could also disregard Chinese sovereignty. Which Lithuania did in the first place to incur China's wrath anyway. China doesn't necessarily have to feel "threatened" (and why would it?) to respond to another country taking a hostile action against them.
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Postby Sonakion » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:15 pm

Hopefully other nations will follow Lithuania's example instead of leaving Lithuania to face China on there own.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:16 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Xi is bat crap crazy.

First, China is not Xi Jinping. Second, what about this is "bat crap crazy"?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:16 pm

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Genivaria wrote:It says alot that the PRC is threatened by such a tiny country.


Less so threatened and more disrespected. A country isn't going to get scared that another country is supporting their insurgent problem, unless said country is very powerful.

But what they will see is an obvious demonstration of diplomatic disrespect.

*disrepect* in having foreign relations with another country, because the PRC feels entitled to tell other countries what foreign policy they can have with other nations.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:19 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It says alot that the PRC is threatened by such a tiny country.

It's deterrence. If they allowed Lithuania to get away with it, there's a possibility that other countries could also disregard Chinese sovereignty. Which Lithuania did in the first place to incur China's wrath anyway. China doesn't necessarily have to feel "threatened" (and why would it?) to respond to another country taking a hostile action against them.

That's just "feeling threatened" with extra steps.

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:41 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It says alot that the PRC is threatened by such a tiny country.

It's deterrence. If they allowed Lithuania to get away with it, there's a possibility that other countries could also disregard Chinese sovereignty. Which Lithuania did in the first place to incur China's wrath anyway. China doesn't necessarily have to feel "threatened" (and why would it?) to respond to another country taking a hostile action against them.


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Remember what happened last time we let a fascist dictatorship host the Olympics?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:17 pm

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Remember what happened last time we let a fascist dictatorship host the Olympics?

Nothing?

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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:19 pm

Vikanias wrote:The VIRGIN PRC vs the CHAD Lithuania

Lithuania: *Formally recognises Taiwan*
PRC: We are distancing ourselves from you, since you support the fake China!
Lithuania: Ok then, I'll just support Taiwan more to get the same Chinese products and relations.
PRC: NOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST SUPPORT THEM YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THE REAL CHINA!!1!!1!
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When a small Baltic nation stands up to China firmer than most first world countries :blink:
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Postby Vikanias » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:23 pm

Ifreann wrote:
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Remember what happened last time we let a fascist dictatorship host the Olympics?

Nothing?


The Berlin Olympic Games of 1936, and three years later we get WWII. So technically the Beijing Olympic Games of 2022 will show that in 2025 WWIII will happen.
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Postby FNU » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:24 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Sorry, why would any of the things you mentioned happen? China taking military action against Lithuania is as outlandish as China landing on the moon and revealing to the world it's made of cheese. Sanctions and blockades are not remotely the same thing, by the way. For a start, one is an act of war. As for what China can do, it's stated in the OP - "the country is bracing for a corporate boycott after China told multinationals to sever ties with Lithuania or risk being shut out of the lucrative Chinese market, Reuters reported in December."

Being shut out of the Chinese market isn't a death sentence for Lithuania. Will it have an effect? Quite likely, but it ultimately won't be enough to deter Lithuania. Everything I said is more exaggerated speculation then anything, that I admit, however it was making the point of "regardless of what China may do, they're not going to bother some small Baltic nation."
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Postby Vikanias » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:24 pm

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:
Vikanias wrote:The VIRGIN PRC vs the CHAD Lithuania

Lithuania: *Formally recognises Taiwan*
PRC: We are distancing ourselves from you, since you support the game China!
Lithuania: Ok then, I'll just support Taiwan more to get the same Chinese products and relations.
PRC: NOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST SUPPORT THEM YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THE REAL CHINA!!1!!1!


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Postby FNU » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Remember what happened last time we let a fascist dictatorship host the Olympics?

Nothing?

We did get the torch run. Perhaps a soup eating competition?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:28 pm

Vikanias wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing?


The Berlin Olympic Games of 1936, and three years later we get WWII. So technically the Beijing Olympic Games of 2022 will show that in 2025 WWIII will happen.

I don't think the World War was related to the Olympics. And I don't think that was the last time that a fascist dictatorship hosted the Olympics.

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Postby Novos Zazprogidamos » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:34 pm

It is pretty standard diplomatic bluster on China's part, which isn't an indication they feel particularly threatened. I remember the US secretary of state under the trump administration making similar threats in response to something Venezuela did with regards to accepting weapons from russia. The most that will come from this is the PRC propaganda machine attempting to convince Lithuanians that their leadership are sinophobic, corrupt, war-mongering puppets of foreign powers.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:39 pm

The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:When a small Baltic nation stands up to China firmer than most first world countries :blink:
They are in denial mode still and want to pretend everything is salvageable and everything is fine.

They don't understand that nationalist revanchism is what drives the CCP at this point, and that to them westerners are just pests to them to be removed to make way for China's hegemony over Asia, and if possible, the world as well. Taiwan is their starting point, but it doesn't end there.

With their South China Sea claims, China wants domination of the sea routes and to have control over all the oil and gas resources of the region. They fabricate revanchist claims in order to argue it is all theirs on basis of nationalism, but the CCP are doing it to expand the personal wealth of the party elite and increase their natural resources for the future.

Realistically the only way to prevent war is to make it clear to Bejing that its dreams are pipe dreams and have no hope of coming true. If western nations fail to do so and follow the denialist route as many want to do for profits in China, then war is guaranteed, as the CCP will consider itself empowered and unlikely to encounter resistance. It is going to take small nations like Lithuania, and Taiwan naturally, to shame larger nations into action, and to make sure the denialists are never comfortable in their isolationism.
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Postby Daulise » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:43 pm

Good thing Lithuania's in the EU. That should help them prepare for the impending cutoff of economic support from PRC's many businesses. As such, I predict that while there will be an economic impact from the lack of PRC-based enterprises, It'll not be large enough to severely hurt the Lithuanian economy.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:46 pm

FNU wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Lithuania has indicated its complete disregard for China's sovereignty with its actions. Why should China not retaliate?

My question to you is what the hell can China do to Lithuania? They can't exactly go marching troops through Kazakhstan, Russia, and Belarus without meeting some level of pushback. Economic sanctioning or blockading doesn't make any sense on the Chinese behalf, considering that they'd have a hell of a time maintaining a blockading fleet in the Baltic, and that Lithuania isn't exactly economically reliant on China. If they fly aircraft over Lithuania that would just annoy any nearby neighbors (i.e. Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, possibly Poland). All they can do is angrily wave their fist and maybe ask Russia to find a way to slap Lithuania's wrist.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:48 pm

Vikanias wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing?


The Berlin Olympic Games of 1936, and three years later we get WWII. So technically the Beijing Olympic Games of 2022 will show that in 2025 WWIII will happen.

The 36 games gave the world a positive impression of nazi Germany. It was a propaganda coup for the Germans.
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Postby Fiorina-Fury 161 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:53 pm

Vikanias wrote:The VIRGIN PRC vs the CHAD Lithuania


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